waterproof;6029130 said:nujerz84;6027524 said:aneed123;6025856 said:im be ignant fuck it.... if yall gonna asterik Bonds... Ima asterik Ruths shit cuz he was beating up on white boys while the black folk and Hispanics werent allowed to play....
How many great black and latino pitchers were pitchers capable of shutting down Ruth outside of Satchel Paige..
a whole lot Negro League pitches would of shut down Ruth....
"Smokey Joe" Williams
Career: 1905-1932
Although barred from the major leagues, Williams pitched many games against major-league stars in post-season barnstorming exhibitions. He proved to be as tough against them as he was against the Negro leaguers, posting a 20-7 record in these games. Among his victims were Grover Alexander, Walter Johnson, Chief Bender, Rube Marquard, and Waite Hoyt, all Hall of Famers. Three different times, he faced the eventual National League champions. He won two of those games and lost the third, 1-0 to the 1917 New York Giants despite throwing a no-hitter.
Bullet Rogan
Rube Foster
Bill Jenkinson has documented 16 exhibition games in which Ruth played against black pitchers. He also mentions 3 other games for which there isn't any contemporary primary sources. Below is a summary of how he performed in the documented games per Jenkinson:
AB - 55
1B - 11
2B - 2
3B - 0
HR - 12
BA - .455
SA - 1.145
This includes his 3 jacks in one game off "Cannonball" Dick Redding in 1927.
Before I read his book I had independently collected many of the same games and a few others from ProQuest, and John Holway's book. The sample size isn't large but he his rate stats against black pitchers is much better than the best hitting stats of the best black players of the time in Negro League play.
*Note that Jenkinson gives Ruth credit for two homers that were ruled ground rule doubles. In an exhibition game in 1926, Ruth crushed two balls that would have been homers in any major league park. The game was played at a field with a short right field fence so any ball hit over the fence, regardless of the distance, was ruled a ground rule double. Technically he hit .455 with 10 homers 4 doubles and a 1.073 slugging average.
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