Classic H-Rap Threads from the old Social lounge...

[Fazeem_Blackall]

[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]From Outright Theft to Glorious Empire[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]By the turn of the 20th Century, with the Indians dead or subjugated and African Americans forced into the long nightmare of Jim Crow, soon-to-be president Teddy Roosevelt - who called Blacks "a perfectly stupid race" - summed up the great American adventure with the guilelessness of a pure psychopath. In the BC contributing writer Paul Street described Roosevelt's "massive, four-volume 1899 study Winning of the West" as "a white-supremacist paean to Anglo-America's near-eradication of North America's original civilizations." [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]This is still the song that is sung, the imperative to supremacy that cannot but lead to endless war and massacre. Paul Street presents a long but necessarily incomplete chronicle of the mass murder exclamation points in U.S. history that polite white society now shakes its head in regret about, but which remain the operative events and premises on which U.S. behavior in the world is justified - celebrated! - today.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Roosevelt became a "hero" in the Spanish-American War of 1898, a pushover conflict in which a decrepit Spain was ejected from Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines. The U.S. was now a full-fledged imperial power with tens of millions of "natives" under its boot - and proud of it. American Manifest Destiny had gone truly global, as white as ever.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]But the Filipinos, who had surrounded and almost run out the Spanish before the Americans arrived, insisted on claiming their independence. The U.S. embarked on a scorched earth and bodies strategy - as usual. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]The American soldiers were confused, however. What would they call these people who lived in the thousand-island archipelago "free-fire" zone? With the Indian wars (massacres) still fresh in their minds, and the lynching of thousands of American Blacks the favorite pastime for many back home, U.S. soldiers wrote to family and friends of the fun they were having killing the "******s" and "injuns" of the Philippines.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]"Gooks," "chinks," and "hajis" would come later, once the Americans got their feet wet in the blood of the world.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Mark Twain, an anti-war activist, wrote of how 30,000 U.S. troops caused the deaths of a half-million Filipinos. One episode of many in the imperial butchery occurred in 1906 when a whole village sought refuge from the invaders in a dormant volcanic crater on the southern island of Jolo. Sixteen-hundred were massacred by American artillery, rifles and machine guns. U.S. officials reported: [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]"This action was absolutely necessary to the welfare of the people of Jolo. The position was first shelled by a naval gunboat and then assaulted by the troops and constabulary. The Moro women fought alongside the men and held their children before them, having sworn to die rather than yield. In this way a number of women and children were among the killed - an unfortunate but necessary evil."[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]The same script we hear today had been written, even then, just as the U.S. was stepping fully onto the global stage. We will not list the atrocities that U.S. soldiers have committed against (almost always) non-white peoples in the 100 years since the Jolo Crater Massacre, the Philippines. They are legion, as were the massacres that occurred in the previous centuries of the evolution of American Manifest Destiny.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]The rabid expansionism at the core of the American national personality has never been bound by fixed borders, international law, or any other constraints. Steeped in racism, it places no value whatsoever on non-white lives. That's why the Bush administration gets away with not counting the civilian casualties in Iraq - only the American dead matter. And that's why contemporary Americans feel perfectly normal speaking of "exporting American values" and other nonsense to cloak the atrocities of nation-stealing that are but a "necessary evil" in the fulfillment of some God-given mission - wherever it leads.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[Fazeem_Blackall]

[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Continuity of Crimes[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]The Haditha, Balad, Ramadi, and Makr al-Deeb massacres of Iraqi civilians by U.S. troops are mere whiffs from the inferno that has consumed up to a quarter million Iraqis since the Americans set upon their mission to accomplish - as in 1906 Jolo, the Philippines - what was "absolutely necessary to the welfare of the people."[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]In a post-Haditha column that Cindy Sheehan, anti-war mother of a soldier killed in Iraq, called "the most difficult article that I have ever had to write," she decried "the fact that our troops are being turned into war criminals." Sheehan recognizes that the U.S. is in violation of international law - that the Iraq war is a criminal enterprise. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]"War turns our mostly normal American youth into wanton murderers who have lost their own humanity and love of others. Haditha in this war and My Lai in another disgusting war were unfortunately not aberrations. War is the abominable aberration."[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]We commend Sheehan's courage in describing the U.S. government as criminal. In doing so, she is beginning to confront the national mythology - at the core of the national identity - that Americans are always seeking some "greater good" and commit crimes only by mistake or through the "aberrations" that are inevitably unleashed once wars are started.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]But even the brave Ms. Sheehan cannot face the truth. The (white) American public still cannot discuss why the U.S. glories in having become the ultimate imperial power of all time, to the acclaim of the overwhelming majority of its citizens whose whole history and culture has prepared them to accept this "burden." Wars may be aberrant experiences in the lives of most human individuals, but some nations are serial aggressors. American society is unique in having been formed almost wholly by processes of aggression against external and internal Others. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Societies willingly go to war when they have been primed to do so by an already existing mass internal dynamic that is easily manipulated by scheming rulers. White America has been constantly at war with Others, internal and external, since long before the founding of the Republic. George Bush just played the right chords, in Iraq. Now the music is sounding way off key, which causes majorities of Americans great concern and confusion. Yet these same citizens react just like their pre-Iraq selves when the Bush regime choreographs a near-identical run-up to war with neighboring Iran – another country they know nothing about except that it's not "white" in the American sense. Are white Americans stupid, or have they been conditioned by a national ethos born of habitual aggression, fundamental expectations of impunity, and an idiotic assumption of innocence?[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Cindy Sheehan tries to find the soft spot in America by blaming the crimes in Iraq and Vietnam on something called "war," but sadly winds up in the same place as apologists for slavery and genocide, who claim these systematic crimes were "aberrations" not fundamental to the American national character and worldview. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Slavery was not an aberration; it created the wealth that allowed the United States to emerge as a world power only a century-and-a-quarter after the Declaration of Independence, and to become a magnet for successive waves of European immigrants. Genocide of Native Americans was not an aberration; it was the logical outcome of the original European hemispheric-theft project, and became the national project with the triumph of the settlers over the British. The ever-expanding United States was born. Was it an aberration?[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]At the very least, we must hope the planet survives the United States. In a world that is becoming inter-dependent at breath-taking speed, there is no room for a superpower nation born in and nurtured by centuries of massacre and endless war, always with the majority support of its white citizenry. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]A Change of Values[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Most Black Americans understand that the U.S. has never been up to any good in the non-white vastness of the world, because we realize that most American whites have been steeped in either blood or lies about our own Black corner of the society. African Americans react with learned cynicism when white anti-warriors call for a "return" to "American values" - for obvious historical and contemporary reasons. What values? "American" values are the problem. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]The American-instigated crisis that threatens to widen the arenas of war is not just an "aberration" that can be corrected by getting the Bush men out of office - although that would be welcome. In truth, most Americans care little about the world, unless they have a privileged position in it, imposing their will on everyone else. They are collectively hostile to their own fellow citizens who are Black, and many are rousing themselves for a fierce confrontation with yet another Other: Latino immigrants. It's the same historical dynamic, that can only lead to more massacres and endless wars - foreign and domestic.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana][SIZE=-1]Gamble & Ford[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=geneva,verdana]Dedicated to Crazy Horse, Nat Turner, Antonio López de Santa Anna, Vo Nguyen Giap, Muqtada alSadr.[/FONT]


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[Fazeem_Blackall]

Celebrating Black History

[SIZE=+0]When Dr. Carter Godwin Woodson, the son of former slaves, founded Negro History Week in 1926, he was a man of vision and purpose. Dr. Woodson was a man who studied in some of the finest schools in America and France, but understood education tainted with White Supremacy was worth little—unless those exposed to it were inoculated from its poison by having a healthy dose of self-knowledge. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+0]If we understood our true history, we would understand that our greatness even extends past the great ancient kingdoms of Africa, who taught the Caucasians knowledge, wisdom, understanding and civilization. We would know that the Black man and woman have no birth record, no beginning nor ending. [/SIZE]In his landmark work, “The Mis-Education of the Negro,” Dr. Woodson observed:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+0]“When you control a man’s thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his ‘proper place’ and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]Negro History Week, which has become Black History Month, is an opportunity to educate. But that education must go beyond the stories of slavery, suffering and death endured at the hands of the slave master and their children. And it must go beyond the convenient elements and historical accounts that tell a one-sided tale of the Black struggle. The tale is largely told from the cotton fields up to the Civil Rights movement, with Rosa Parks taking a seat on a bus and “a dream” that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. talked about in 1963 at the March on Washington. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]This sanitized history tells the story of Black folk forever fighting to be near and dear to the slave master, willing to sacrifice and die for the slave master, willing to endure any deprivation in the struggle to be accepted by the slave master.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]That version of history isn’t surprising, given that our former slave masters and those tainted with Black inferiority have a basic script to read from and the same script is recycled year after year and repeated at annual Black History Month celebrations.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+0]But even that history is tainted: Rosa Parks wasn’t just a tired Black woman who didn’t want to move to the back of the bus. She was part of an organized movement to combat segregationist laws and her arrest was part of a campaign to strike down Black second-class citizenship that had been enshrined in law. Dr. King didn’t just have a dream. By 1967, a year before he died, he shared a revelation about the Vietnam War and the political machinations and spending of a country drunk on the wine of war. The madness of warmongering made government efforts for racial progress and advancement for the poor a farce, he said, in his historic Riverside Church speech in New York. There Dr. King called for non-violence abroad as he called for non-violence at home and was roundly condemned and ostracized for that call.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]The story is rarely told of Blacks who fought to keep from going into slavery and to keep their brothers and sisters from enslavement. The story of Black rebellion and the awesome fear of slave uprisings isn’t told either. The fact that Black men and women believed in “give me liberty or give me death” isn’t widely shared.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]Why? As Dr. Woodson so profoundly observed, if you control a person’s thinking, you control their actions. If we learned our true history, we might actually believe it is possible to live and live well without the direction of Whites. We might believe that self-determination isn’t a pipe dream or an out-of-vogue statement from the 1970s. We might believe unity is possible and commit to unity.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+0]If we knew our true history and how to measure the time, we might understand that we must do something for ourselves. We cannot wait for others to do for us what we should and must do for ourselves.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]If we understood our true history, we would understand that our greatness even extends past the great ancient kingdoms of Africa, who taught the Caucasians knowledge, wisdom, understanding and civilization. We would know that the Black man and woman have no birth record, no beginning nor ending. We are the original people of the earth and descendents from God himself. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+0]All studies of history is the best suited to reward our research. If we studied history, we could see not only the heroes, but we could see the successes and the failures. We could see the strategies used to thwart our progress and plan to avoid those pitfalls. As the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan observed, once you learn the lessons of history, you don’t have to repeat them.[/SIZE]​

[SIZE=+0]Wouldn’t it be wonderful to learn to put the disunity, discord, envy and jealousy of the past behind us, because history shows the oppressor uses those impediments as tools to disrupt us? Wouldn’t it be wonderful to understand liberation is a cause worth living and dying for? Wouldn’t it be wonderful to understand that we have the opportunity to not only study history, but to make history—by committing ourselves to the cause of freedom, justice and equality for our people and the oppressed people of the earth?[/SIZE]

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

these are just copy/pasted articles from the final call's website

lol

these people really believe a flying saucer is going to pick them up

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

these are just copy/pasted articles from the final call's website

lol

these people really believe a flying saucer is going to pick them up

They are copy and pasted from the old social Lounges archive and were created By H-rap brown in race and religion back 2008, I was looking for something else and came across these and decided to bring them back since the site seems hell bent on not restoring the old threads...

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

they were not created by h-rap brown, use google you dummy

the first one was written by glen ford and peter gamble for blackcommentator.com

the second one is from the same authors and so is the third one

the fourth one is from final call, no author listed

 

[melanated khemist]

Good thread.

 

[shadb33]

rofl yea H Rap doesn't type like that

 

[Chike]

It's a thread hrap posted, doesn't mean he created the actual articles. People post articles all the time. Therefore they ARE hrap's threads.

 

[sickbizzle]

and so if you understand all of the above but still choose to live in this country and pay your taxes, what does that show about your own character? it costs $80 for a passport and everything you make over like $90K overseas can't be taxed by the USG.

 

[Chike]

and so if you understand all of the above but still choose to live in this country and pay your taxes, what does that show about your own character? it costs $80 for a passport and everything you make over like $90K overseas can't be taxed by the USG.

IT's not that easy to just up and leave to another country to actually live... You need to learn their language, customs, culture, laws.... and that all takes time and money.

 

[judahxulu]

IT's not that easy to just up and leave to another country to actually live... You need to learn their language, customs, culture, laws.... and that all takes time and money.

More time than money...Its easier if you have a trade.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

It's a thread hrap posted, doesn't mean he created the actual articles. People post articles all the time. Therefore they ARE hrap's threads.

Thank you for speaking sense...

 

[hrap-120]

Thank you for speaking sense...

Good looks on the Love Soloman.

We need to find a way to keep these white-trolls out of our threads and out of our business...

Im kinda creeped out that a white guy would actually search for the authors, and source of the articles we share...thats very strange, maybe he is law enforcement....one of the negro's even co-signed him.

 

[And Step]

they were not created by h-rap brown, use google you dummy

the first one was written by glen ford and peter gamble for blackcommentator.com

the second one is from the same authors and so is the third one

the fourth one is from final call, no author listed

It's been a while since you engaged in the act of coupling, huh?

Nothing says vagina repellent like checking PM's and googling article sources to get the goods on people.

My man, you are too serious for me.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

it takes two seconds to google a line from a write up

it takes a little more time to read peoples PM's, but its more rewarding

 

[And Step]

it takes two seconds to google a line from a write up

it takes a little more time to read peoples PM's, but its more rewarding

Rewarding in what way?