Christians would understand homosexuality if the scientists would stop telling lies

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judahxulu;3849405 said:
youse a dumb ass nigga. that born gay bullshit has been scientifically debunked for a while and the faggot scientists who made it up have been challenged by scientific ethics in research committees.

Your stupidity knows no limits. Many animals display gay behavior, and for the record, humans are animals too. I know lesbians and bi-sexual chicks and they all told me they always liked other girls/women.
 
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God/nature created homos. If it didn't, than there wouldn't be so many gay people out there in the world.
 
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kingblaze84;3852496 said:
Your stupidity knows no limits. Many animals display gay behavior, and for the record, humans are animals too. I know lesbians and bi-sexual chicks and they all told me they always liked other girls/women.

nigga ur just parroting what you been told. im not spitting opinion. i studied it for myself. humans are not born with ANY particular sexuality.
 
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;3851915 said:
ONCE AGAIN.. LIKE I SAID AND I WILL REPEAT.. THOSE ARE A VICE/SIN....I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SOMEONE COMING FROM THE DOCTOR CRYIN BECAUSE THEY WERE DYING OF CHILDMOLESTATION AND LYIN!.. Dumb ass

lol are you really that stupid?

child molestation = pedophilia which is considered a disease.

alcoholism = considered disease

habitual lying = disease. its called pseudologie (dont know if its the same word in the usa)

you the dumb ass.
 
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EuropeanAndWhite;3854500 said:
lol are you really that stupid?

child molestation = pedophilia which is considered a disease.

alcoholism = considered disease

habitual lying = disease. its called pseudologie (dont know if its the same word in the usa)

you the dumb ass.

a sickness and a disease is two different things dumb ass!!
 
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;3854753 said:
a sickness and a disease is two different things dumb ass!!

and where did i mention the word sickness?

point is, gayness is not a disease and its not a sickness. its not even a sin (whatever this is).

you lost, just accept it. you can go on and continue to suck your saviors dick after it, no problem.
 
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Cain_Marko;3855067 said:
If you looked it up then why are you wrong?

am i?

lol.

refute this with facts then...

http://conservativecolloquium.wordpr...dies-debunked/
http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html
http://noapologies.ca/daily-news/gay...orn-homosexual

we all have choices. niggas wanna lightweight champion gay rights or whatever on here but fail to see the injustice of removing ones capacity to choose. goddamn idiots do nothing but parrot popularized beliefs. it has been proven that the gay gene theory creators are in fact homosexual and the whole thing has been questioned by official ethics in research organizations.
 
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Cain_Marko;3855416 said:
All those sites listed have religious agendas so there data has always been flawed or onesided. Fam I'm not going to argue with you because your religious belief is cemented so this argument is futile but you can walk outside of your home and see a person born with two sex organs. Did those people have a choice in their life to have what they now? I'm not gay rights activist I actually do not condone their behavior but I think some choose to be gay and some was born gay simple as that.

being born with a physical mutation is not the same as sexual preference. as far as that religious agenda shit miss me with that. anything can be labelled like that. studies that throw the born gay slant can be said to have a secular humanist or satanist agenda for example. is the actual data right or wrong is what i asked. prove it wrong or shut the fuck up.

and i dont have a religious belief nigga. is that how you refute facts? call someone religious and speak of some spooky religious agenda? refute me with facts or stand as the idiot you have shown yourself to be.
 
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A. Dean Byrd, the past president of NARTH, confirmed that the statement from the American Psychological Association came in a brochure that updates what the APA has advocated for years.

Specifically, in a brochure that first came out about 1998, the APA stated: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

However, in the update: a brochure now called, "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," the APA's position changed.

The new statement says:

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles. ..."

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=97940

On April 14, 2003, the International Human Genome Consortium announced the successful completion of the Human Genome Project—two years ahead of schedule. The press report read: “The human genome is complete and the Human Genome Project is over” (see “Human Genome Report...,” 2003, emp. added). Most of the major science journals reported on the progress in the field of genetics, but also speculated on how the information would now be used. The one piece of information that never materialized from the Human Genome Project was the identification of the so-called “gay gene.”

The human X and Y chromosomes (the two “sex” chromosomes) have been completely sequenced. Thanks to work carried out by labs all across the globe, we know that the X chromosome contains 153 million base pairs, and harbors a total of 1168 genes (see NCBI, 2004). The National Center for Biotechnology Information reports that the Y chromosome—which is much smaller—contains “only” 50 million base pairs, and is estimated to contain a mere 251 genes. Educational institutions such as Baylor University, the Max Planck Institute, the Sanger Institute, Washington University in St. Louis, and others have spent countless hours and millions of research dollars analyzing these unique chromosomes. As the data began to pour in, they allowed scientists to construct gene maps—using actual sequences from the Human Genome Project. And yet, neither the map for the X nor the Y chromosome contains any “gay gene.”

. Neil Risch and his coworkers admitted:

There is little disagreement that male homosexual orientation is not a Mendelian trait. In fact, a priori, one would expect the role of a major gene in male homosexual orientation to be limited because of the strong selective pressures against such a gene. It is unlikely that a major gene underlying such a common trait could persist over time without an extraordinary counterbalancing mechanism (1993, 262:2064).

Evan S. Balaban, a neurobiologist at the Neurosciences Institute in San Diego, noted that

the search for the biological underpinnings of complex human traits has a sorry history of late. In recent years, researchers and the media have proclaimed the “discovery” of genes linked to alcoholism and mental illness as well as to homosexuality. None of the claims...has been confirmed (as quoted in Horgan, 1995).

Charles Mann agreed, stating: “Time and time again, scientists have claimed that particular genes or chromosomal regions are associated with behavioral traits, only to withdraw their findings when they were not replicated” (1994, 264:1687). It appears that the gay gene will be added to this category of unreplicated claims.

http://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.asp
 
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http://www.cwfa.org/images/content/bornorbred.pdf

One of the most influential studies on the genetics of homosexuality was done by Dean Hamer and his co-workers at the National Cancer Institute in Washington DC (1993). Hamer's research involved studying thirty-two pairs of brothers who were either "exclusively or mostly" homosexual. None of the sets of brothers were related. Of the thirty-two pairs, Hamer and his colleagues found that two-thirds of them (twenty-two of the sets of brothers) shared the same type of genetic material. This strongly supports the hypothesis that there is an existing gene that influences homosexuality (4). Hamer then looked closely at the DNA of these gay brothers to try and find the region of the X chromosome (since the earlier research suggested that the gene was passed down maternally) that most of the homosexual brothers shared. He discovered that homosexual brothers have a much higher likelihood of inheriting the same genetic sequence on the region of the X chromosome identified by Xq28, than heterosexual brothers of the same gay men. Keep in mind though, that this is just a region of the X chromosome, not a specific gene. Although researchers are hopeful, a single gene has not yet been identified (7). Hamer's study also acknowledges the fact that while it does suggest that there is a gene that influences homosexuality, it has not yet been determined how greatly the gene influences whether or not a person will be homosexual (4). In addition, Hamer attempted to locate a similar gene in female homosexuals, but was unsuccessful (7). The results that Hamer's study did find though, cannot yet be accepted as absolute truth. Another study took place in 1993 by Macke et al. This study examined the same gene locus as the Hamer study, but found that it had no influence on homosexuality (8). As you can see, the results on this topic are still extremely varied and reasonably new, so it is difficult to come to any lasting conclusion.

Other studies have been conducted that look at twin brothers rather than brothers of different ages. Bailey and Pillard (1991) did a study of twins that determined a Ò52% concordance of homosexuality in monozygotic twins, 22% for dizygotic twins, and 11% for adoptive brothers of homosexual men (8). These results, like Hamer's, provide further support for the claim that homosexuality is genetically linked. Studies very similar to the Bailey and Pillard study have been done both with female homosexual siblings and siblings of both sexes. The results for both of these studies were only off from Bailey and PillardÕs by a few percentage points. Putting all of these results together, it seems like genetics are at least 50% accountable for determining a personÕs sexual orientation (8).

Looking at the results of many of the other studies I have discussed, it seems a little strange to me that the student of homosexual siblings who were both male and female came up with similar result as the studies that looked exclusively at male homosexuality. Hamer's study, along with others, have tried to located a gene that influences female homosexuality, but they have been unsuccessful. More importantly, the region of the X chromosome that very possibly could influence male homosexuality does not influence females in the same way. Female heterosexuals merely pass the gene sequence on to their sons. Knowing this, it seems odd to me that there would be such a high percentage of male and female homosexual siblings. Perhaps this suggests that if genetics are responsible for homosexuality, we have a long way to go before we completely understand the gene loci that determine sexuality.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1925

Hamer Hammered by New Scientific Study, FRC Says
"Science Confirms What I've Seen in My Own Life as Well as in the Lives of Thousands of Others Who Have Left the Homosexual Lifestyle," Cantu Says

WASHINGTON, April 22 /PRNewswire/ -- " Scientists are finally telling us what we've always known. There is absolutely no scientific proof of a 'gay gene,'" said Family Research Council Policy Analyst Yvette Cantu Thursday.

A study conducted in 1993 by openly "gay" activist and researcher Dr. Dean Hamer of the National Cancer Institute examined the X chromosomes of 40 pairs of homosexual brothers. The study, which appeared in the March 1993 issue of the journal Science, found that 33 of the pairs of brothers had genetic markers for male homosexuality.

A new study attempting to replicate Hamer's was released today by the same Science magazine, discrediting the 1993 study. The study conducted by scientists from the Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences at the University of Western Ontario and the Department of Genetics at Stanford Medical School concluded that "data do not support the presence of a gene of large effect influencing sexual orientation."

The Boston Globe reported in February that the media-ballyhooed "gay gene" theory was already in trouble. The Globe article featured the findings of Dr. Richard Pillard, a professor of psychiatry at Boston University's School of Medicine, whose twin studies showed "that sexuality is greatly influenced by environment, and that the role of genetics is, in the end, limited."

"These findings confirm what I've seen in my own life as well as in the lives of thousands and thousands of people who have left the lifestyle," said Cantu. "I am living proof that homosexuality is not an immutable characteristic. Hamer himself has said that lesbianism is 'culturally transmitted, not inherited ... It's more environmental than genetic, more nurture than nature.' Will these recent studies force Hamer to concede that male homosexuality is also not a matter of genetics but of environment?

http://fathersforlife.org/gay_issues/gay_gene.htm

so do all the scientists involved have a religious agenda? looking at the sexual orientation of those who originally promoted and "researched" proving a gay gene i would say there is indeed an agenda at play and it has nothing to do with religion (well maybe roman catholocism...lol)
 
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Cain_Marko;3855494 said:
Wow.......this is a sore subject for you huh? I mean damn is it that serious? Calm down fam I just don't agree with you the "shut the fuck up" makes me think your upset over a simple disagreement and that makes you look foolish and immature and can't handle diversity in a discussion.......but surely I'm wrong???

whatever nigga. that appeal to ridicule fallacy shit dont work on me.

youre wrong.

shut the fuck up.

there are other people in this thread who dont agree with me. they didnt quote me. you did. now refute the facts or ask yourself why you cling so hard to a concept that has no basis in absolute truth.
 
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Cain_Marko;3855609 said:
Again...........calm down fam "I" just don't agree with you also you got quoted because I didn't agree with you and your "facts". Now you can type a titan graph about how you Googled homosexuals and their genetics all you want BUT I do not agree with you as previously stated.

Oh yeah you.........shut the fuck up.

like i thought. no accountability for your dumb ass claims. carry on troll...
 
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i think the discussion goes the wrong way. judah is right, from what i read it really isnt genetically programmed if your gay or not. at least theres no scientific proof.

but that still doesnt mean that being gay is something you just can learn. you cant turn a 20 year old straight man into a gay and you cant turn a gay man into a straight man.

maybe we should take drake into this discussion as he gets considered "soft" from a lot of people. he once stated that he was raised by his mom and was mainly around females. BUT dude isnt gay. he just more sensitive because he was raised very feminine, lack of masculin patterns he could follow. so its too simple to say you get taught being gay in early ages. just imagine there were and still are girl schools and a lot of these females never really had contact to any males until they in their 20s. so how is it that they dont turn lesbian?
 
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Nobody is born gay and yes I looked on narth and all them sites,I think lack of healthy male friendships can cause some type of attraction but does the parents have a role in this.kids get teased because they aint tough or strong cant fight they can lead to homosexual attraction.
 
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waynefan;3855982 said:
Nobody is born gay and yes I looked on narth and all them sites,I think lack of healthy male friendships can cause some type of attraction but does the parents have a role in this.kids get teased because they aint tough or strong cant fight they can lead to homosexual attraction.

the parents definitely have a role especially the mothers hormonal balance and nutrition before and during gestation.
 
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