Darrelle Revis or Nnamdi Asomugha

[DarcSkies777]

So because people threw Revis' way and all he did all season was make plays and dominate that's way he's not better than Asomugha, nigga please. T

Hey, Im not getting in an argument with you cuz this is really apples and oranges. YOu cant go wrong with either.

All I'm saying is who you want to be in a fight with? The guy who people WILL throw a punch at but he'll knock them out 9/10 times. Or the guy who people are so intimidated by people dont even bother lifting a hand to him in the first place cuz they already know what's gonna happen if they do? YOu cant go wrong with either choice. But amma go with the dude so feared they dont even bother.

 

[allied]

So let me get this straight it is Asomugha's fault that the Raiders defense is not as good as the Jet's defense? Revis has done it for 1 year if he can have the same dominance next year than yeah he can be mentioned with Asomugha...but until then. Asomugha>Revis>Woodson>any other QB in the league......

Maybe I'm overatting the Raiders defense but I never thought a cornerback could never be thrown on. Unless your name is Deion.

 

[maximus preme]

Maybe I'm overatting the Raiders defense but I never thought a cornerback could never be thrown on. Unless your name is Deion.

Nah no one throws at Nnamdi. There was Asomugha Isle before there was Revis Isle. That's why I said its hard to look at high lights and say who is better. The only way to truly do it would be to have the coaches film. Which I would love to have access to btw because I am a football nut. I hate how broadcast never really show what the defense is doing.

 

[damon03]

this is why high lights don't really show you what is going on. You need to see the coaches film to really be able to see how well someone is doing in coverage. If someone is locking down someone in coverage you aren't going to see it because the ball is not going to be thrown there so the camera wont follow them. So it is hard to compare just going of what you see in the broadcast.

I agree with that. Can't hide from the coaches film

 

[blakfyahking]

That's what I'm saying....Nnamdi been doing it for a minute...not knocking Revis but people don't even test Nnamdi.....AT ALL...in 2007 dude was thrown at less than any Corner in the last 10 years....2008 QB's only threw it his way 27 times...2009 thrown at 27 times with only 13 completions...dude has Revis easy....

#1 overall is decent defense?

Nnamdi...they scared to even throw to this guy.

Revis is most likely damn good but he might be another Cromartie where he may not be as good once the defense softens up.

Nnamdi shuts you down to the point the QB dont even scan the field in his direction lol

exactly...the raiders old d-line never puts pressure on the other teams qb...plus the other raiders db's are garbage so na basically has to hold it down by himself.

Dude he has the highlights cuz people actually....THREW TOWARDS HIM lol

Tell me when Revis gets to..."THEY DONT EVEN BOTHER TO THROW HIS WAY" status.

this is why high lights don't really show you what is going on. You need to see the coaches film to really be able to see how well someone is doing in coverage. If someone is locking down someone in coverage you aren't going to see it because the ball is not going to be thrown there so the camera wont follow them. So it is hard to compare just going of what you see in the broadcast.

right now I don't even see how a mofo who knows anything about football could dare pick Revis over Asomugha

Like I said, Nnamdi is a SECONDARY all by himself, not just a cornerback......he locks down a whole side of his field LOL

 

[Chef_Taylor]

right now I don't even see how a mofo who knows anything about football could dare pick Revis over Asomugha

Like I said, Nnamdi is a SECONDARY all by himself, not just a cornerback......he locks down a whole side of his field LOL

i stated that other than asomugha...the raiders db's ae garbage,average at best

asomgha>>>>>>>>>>>>revis. n.a. been shutting wideouts down revis just had a break through year last year but for bout the past 3 years n.a. was and still is the best db in the nfl.

 

[damon03]

No diss to Wills but linebackers are alot easier to find than cornerbacks with the skill of Revis and Asomugha. And the league is set up to throw the ball down the field so when you find elite cornbacks you have to hold on to them.

True. But your front 7 is more important than the secondary. Because stopping the run is what will win in the playoffs. A LB can have a greater impact than one corner. All you have to do is stop throwing the ball to his side. And his impact on the game won't be great at all

 

[lord nemesis]

I take the African. Revis is legit without question, but he's sill riding the playoff generated hype created by the likes of ESPN and NFL Network. Like when last year they had you niggas believing Larry Fitzgerald was the greatest wide receiver of all time.

 

[dnyce215]

Revis no doubt defense wins games so how many the raiders won

Ill wait.....

 

[dnyce215]

Revis no doubt defense wins games so how many the raiders won

Ill wait.....

 

[txboi_09]

I don't get the whole they don't throw his way arguement on why people are choosing nmandi. That raiders secondary is crap so of course your not gonna pick on all the crap ass DB's on the roster. He'll last year when the raiders played against the cowboys nmandi wasn't even on Miles Austin for the whole game when he was I believe Austin got him a couple of times. The way new York blitzes the entire defense at times there's no way to hide your corners especially if the blitz gets picked up. Revis is also always covering the opposing teams number one receiver so I have to take Revis

 

[socalirep]

Revis is on a better defense for example has much better players around him. How does that make Revis better? LoL

 

[socalirep]

I don't get the whole they don't throw his way arguement on why people are choosing nmandi. That raiders secondary is crap so of course your not gonna pick on all the crap ass DB's on the roster. He'll last year when the raiders played against the cowboys nmandi wasn't even on Miles Austin for the whole game when he was I believe Austin got him a couple of times. The way new York blitzes the entire defense at times there's no way to hide your corners especially if the blitz gets picked up. Revis is also always covering the opposing teams number one receiver so I have to take Revis

They put a top 10 corner @ the time D. Hall next to Asomugha and guess what? They still diidn't throw @ Asomugha and instead destroyed D. Hall so much so that the Raiders cut his ass. Don't know what the hell your talking about the blitz like its not a benefit to a CB to be on a good blitzing team. The Blitz makes the QB throw the ball faster then he would like and its probably not going to be his best throw so the CB has a better chance to INT. Asomugha players pretty much the whole game with no help @ all.

 

[ya boi g]

Revis no doubt defense wins games so how many the raiders won

Ill wait.....

Thats your argument?

 

[maximus preme]

I don't get the whole they don't throw his way arguement on why people are choosing nmandi. That raiders secondary is crap so of course your not gonna pick on all the crap ass DB's on the roster. He'll last year when the raiders played against the cowboys nmandi wasn't even on Miles Austin for the whole game when he was I believe Austin got him a couple of times. The way new York blitzes the entire defense at times there's no way to hide your corners especially if the blitz gets picked up. Revis is also always covering the opposing teams number one receiver so I have to take Revis

The all out blitzes that Rex Ryan likes to run are a double edged sword. On one side it exposes you DBs in man coverage which can lead to a big play. On the other it reduces amount of time that your corner backs have to cover because the pressure is going to get to the corner back before your DBs get beat. So it helps and hurts you at the same time. Its the gamble that they are willing to take to put a lot of pressure on the opposing offense. So while both Revis an Asomugha are in man coverage for about the same ammount of time Revis doesn't have to cover his receiver as long as Asomogha does.

 

[maximus preme]

Revis no doubt defense wins games so how many the raiders won

Ill wait.....

Also Revis is a great corner but lets get one thing clear. No one was talking about him till after Rex Ryan got there and properly utilized his talents. The Jets defense isn't great because of Revis its great because of Rex Ryan. Revis allows Ryan to do things most defenses can't do because of his superior cover skills.

 

[txboi_09]

They put a top 10 corner @ the time D. Hall next to Asomugha and guess what? They still diidn't throw @ Asomugha and instead destroyed D. Hall so much so that the Raiders cut his ass. Don't know what the hell your talking about the blitz like its not a benefit to a CB to be on a good blitzing team. The Blitz makes the QB throw the ball faster then he would like and its probably not going to be his best throw so the CB has a better chance to INT. Asomugha players pretty much the whole game with no help @ all.

Like I said all the DB's suck for the raiders that includes an overrated d. Hall whose claim to being a top ten corner at the time was "shutting down" TO when TO lit him up for over 100 yards receiving when he was with the eagles. And no shit pressure helps the secondary but my point was on the jets defense when they send like 7 or 8 players everytime when the offense picks up the blitz you can't hide a corner either he does his job or it's a big play. And dnt act like revis isn't one on one just as much as nmandi.

 

[allied]

Also Revis is a great corner but lets get one thing clear. No one was talking about him till after Rex Ryan got there and properly utilized his talents. The Jets defense isn't great because of Revis its great because of Rex Ryan. Revis allows Ryan to do things most defenses can't do because of his superior cover skills.

I disagree with that Revis was already good when Ryan got here. Rex IMO has upgraded the linebackers and his blitzing with DBs is very innovative.

 

[maximus preme]

I disagree with that Revis was already good when Ryan got here. Rex IMO has upgraded the linebackers and his blitzing with DBs is very innovative.

I didn't say Revis wasn't good before Rex got there. Rex even said it himself that when he got there he immediately realized all the possibilities that having a guy like Revis gives him. I'm just saying that the Jets defense wasn't great because Revis. It was great because of Rex Ryan. What Revis does is give them an extra dimension that most teams just don't have. The defense is better with Revis but they would be great without him as well because of Rex Ryan. They wouldn't run as much of the exotic zero blitzes they like to run but they would still be stifling because Rex would have it no other way.

 

[socalirep]

Like I said all the DB's suck for the raiders that includes an overrated d. Hall whose claim to being a top ten corner at the time was "shutting down" TO when TO lit him up for over 100 yards receiving when he was with the eagles. And no shit pressure helps the secondary but my point was on the jets defense when they send like 7 or 8 players everytime when the offense picks up the blitz you can't hide a corner either he does his job or it's a big play. And dnt act like revis isn't one on one just as much as nmandi.

Point is when the Jets send a all out blitz and leave Revis alone it doesn't matter, because Nnamadi is left by himself on a island with QB's who have more time to throw the ball. Nnamadi is still having the tougher job of having to guard WR's for a much longer time. Revis is not one on one as much as Nnamdi and that's fact. Nobody plays man coverage as much as the Raiders and when the Safetys do help it's never to Asomugha's side.