Charlamagne Tha God: Big Sean the dopest out rn, Detroit rappers>>>>L.A. rappers

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MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9797604 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9797418 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9796957 said:
As far as subject matter and relation to real life (no fantasy miracle lyrical world)

Dark Sky Paradise > TPAB

Damn > I decided

The biggest problem with Kendrick is he has become the monster backpack rappers wanted. They wanted a God who could lead the charts sales wise and still have a lyrical/woke message. The issue with this is Kendricks message at times if overthought and over analyzed and can't be translated into real life shit.

To me big Sean has done a better job in spots at talking about the importance of family, dropping fuck niggas from your circle, and facing crazy bitches/adversity. I decided wasn't as good at this but dark sky paradise captured this shit so well. On a surface level this simpler message is easier to apply to life and also does it in a way where the messages can bang in the whip or be played at the club (I don't fuck with you for example). While Kendrick is a better rapper Sean's message can be enjoyed in more parts of life and be applied in more ways to real issues like fuck nigga friends, family dying, etc etc. Kendrick could never make One Man Can Change the World or Sunday Morning Jetpack type songs. Them shits are just so direct and don't require a first church of Kendrick commentary bible to digest.

Gtfoh. DSP aint fuckin with TPAB at all. Tell ya momma i said that shit

To me Dark Sky Paradise is a more versatile album than TPAB. Even kendrick said he has thoughts of not performing TPAB songs in future tours. TPAB feels like a rent an activist/pander to backpack rap album. Dark Sky Paradise talks about real shit in a more direct way.

To each his own. TPAB was much more mature and had different themes throughout the album that any black man could relate to. DSP is Big Sean's best work next to Detroit but doesnt hold up in comparison. Two very different products
 
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9797604 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9797418 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9796957 said:
As far as subject matter and relation to real life (no fantasy miracle lyrical world)

Dark Sky Paradise > TPAB

Damn > I decided

The biggest problem with Kendrick is he has become the monster backpack rappers wanted. They wanted a God who could lead the charts sales wise and still have a lyrical/woke message. The issue with this is Kendricks message at times if overthought and over analyzed and can't be translated into real life shit.

To me big Sean has done a better job in spots at talking about the importance of family, dropping fuck niggas from your circle, and facing crazy bitches/adversity. I decided wasn't as good at this but dark sky paradise captured this shit so well. On a surface level this simpler message is easier to apply to life and also does it in a way where the messages can bang in the whip or be played at the club (I don't fuck with you for example). While Kendrick is a better rapper Sean's message can be enjoyed in more parts of life and be applied in more ways to real issues like fuck nigga friends, family dying, etc etc. Kendrick could never make One Man Can Change the World or Sunday Morning Jetpack type songs. Them shits are just so direct and don't require a first church of Kendrick commentary bible to digest.

Gtfoh. DSP aint fuckin with TPAB at all. Tell ya momma i said that shit

To me Dark Sky Paradise is a more versatile album than TPAB. Even kendrick said he has thoughts of not performing TPAB songs in future tours. TPAB feels like a rent an activist/pander to backpack rap album. Dark Sky Paradise talks about real shit in a more direct way.

this off topic, but do you listen to backpack rap? like you listen to immortal technique and aseop rock and brother ali and all that? cause none of those dudes sound like kendrick. you listen to run the jewels and then TPAB and think its similar?

Cause you making wide generalizations. kendrick is not backpack rap. Sean and Kendrick can both be applied to real life issues, and fuck nigga friends, and family dying...

if you don't like kendrick thats fine, but don't sit here and make up shit.
 
double0suge;c-9796335 said:
Nipsey > Sean

Yeah

I like "Hussle in the House" better than anything Sean has ever dropped. I didn't think the Kris Kross "Jump" beat could get that gangsta'd out lol
 
SheerExcellence;c-9797760 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9797604 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9797418 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9796957 said:
As far as subject matter and relation to real life (no fantasy miracle lyrical world)

Dark Sky Paradise > TPAB

Damn > I decided

The biggest problem with Kendrick is he has become the monster backpack rappers wanted. They wanted a God who could lead the charts sales wise and still have a lyrical/woke message. The issue with this is Kendricks message at times if overthought and over analyzed and can't be translated into real life shit.

To me big Sean has done a better job in spots at talking about the importance of family, dropping fuck niggas from your circle, and facing crazy bitches/adversity. I decided wasn't as good at this but dark sky paradise captured this shit so well. On a surface level this simpler message is easier to apply to life and also does it in a way where the messages can bang in the whip or be played at the club (I don't fuck with you for example). While Kendrick is a better rapper Sean's message can be enjoyed in more parts of life and be applied in more ways to real issues like fuck nigga friends, family dying, etc etc. Kendrick could never make One Man Can Change the World or Sunday Morning Jetpack type songs. Them shits are just so direct and don't require a first church of Kendrick commentary bible to digest.

Gtfoh. DSP aint fuckin with TPAB at all. Tell ya momma i said that shit

To me Dark Sky Paradise is a more versatile album than TPAB. Even kendrick said he has thoughts of not performing TPAB songs in future tours. TPAB feels like a rent an activist/pander to backpack rap album. Dark Sky Paradise talks about real shit in a more direct way.

this off topic, but do you listen to backpack rap? like you listen to immortal technique and aseop rock and brother ali and all that? cause none of those dudes sound like kendrick. you listen to run the jewels and then TPAB and think its similar?

Cause you making wide generalizations. kendrick is not backpack rap. Sean and Kendrick can both be applied to real life issues, and fuck nigga friends, and family dying...

if you don't like kendrick thats fine, but don't sit here and make up shit.

backpack rap has to do with conscious rap. I listen to a little odisee and fucks with Kendricks music despite not being a huge fan of TPAB. Youngins who want "real hip hop" have rallied around Kendrick because of his lyrical ability and prior to TPAB segments of conscious thought. It's more 20 somethings wanting a savior to bring lyrics and fast rapping to the level Kendrick bought it to with high sales numbers and mainstream crossover appear unlike the rappers you mentioned who can't crack the mainstream.

 
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9798023 said:
SheerExcellence;c-9797760 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9797604 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9797418 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9796957 said:
As far as subject matter and relation to real life (no fantasy miracle lyrical world)

Dark Sky Paradise > TPAB

Damn > I decided

The biggest problem with Kendrick is he has become the monster backpack rappers wanted. They wanted a God who could lead the charts sales wise and still have a lyrical/woke message. The issue with this is Kendricks message at times if overthought and over analyzed and can't be translated into real life shit.

To me big Sean has done a better job in spots at talking about the importance of family, dropping fuck niggas from your circle, and facing crazy bitches/adversity. I decided wasn't as good at this but dark sky paradise captured this shit so well. On a surface level this simpler message is easier to apply to life and also does it in a way where the messages can bang in the whip or be played at the club (I don't fuck with you for example). While Kendrick is a better rapper Sean's message can be enjoyed in more parts of life and be applied in more ways to real issues like fuck nigga friends, family dying, etc etc. Kendrick could never make One Man Can Change the World or Sunday Morning Jetpack type songs. Them shits are just so direct and don't require a first church of Kendrick commentary bible to digest.

Gtfoh. DSP aint fuckin with TPAB at all. Tell ya momma i said that shit

To me Dark Sky Paradise is a more versatile album than TPAB. Even kendrick said he has thoughts of not performing TPAB songs in future tours. TPAB feels like a rent an activist/pander to backpack rap album. Dark Sky Paradise talks about real shit in a more direct way.

this off topic, but do you listen to backpack rap? like you listen to immortal technique and aseop rock and brother ali and all that? cause none of those dudes sound like kendrick. you listen to run the jewels and then TPAB and think its similar?

Cause you making wide generalizations. kendrick is not backpack rap. Sean and Kendrick can both be applied to real life issues, and fuck nigga friends, and family dying...

if you don't like kendrick thats fine, but don't sit here and make up shit.

backpack rap has to do with conscious rap. I listen to a little odisee and fucks with Kendricks music despite not being a huge fan of TPAB. Youngins who want "real hip hop" have rallied around Kendrick because of his lyrical ability and prior to TPAB segments of conscious thought. It's more 20 somethings wanting a savior to bring lyrics and fast rapping to the level Kendrick bought it to with high sales numbers and mainstream crossover appear unlike the rappers you mentioned who can't crack the mainstream.

I'm not sure what you saying here, but Kendrick is not backpack rap. Just because he talk about "conscious" shit don't make it backpack rap.

Early tupac was not backpack rap

Ice cube when he left nwa was not backpack rap

Nas ill matic was not backpack rap

These are the guys Kendrick is similar too

Brendas got a baby is exactly the kind of songs Kendrick raps

Keep ya head up ure exactly the kinda shit Kendrick raps

If you think Kendrick is an esoteric mystical bsckpack rapper then I don't know what to say to you. He def not in that category.

And I'm not sure what fans wanting has to do with quality of his music. If your issue is with the fans and bloggers, then fine. But what that have to do with k.dot himself.

 
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MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9796957 said:
As far as subject matter and relation to real life (no fantasy miracle lyrical world)

Dark Sky Paradise > TPAB

Damn > I decided

The biggest problem with Kendrick is he has become the monster backpack rappers wanted. They wanted a God who could lead the charts sales wise and still have a lyrical/woke message. The issue with this is Kendricks message at times if overthought and over analyzed and can't be translated into real life shit.

To me big Sean has done a better job in spots at talking about the importance of family, dropping fuck niggas from your circle, and facing crazy bitches/adversity. I decided wasn't as good at this but dark sky paradise captured this shit so well. On a surface level this simpler message is easier to apply to life and also does it in a way where the messages can bang in the whip or be played at the club (I don't fuck with you for example). While Kendrick is a better rapper Sean's message can be enjoyed in more parts of life and be applied in more ways to real issues like fuck nigga friends, family dying, etc etc. Kendrick could never make One Man Can Change the World or Sunday Morning Jetpack type songs. Them shits are just so direct and don't require a first church of Kendrick commentary bible to digest.

"Could never make?" Is it possible you are proselytizing too much, which leads to you making water downed arguments filled with axiomatic statements like the above?

You're basically the king of long-winded hot-takes right now.
 
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this is why i'd love to hear a kendrick x big sean battle on wax. Big Sean would surprise a lot of people and be a great contender.
 
salute to Charlemagne for actually listening to the content on "I Decided". Niggas in here naming these other rappers like Sean hasn't already surpassed them.
 
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DetroitBoi313;c-9805762 said:
salute to Charlemagne for actually listening to the content on "I Decided". Niggas in here naming these other rappers like Sean hasn't already surpassed them.

Nigga, I Decided is easily the (2nd) most boring project to come out the first quarter this year.
 

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