Chris Davis and White Folks BARRY BONDS IS THE HOME RUN KING (BONDS APPRECIATION)

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waterproof;6029130 said:
nujerz84;6027524 said:
aneed123;6025856 said:
im be ignant fuck it.... if yall gonna asterik Bonds... Ima asterik Ruths shit cuz he was beating up on white boys while the black folk and Hispanics werent allowed to play....

How many great black and latino pitchers were pitchers capable of shutting down Ruth outside of Satchel Paige..

a whole lot Negro League pitches would of shut down Ruth....

"Smokey Joe" Williams

Career: 1905-1932

Although barred from the major leagues, Williams pitched many games against major-league stars in post-season barnstorming exhibitions. He proved to be as tough against them as he was against the Negro leaguers, posting a 20-7 record in these games. Among his victims were Grover Alexander, Walter Johnson, Chief Bender, Rube Marquard, and Waite Hoyt, all Hall of Famers. Three different times, he faced the eventual National League champions. He won two of those games and lost the third, 1-0 to the 1917 New York Giants despite throwing a no-hitter.




Bullet Rogan

Rube Foster



Bill Jenkinson has documented 16 exhibition games in which Ruth played against black pitchers. He also mentions 3 other games for which there isn't any contemporary primary sources. Below is a summary of how he performed in the documented games per Jenkinson:

AB - 55

1B - 11

2B - 2

3B - 0

HR - 12

BA - .455

SA - 1.145

This includes his 3 jacks in one game off "Cannonball" Dick Redding in 1927.

Before I read his book I had independently collected many of the same games and a few others from ProQuest, and John Holway's book. The sample size isn't large but he his rate stats against black pitchers is much better than the best hitting stats of the best black players of the time in Negro League play.

*Note that Jenkinson gives Ruth credit for two homers that were ruled ground rule doubles. In an exhibition game in 1926, Ruth crushed two balls that would have been homers in any major league park. The game was played at a field with a short right field fence so any ball hit over the fence, regardless of the distance, was ruled a ground rule double. Technically he hit .455 with 10 homers 4 doubles and a 1.073 slugging average.


 
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I've read several excerpts about the game between Torriente and Ruth. After the 1920 season the NY Giants played a series of exhibition games in Cuba against some of the top Cuban players. Over the course of the series Ruth hit 10 for 29 with 5 runs, 2 singles, 3 doubles, 3 triples and two homers and 6 Ks. His average was .345.

In one of the games, Cristobal Torriente hit 3 homers off NY Giants 1st baseman George "Highpockets" Kelly. Babe Ruth came in to pitch once versus Torriente and gave up a double. Ruth was 0-3 with a walk in the game. According to one of the books I took out from the library, all of Torriente's homers appear to have been in the park. Apparently the park was huge and it was rare to see anyone hit one over the fence.

This has often been reported as a case where Babe got "outdone" by a Cuban player. He did get outdone - but you rarely see it mentioned that Torriente did his damage off of a first baseman.


 
nujerz84;6032380 said:
^^^ Ruth against Black and Latin Players putting up Triple Crown Stats....

come on man, stop it.....you asked if any Negro league pitches can shut down ruth and I named names, Ruth went against Negro League pitchers and the only Goat listed was Cannonball that's only 1, smh acting like Ruth aint going to put up numbers against regular pitchers
 
ParallelRhymes;6028860 said:
aneed123;6028802 said:
nujerz84;6027524 said:
aneed123;6025856 said:
im be ignant fuck it.... if yall gonna asterik Bonds... Ima asterik Ruths shit cuz he was beating up on white boys while the black folk and Hispanics werent allowed to play....

How many great black and latino pitchers were pitchers capable of shutting down Ruth outside of Satchel Paige..

All of em.... Look at Mlb today with al the great black and brown talent....

Where? black players are at an all time low...

there is great black talent... Howard,the Braves whole outfield, Mclutchen, Desmond Jennings,Kemp, Fielder I can go on.....
 
Monizzle14;6029173 said:
I don't respect babe ruth's diversityless career but i also don't respect bonds home run record. In my opinion cheating is cheating regardless if i cheat on my job i get fired i could give a fuck less about feeling sorry for cheaters.

I hear u but had baseball not allowed all those roid user to get props and big money while Bonds was better than them all... we wouldnt have this issue... Mcgwire looked like Paul Bunyan in the 80's... they did nothing... I bet if Bonds didnt use and blow those guys numbers out the water none of this congress nonsense and uproar would be going on... they let guys use and did nothing but Bonds gotta be vilified when he does it?
 
So you niggers arent gonna bring up the fact that both Reggie Jackson and Ken Griffey Jr(both non steriod users) had more HR's at the All Star break then Chris Davis?
 
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S.jR.;6039348 said:
Drafted Chris Davis in rd 13 of the cheap seats draft.. 'preciate that @icecoldstew

lol lucky bish. I wasnt able to do any of my drafts. Im still cookin tho
 
aneed123;6037579 said:
Monizzle14;6029173 said:
I don't respect babe ruth's diversityless career but i also don't respect bonds home run record. In my opinion cheating is cheating regardless if i cheat on my job i get fired i could give a fuck less about feeling sorry for cheaters.

I hear u but had baseball not allowed all those roid user to get props and big money while Bonds was better than them all... we wouldnt have this issue... Mcgwire looked like Paul Bunyan in the 80's... they did nothing... I bet if Bonds didnt use and blow those guys numbers out the water none of this congress nonsense and uproar would be going on... they let guys use and did nothing but Bonds gotta be vilified when he does it?

baseball let it fly so they could cash in on the home run chases in the late 90's and early 2000's and they should be partly to blame. at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact bonds was jucing and cheated.

side note: speaking of the undertones of race in this thread the white homie greg anderson had bonds back than most black folk woulda had his back in the same situation lol. talk about not snitching lol dude stayed in jail for a minute to protect his boy bonds.
 
I agree with @waterproof n @parallelrhymes

That being said Ken Griffey Jr will always be my personal GOAT. I wanted to be like him the most.
 
but for all those who say cheating this and that, if you aint caught you aint cheated and it aint cheating....

and i aint heard one rebuttal on baseball being a sport that have a history of cheating, built on cheating and is a cheating sport, a whole lot of people in the mlb hof that cheated and yall aint saying shit
 


Chris Davis is beastin right now ima give credit where credit is due no matter what....fukk all that racial BS
 

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