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I don't get how Bird played in the weaker era when he faced Bad boy Pistons/MJ Bulls/Wilkins Hawks/Dr.J&Mosses&Barkley 76ers/Ewing&King Knicks/Great Bucks Team/Lakers who two top 10 players Alltime and 3 Hall of famers overall/Hakeem Rockets/Malone Jazz/Reggie Pacers ect..

but Lebron plays in a tougher era that has more completion tho? In today's East you don't even have to win 60 games to be a number 1 seed and winning 30 games will get u in the playoffs..
 
blu197;7219544 said:
I don't get how Bird played in the weaker era when he faced Bad boy Pistons/MJ Bulls/Wilkins Hawks/Dr.J&Mosses&Barkley 76ers/Ewing&King Knicks/Great Bucks Team/Lakers who two top 10 players Alltime and 3 Hall of famers overall/Hakeem Rockets/Malone Jazz/Reggie Pacers ect..

but Lebron plays in a tougher era that has more completion tho? In today's East you don't even have to win 60 games to be a number 1 seed and winning 30 games will get u in the playoffs..

the overall talent level in the NBA is as good as it's ever been and you really can't argue that. The game has evolved and so have the players. Those were great teams you named no doubt but they were all led by one or two star players for the most part. In today's game you basically need a big 3 to be competitive ie Spurs/Heat/OKC/GSW/LAC look at a team like Houston who arguably have 2 of the best 10 players in the game and they aren't considered title contenders until they find another star which Is crazy. The 80s was basically dominated by two teams(Lakers/Celtics) and the 90s was Jordan's but if you place those teams in this current era no way they win as many titles which speaks volumes to how awesome Kobe and Duncan are... shit maybe I should have voted for one of them.. point is teams are loaded with talented players nowadays and the level of competition is thru the roof.. There were no players like Rose..Westbrook.. AD... Durant 20 years ago.. The Europeans have added a new dimension to the game and upped the overall skill level. The game is so far advanced and for Lebron to be the cream of the crop says a lot. What's scary about Lebron.. and this might come off as a little disrespectful but fuck it.. when he's 35/36 and he's lost a step or 2 and cant jump as high as he is now.. I think he's going to be as good as Magic was in his prime.
 
That big 3 talk hurts your argument, everyone teaming together shows the lack of real leaders and if most of the stars are on a few teams how does that make the league as a whole more deep when about only 4 teams are real contenders? And in today's game you don't need a big 3 "to be competitive" who won the title in 2011? And even when the Lakers won in 09-10 Gasol was the only other All-Star besides Kobe....

And how wasn't there players like AD when there were guys like C-Webb and Sheed better than him and the greatest athlete to ever play PF (Malone) was active?... And for Russ,Rose and KD you can give me Penny,Payton and Drexler and have possibly more OVERALL talent
 
blu197;7219631 said:
That big 3 talk hurts your argument, everyone teaming together shows the lack of real leaders and if most of the stars are on a few teams how does that make the league as a whole more deep when about only 4 teams are real contenders? And in today's game you don't need a big 3 "to be competitive" who won the title in 2011? And even when the Lakers won in 09-10 Gasol was the only other All-Star besides Kobe....

And how wasn't there players like AD when there were guys like C-Webb and Sheed better than him and the greatest athlete to ever play PF (Malone) was active?... And for Russ,Rose and KD you can give me Penny,Payton and Drexler and have possibly more OVERALL talent

How does the big 3 hurt my argument? Tim Duncan and Tony Parker aren't good leaders? CP3 isn't a good leader? Lebron? Kobe? most our current stars are on the same team but that's only because there are more star players now then there were 20 Years ago. Teams 1-8 I'm the west can potentially reach the finals and in the east there are 2 or 3 contenders so yea there parody. All due respect to C Webb..Rasheed.. Penny and Payton but those guys weren't freaks of nature like Westbrook Rose AD Durant and Lebron. Penny was an anomaly where as point guards like Rose Westbrook Wall Bledsoe are starting to become the norm.
 
Define "freaks of nature" you're sounding like espn reporters.. To me "freaks of nature" are ppl like Barkley,Rodman,Spud Webb,Ai... players that were doing things that shouldn't have been done with their size not players like KD (dude is a stick figure with a jump shot) and especially not AD..
 
blu197;7220531 said:
Define "freaks of nature" you're sounding like espn reporters.. To me "freaks of nature" are ppl like Barkley,Rodman,Spud Webb,Ai... players that were doing things that shouldn't have been done with their size not players like KD (dude is a stick figure with a jump shot) and especially not AD..

6'3+ point guards who are explosive ..fast ..quicks ..can handle and sufficiently play the position. Guys the size of AD and Durant should not be able to move the way they move.. these types of players did not exist 20 years ago.. like I said Penny was an anomaly. Lebron was the ultimate freak of nature. Rodman was basically Ben Wallace with a higher motor.. spud was trash.. Webber was athletic but I was more impressed with his skill then athleticism. Barkley was one of a kind no doubt but like I said he dominated in a weaker era and AI wasn't exactly a freak of nature.. he was just a really good scorer with great handle. They way players are built these days is like nothing I've ever seen. For you to say KD is nothing more then a stick figure with a jump shot is blatant ignorance but I can see your trying to win this debate by any means so ill give it a pass. The league has evolved over time as all things do and the game has been taken to another level both athletically and competitively. If you disagree cool I respect your opinion but ima have to keep it moving to the next thread.. its looking like this one is a wrap.
 
Bird esp considering the era he played in and comp was GOAT. Those 76ers and Piston teams were stacked. Then Jordan was Jordan carrying his team single handledly.
 
Man the disrespect for past NBA players of exceptional athleticism like Wilt, Dr. J, Darryl Dawkins, Shawn Kemp, Grant Hill, Skywalker Thompson, Wilkens, etc is preposterous
 
ericb4prez;7220173 said:
Can't vote for niggaz I ain't see play

Fuck that.

I didn't see Wilt or Russell play (and didn't see much of Kareem), but I know for sure they are all elite (and kareem is the GOAT)
 
Focal Point;7224194 said:
Man the disrespect for past NBA players of exceptional athleticism like Wilt, Dr. J, Darryl Dawkins, Shawn Kemp, Grant Hill, Skywalker Thompson, Wilkens, etc is preposterous

You can Hondo to that list, he was drafted by the Cleveland Browns even though he didn't play football in college
 
Parallel;7224574 said:
Focal Point;7224194 said:
Man the disrespect for past NBA players of exceptional athleticism like Wilt, Dr. J, Darryl Dawkins, Shawn Kemp, Grant Hill, Skywalker Thompson, Wilkens, etc is preposterous

*sees you selected Kobe Bryant*

Uh huh...

I'm just referring to all this talk that players in the past were some terribly slow uncoordinated can't jump or run ass niggas
 

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