CNN's Don Lemon goes full on Coon. O’Reilly:‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture"

[Ajackson17]

Understandable, but if people really want to help, they need to understand the system, diversity, understanding, love, empathy, compassion and etc and that does not really take that much time to learn and understand. Ignorance cannot be defeated by ignorance, but only through knowledge and wisdom shall it be defeated.

 

[zombie]

You people calling Don lemon a coom kill me. What prominent black person would you rather critism come from? And please dont say jay z or any other rappers or athletes. Or would you rather a white person say it like bill o rielly did. As im understanding it, is that any black person who is considered upper class, that is not a rapper or some sort of entertainer is a coon if they criticize black ppl, but jay z and his ilk calling u all types of bitches and hoes, and glorifying murder and selling drugs in the black community (his own community btw) is okay and somehow not a coon even though he is obviously bringing negativity and is playing a direct hand in the degradation of black ppl in todays society . That whole concept is obviously backwards and its sad that some of you grown ass people really think like this.

When you criticize someone you have to have a good argument too much of don's opinion is flawed.

Exactly it was an opinion, whose opinion isnt biased or flawed, hes only human. Yall acting like he wrote a dissertation on the flaws of black ppl and presented it to the supreme court. If you feel like his opinion is wrong thats all well and dandy cuz thats your opinion, and guess what? your opinion is mostly like flawed by your own bias too. So please go back to letting chief keef and rick ross dictate how you live your life.

There are things called balanced fair and informed opinions. If you are in the position he is in you should know better than to just run your fucking mouth and i i don't listen to the childish music of chief keef or rick ross i fact i hardly listen to rap music.

Perhaps you were or are not his target audience?

i am not. His audience is the poor, the youth and the ill-educated these are groups of people who are disadvantaged and picked on. i don't agree with don lemon or his class of people. the black middle and upper class don't give a fuck about their brothers in the HOOD. The only time they speak up is when they feel embarrassed by the things that go on there.

It's how human civilization has always been...the further we move away from a close-knit society to an individualized one, the greater the magnitude of the discrepancy in wealth allocation. Education is free till high school for fuck sake and even some in college, it's still free. You want him to physically drag his target audience to sit in class?

I want him and the so called upper class blacks to stop being disingenuous in the "care" and advice they give to poorer black people. Education in america is not focused on teaching you not to liter or to pull up your fucking pants the things he's bitching about cannot be learned in school so your point about free college makes no sense.

But they begin at home nah? Who's home to teach these kids not to litter or sag? At some point we have to look within and ask questions and seek answers instead of blaming others! The system is set up already, neither you nor i can change that but you've altered it and so have i. What makes us different compared to his target audience?

Character is what makes us different and your character is created by your family and the society you live in. You are wrong we can change black society unfortunatly the people with the power and education needed for this change are not willing to do so they rather bash young people for their style of dress and bitch about the use of a word. They also lack the heart needed to help the black under class change their ways.

Let this simmer in for a little while....

And don't be naive, history has taught us that a minority few shall always rise from the doldrums and rise to the top. Your fore-people the maroons took a stand to liberate themselves from the perils of slavery yet still are alienated from the greater part of your homeland. How do go about changing a way of a group o people within a society in a foreign land? I ask with the most innocence...

The only thing most jamaican maroons complain about that sets us apart from other jamaicans these days is our need for more roads and services in our parts of jamaica. I never felt alienated nor did any of the other maroons that i know. if anything we feel used to bring more tourism to the island.

The people who have risen to the top must look back at the rest with a real desire to improve their condition with all the rich black people in america there is no excuse for black neighborhoods to be fuck up as they are. In other words the people like Don lemon and higher should fix and build not simply shit on the people.

He and the others are human, there's only so much you can do. At some point growing up, your mom/dad/loved one was fed up with you and said some hurtful things to you, doesn't mean they didn't or don't care...

I realized you said these days (take into context the society around them are same skin color, same monotone and same culture) It is very easier to accomplish this there than here. Same with my homeland, 24 million people with 70+ languages is not easy to assemble and discuss what needs to be done.

The upper class black people in america know what needs to be done they are simply to scared to do it. They do not want to risk losing their place in the america social order. IF they help and identify with black people too much they are scared that they will lose the special treatment they get from white people. IN america we have the n.a.a.c.p UPPER CLASS blacks are either part of it or support it.

fuck that, where is the organization the is solely focused on black people?

 

[Rasta.]

Understandable, but if people really want to help, they need to understand the system, diversity, understanding, love, empathy, compassion and etc and that does not really take that much time to learn and understand. Ignorance cannot be defeated by ignorance, but only through knowledge and wisdom shall it be defeated.

You don't learn and understand these things kid...

 

[Ajackson17]

Understandable, but if people really want to help, they need to understand the system, diversity, understanding, love, empathy, compassion and etc and that does not really take that much time to learn and understand. Ignorance cannot be defeated by ignorance, but only through knowledge and wisdom shall it be defeated.

You don't learn and understand these things kid...

I understand my people, situation, and giving out solutions. Now git!

 

[Rasta.]

Understandable, but if people really want to help, they need to understand the system, diversity, understanding, love, empathy, compassion and etc and that does not really take that much time to learn and understand. Ignorance cannot be defeated by ignorance, but only through knowledge and wisdom shall it be defeated.

You don't learn and understand these things kid...

I understand my people, situation, and giving out solutions. Now git!

Once again, you don't learn and understand the gibberish you spewed....

 

[Ajackson17]

Yet, many people understood what I'm saying and cosigning me. That's all you got you can't even go against me, because you know I'm correct and now you are low balling me trying to confuse a brotha. Nope, not gonna work.

As a person from looking from the inside, while I have the ability to see the inside and outside, so you are going to tell me that, I don't understand the situation? That's what foreigners do these days.

 

[Rasta.]

Yet, many people understood what I'm saying and cosigning me. That's all you got you can't even go against me, because you know I'm correct and now you are low balling me trying to confuse a brotha. Nope, not gonna work.

As a person from looking from the inside, while I have the ability to see the inside and outside, so you are going to tell me that, I don't understand the situation? That's what foreigners do these days.

Dude! really, the opinion of no-namers or no-facers pleases you? lol How does one learn and understand, have compassion, empathy? This has nothing to do with foreigners btw, learn to address your opponent or audience with subjugating others.

ps: You really cracked me up with that rhetoric tho, i can't go against you and others cosigning you lmfao....carry on brah.

 

[Ajackson17]

Another no viable solution, just pull your pants and get to looking for a job.

 

[Rasta.]

Another no viable solution, just pull your pants and get to looking for a job.

That's what you need to be preaching.....

 

[miss7deadlysinz]

CNN's Don Lemon goes full on Coon. O’Reilly:‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture"

What Black ''Culture''?. I thought there were MANY Black CULTURES. Just like when people say ''The Black Community'', as if Black People, aren't scattered across the globe. So therefore, there is MANY Black Communities

Any ho as for the comment, I'm starting to think, ''coons'' only say this B.S, just 'cause they know it's gonna get a knee jerk reaction

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2khLrF6uW1g

I wish I was smart enough to say that shit. I'd say that shit!

 

[playmaker88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2khLrF6uW1g

I wish I was smart enough to say that shit. I'd say that shit!

C'mon Ob you are getting lil crazy with those gifs

What Orielly is gonna do is gonna try to get Michael Eric Dyson on his show and try to prosper from having him on if it happens.. hes always.. inviting.. his .."Racial Hustlin ass" has always been see through

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2khLrF6uW1g

I wish I was smart enough to say that shit. I'd say that shit!

C'mon Ob you are getting lil crazy with those gifs

What Orielly is gonna do is gonna try to get Michael Eric Dyson on his show and try to prosper from having him on if it happens.. hes always.. inviting.. his .."Racial Hustlin ass" has always been see through

You think it's too much ?

 

[playmaker88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2khLrF6uW1g

I wish I was smart enough to say that shit. I'd say that shit!

C'mon Ob you are getting lil crazy with those gifs

What Orielly is gonna do is gonna try to get Michael Eric Dyson on his show and try to prosper from having him on if it happens.. hes always.. inviting.. his .."Racial Hustlin ass" has always been see through

You think it's too much ?

yeah women shouldnt be able to use gifs.. unless they take some sort of training

 

[lighthearted26]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2khLrF6uW1g

I wish I was smart enough to say that shit. I'd say that shit!

That shit made my panties wet.

Not the gif, but Michael eric dyson.

Would love to see him and o'reilly have an actual debate but im almost certain o'reilly would overtalk him the entire time.

 

[desertrain10]

ITS LIKE IF U HAVE A BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE...DO U WANT ME 2 BUST U OUT IN A CROWD AND BE LIKE , DDDDDDDAAAMMM NIGGA U GOT A BIG ASS BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE"

OR DO U WANT ME 2 PULL U 2 THE SIDE AND TELL U???

So now that you've been made aware that you have a snot boulder in your nose are you going to try and take care of the problem or focus on attacking the character of the person who "busted you out" while neglecting the booger problem?

NO, IM AM GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW AND ALSO FOR NOT BUSTIN ME OUT INFRONT OF HUNDRED/THOUSANDS OF FOLKS.. IN HOUSE PROBLEMS STAY IN HOUSE..DNT FRONT OR FLEX IN FRONT OF THE ENEMY

You're so concerned with the enemy. FUCK what they think. Unless we're devising a strategy to destroy them, FUCK what they hear. They don't give a fuck about you regardless. Their hate is already rooted deeply, even before taking into account the shit that's being discussed.

but building your whole existence on how to make "the enemy" accept you more is not caring what they think?

Who does that, or advocates that? Did you feel like Don Lemon's rant was a "do this so whites will accept you rant" or was it just his opinion?

where does his opinion come from tho. and what does how you dress have to do with whether you are deserving of basic human rights and respects. so if someone is sagging their pants or wearing hoodies, i can automatically disrespect them?

it came off to me as ways to make yourself more agreeable to whites, and my whole point is that there is nothing you can do to make yourself more agreeable to a racist

to be truly not bigoted you judge someone on their character not their appearance

Did he insinuate that one who dresses like that doesn't deserve basic rights?

His talking points are cliche and aren't well placed, which shows he may lack perspective. Those same points are often used by whites so I can see how one would suspect that he's saying "be more agreeable with whites" in an unintentionally veiled way.

If you look sloppy you'll be judged by everyone, not just whites. That doesn't mean people hate you because you sag, but they may find it distasteful to have your boxers exposed as they're halfway wedged in your cheek valley.

ITS LIKE IF U HAVE A BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE...DO U WANT ME 2 BUST U OUT IN A CROWD AND BE LIKE , DDDDDDDAAAMMM NIGGA U GOT A BIG ASS BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE"

OR DO U WANT ME 2 PULL U 2 THE SIDE AND TELL U???

So now that you've been made aware that you have a snot boulder in your nose are you going to try and take care of the problem or focus on attacking the character of the person who "busted you out" while neglecting the booger problem?

NO, IM AM GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW AND ALSO FOR NOT BUSTIN ME OUT INFRONT OF HUNDRED/THOUSANDS OF FOLKS.. IN HOUSE PROBLEMS STAY IN HOUSE..DNT FRONT OR FLEX IN FRONT OF THE ENEMY

You're so concerned with the enemy. FUCK what they think. Unless we're devising a strategy to destroy them, FUCK what they hear. They don't give a fuck about you regardless. Their hate is already rooted deeply, even before taking into account the shit that's being discussed.

but building your whole existence on how to make "the enemy" accept you more is not caring what they think?

Who does that, or advocates that? Did you feel like Don Lemon's rant was a "do this so whites will accept you rant" or was it just his opinion?

his opinion seems to be that blacks who sag their pants are the cause of all the ills in the community...

Really? I'm going to rewatch the video.

Basically with his "tough talk" lemon perpetuated long standing negative sterotypes whites have about blacks... concluding that blacks and black culture are the sole reason as to why the community is in the state that it is, and to fix our community blks essentially have to be perfect

And he did so without addressing the country’s history of institutional racism and systematic oppression

While totally ignoring the fact that the social ills he speaks of arent just a blk problem, but are rooted in poverty and economic inequality

Hence lemon now being labeled a coon

Unbeknowst to lemon and his supporters most blks including myself are hardworking, up standing people]/b]

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You've got that RIGHT! - HOWEVER what people are stating/saying isn't about you, why do so many black people have major problems with constructive criticism?? The problems within so many poor black communities are self inflicted, YET so many refuse to see the Forrest for the tree' so to speak.

Bruh

Rewatch the video

He didnt say some niggas, some of you, those niggas in the back, poor niggas etc

He was addressing the black community as a whole ....and according to him the majority of the blk community are immoral fuck ups and thug wannbes who dont know how to properly dress and thats why we are discriminated against

Which is utterly ridiculous and entirely untrue

He did try to throw in "if it doesnt apply to you than dont listen...." but doesnt change anything I said and his comments only enforces racist attitudes held by whites towards all blacks

With that said fuck him...

 

[Ioniz3dSPIRITZ]

I have been out of the loop for a minute and I see this thread has really done numbers. It appears that the general consensus around here is that Don Lemon is a coon and Bill O'Reilly is an old racist. I'm neither going to add to these assertions or deconstruct them. However, if both men were critiqued on their opinions alone I don't think any rational person could find what they said any more offensive than what is recited in some of these rap songs. Shouldn't the rappers who constantly put forth lyrics that degrade black women and perpetuate black death be vilified by us as well? Should we not call out the ratchet black women on Love and HipHop and basketball wives who breathe fresh air into old stereotypes? Should we not call out the television show Scandal, in which a black women plays the stereotypical "bed wench" for some white man? Good enough to fuck but never to marry. Are these individuals not moon shine, buck dancing "coons" as well?

I know these are all example from the entertainment industry but based on some of the responses, a lot of you aren't upset at what Don Lemon actually said. You guys upset that he said it on CNN in front a predominately white audience. A lot of us disliked it only because it perpetuated the negative stereotypes that many whites have about us. But considering the various depictions of us engaging in debauchery already, I doubt what he said had much effect.

I can take this point even further by pointing out the politicians who use our votes to get in office but are quick to dismiss any of our concerns when they get in office. Or what about the preachers who can build a mega million dollar church in the middle of the hood surrounded by abandon houses and buildings. What about the young bastard sons of single mothers who shoot up a neighborhood striking the innocent five year old playing on his bicycle? Are they not coons? Are the not sellouts?

Don Lemon may be a pompous coon but what is put forth by the very same people we embraced is far more harmful to our image as a people than anything he can say.

 

[Ajackson17]

I already said my piece and yes rappers and such that put their personal beliefs on blast are coons and those street thugs who kill innocence are coons.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

I already said my piece and yes rappers and such that put their personal beliefs on blast are coons and those street thugs who kill innocence are coons.

I have been out of the loop for a minute and I see this thread has really done numbers. It appears that the general consensus around here is that Don Lemon is a coon and Bill O'Reilly is an old racist. I'm neither going to add to these assertions or deconstruct them. However, if both men were critiqued on their opinions alone I don't think any rational person could find what they said any more offensive than what is recited in some of these rap songs. Shouldn't the rappers who constantly put forth lyrics that degrade black women and perpetuate black death be vilified by us as well? Should we not call out the ratchet black women on Love and HipHop and basketball wives who breathe fresh air into old stereotypes? Should we not call out the television show Scandal, in which a black women plays the stereotypical "bed wench" for some white man? Good enough to fuck but never to marry. Are these individuals not moon shine, buck dancing "coons" as well?

I know these are all example from the entertainment industry but based on some of the responses, a lot of you aren't upset at what Don Lemon actually said. You guys upset that he said it on CNN in front a predominately white audience. A lot of us disliked it only perpetuated the negative stereotypes that many whites have about us. But considering the various depictions of us engaging in debauchery already, I doubt what he said had much effect.

I can take this point even further by pointing out the politicians who use our votes to get in office but are quick to dismiss any of our concerns when they get in office. Or what about the preachers who can build a mega million dollar church in the middle of the hood surrounded by abandon houses and buildings. What about the young bastard sons of single mothers who shoot up a neighborhood striking the innocent five year old playing on his bicycle? Are they not coons? Are the not sellouts?

Don Lemon may be a pompous coon but what is put forth by the very same people we embraced is far more harmful to our image as a people than anything he can say.

CHUUUCH!!!

Oreilly must pray secretly for black people because by our actions and lifestyles we allow him to eat.

We have our own version of this cocksucker in France. Guest what we can do nothing against him because we are perpetuating the cliches and stereotype.

As i said in other threads we must change first and foremost.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

rappers r villified so that wall of text was for nothing...