Charlamagne on #OscarsSoWhite: Can't Boycott What You're Not Invited To

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S2J;8806045 said:
No, no, no, just no

You have to seperate idealism and fantasy vs reality

The reality is we are not creating a seprate set of rules, institutions, infrastructure, job market, etc completely from white people

I'd LOVE to! Its not happening, purely fron a numbers standpoint.

So you do not just quit and say fuck it, we gon take our ball and go like you gon create a Black Oscar. Well, there actually is a black oscar, its called the Image award. And black people don't give a fuck about it.

No black actor goes thru 8 years of school, does broadway, bust their ass, struggles to survive, to have the cap of what they can win an Image Award. You gotta stay on their ass. Thats what 'oscarsowhite' did *chris rock undecut that entire movemrnt, that's another topic*

Its purely delusional to say 'lets just make our own shit', and it comes from people who dont have to work in a NORMAL job setting where they have to coexist wih people outside of their race

I'm not against the Image Award, but if I were an actor my question would be "why cant I have BOTH?!" I want BOTH, I said it before I want any award I'm eligible for I don't care who is giving it away.

These negroes are something else. They want to run a race, get mad when they come in second and then host another race without the gold medalist just so they can win. That's insecure as fuck, a classic sign of low self-esteem.

Its one thing to create something alongside something else but its a whole other discussion to think creating an obviously derivative award is the same as another one. Its delusional.

"I lost the Super Bowl," so? Go play in the Arena Football League...its the same shit...when they know it ain't.

 
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GabrielProsser;8806129 said:
S2J;8806045 said:
No, no, no, just no

You have to seperate idealism and fantasy vs reality

The reality is we are not creating a seprate set of rules, institutions, infrastructure, job market, etc completely from white people

I'd LOVE to! Its not happening, purely fron a numbers standpoint.

So you do not just quit and say fuck it, we gon take our ball and go like you gon create a Black Oscar. Well, there actually is a black oscar, its called the Image award. And black people don't give a fuck about it.

No black actor goes thru 8 years of school, does broadway, bust their ass, struggles to survive, to have the cap of what they can win an Image Award. You gotta stay on their ass. Thats what 'oscarsowhite' did *chris rock undecut that entire movemrnt, that's another topic*

Its purely delusional to say 'lets just make our own shit', and it comes from people who dont have to work in a NORMAL job setting where they have to coexist wih people outside of their race

Imagine if all of the revolutionist around the world even in the past held your view....it may be far from your site but it is not delusional to say lets make our own shit...how do you think this colony became its own country? They said fuck the queen

The elephant in the room before I personally can talk to anyone on this topic:

Are your pro equality and pro black empowerment---or are you anti white anything

Meaning, example, pro black =

I want as many black owners, execs, black coaches, and black quarterbacks as possible in the NFL.

Ok. Feasible. Lets get it

Anti-white ANYTHING = Lets secede and start a BNFL, that will play on BNBC, and and and be broadcast on black satellites, games played on a black owned island ...

Barack-Obama-Sleeping-on-the-Phone-83557-571x372.jpg


By all means, with the shit going on in this country i completely understand not wanting any white hands to touch anything we do. But my nigga...HOW?! Just saying it is great and will get you all the goats and ethers your heart desires but goats and ethers aint payin tha bills. HOW. Make it make sense...
 
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Maximus Rex;543180 said:
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hUpEhfxBY

The Nigerians didn't beg and plead for the Jews to give them shit, so why are we (in 2016) begging and pleading for inclusion and validation when we should be doing our own thang?

Nigerians are our people.

 
cannonspike1994;8806336 said:
Maximus Rex;543180 said:
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hUpEhfxBY

The Nigerians didn't beg and plead for the Jews to give them shit, so why are we (in 2016) begging and pleading for inclusion and validation when we should be doing our own thang?

Nigerians are our people.

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jono;8806162 said:
S2J;8806045 said:
No, no, no, just no

You have to seperate idealism and fantasy vs reality

The reality is we are not creating a seprate set of rules, institutions, infrastructure, job market, etc completely from white people

I'd LOVE to! Its not happening, purely fron a numbers standpoint.

So you do not just quit and say fuck it, we gon take our ball and go like you gon create a Black Oscar. Well, there actually is a black oscar, its called the Image award. And black people don't give a fuck about it.

No black actor goes thru 8 years of school, does broadway, bust their ass, struggles to survive, to have the cap of what they can win an Image Award. You gotta stay on their ass. Thats what 'oscarsowhite' did *chris rock undecut that entire movemrnt, that's another topic*

Its purely delusional to say 'lets just make our own shit', and it comes from people who dont have to work in a NORMAL job setting where they have to coexist wih people outside of their race

I'm not against the Image Award, but if I were an actor my question would be "why cant I have BOTH?!" I want BOTH, I said it before I want any award I'm eligible for I don't care who is giving it away.

These negroes are something else. They want to run a race, get mad when they come in second and then host another race without the gold medalist just so they can win. That's insecure as fuck, a classic sign of low self-esteem.

Its one thing to create something alongside something else but its a whole other discussion to think creating an obviously derivative award is the same as another one. Its delusional.

"I lost the Super Bowl," so? Go play in the Arena Football League...its the same shit...when they know it ain't.

Bad analogy. There are clear winners in the situations you mentioned. Not so much with awards because of judges.
 
Aryeh_Tsaddiq;8807568 said:
jono;8806162 said:
S2J;8806045 said:
No, no, no, just no

You have to seperate idealism and fantasy vs reality

The reality is we are not creating a seprate set of rules, institutions, infrastructure, job market, etc completely from white people

I'd LOVE to! Its not happening, purely fron a numbers standpoint.

So you do not just quit and say fuck it, we gon take our ball and go like you gon create a Black Oscar. Well, there actually is a black oscar, its called the Image award. And black people don't give a fuck about it.

No black actor goes thru 8 years of school, does broadway, bust their ass, struggles to survive, to have the cap of what they can win an Image Award. You gotta stay on their ass. Thats what 'oscarsowhite' did *chris rock undecut that entire movemrnt, that's another topic*

Its purely delusional to say 'lets just make our own shit', and it comes from people who dont have to work in a NORMAL job setting where they have to coexist wih people outside of their race

I'm not against the Image Award, but if I were an actor my question would be "why cant I have BOTH?!" I want BOTH, I said it before I want any award I'm eligible for I don't care who is giving it away.

These negroes are something else. They want to run a race, get mad when they come in second and then host another race without the gold medalist just so they can win. That's insecure as fuck, a classic sign of low self-esteem.

Its one thing to create something alongside something else but its a whole other discussion to think creating an obviously derivative award is the same as another one. Its delusional.

"I lost the Super Bowl," so? Go play in the Arena Football League...its the same shit...when they know it ain't.

Bad analogy. There are clear winners in the situations you mentioned. Not so much with awards because of judges.

While true, it was used to clarify my point.
 
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Aye @Aryeh_Tsaddiq you got Netflix? Check out a Nigerian movie called Fifty about 4 middle aged women going through relationship issues and shit

Saw it last week. I recommend it. Production tight and technically brilliant.
 
rip.dilla;8807620 said:
Aye @Aryeh_Tsaddiq you got Netflix? Check out a Nigerian movie called Fifty about 4 middle aged women going through relationship issues and shit

Saw it last week. I recommend it. Production tight and technically brilliant.

I'll check it out.
 
S2J;8806239 said:
GabrielProsser;8806129 said:
S2J;8806045 said:
No, no, no, just no

You have to seperate idealism and fantasy vs reality

The reality is we are not creating a seprate set of rules, institutions, infrastructure, job market, etc completely from white people

I'd LOVE to! Its not happening, purely fron a numbers standpoint.

So you do not just quit and say fuck it, we gon take our ball and go like you gon create a Black Oscar. Well, there actually is a black oscar, its called the Image award. And black people don't give a fuck about it.

No black actor goes thru 8 years of school, does broadway, bust their ass, struggles to survive, to have the cap of what they can win an Image Award. You gotta stay on their ass. Thats what 'oscarsowhite' did *chris rock undecut that entire movemrnt, that's another topic*

Its purely delusional to say 'lets just make our own shit', and it comes from people who dont have to work in a NORMAL job setting where they have to coexist wih people outside of their race

Imagine if all of the revolutionist around the world even in the past held your view....it may be far from your site but it is not delusional to say lets make our own shit...how do you think this colony became its own country? They said fuck the queen

The elephant in the room before I personally can talk to anyone on this topic:

Are your pro equality and pro black empowerment---or are you anti white anything

Meaning, example, pro black =

I want as many black owners, execs, black coaches, and black quarterbacks as possible in the NFL.

Ok. Feasible. Lets get it

Anti-white ANYTHING = Lets secede and start a BNFL, that will play on BNBC, and and and be broadcast on black satellites, games played on a black owned island ...

Barack-Obama-Sleeping-on-the-Phone-83557-571x372.jpg


By all means, with the shit going on in this country i completely understand not wanting any white hands to touch anything we do. But my nigga...HOW?! Just saying it is great and will get you all the goats and ethers your heart desires but goats and ethers aint payin tha bills. HOW. Make it make sense...

Your asking me to solve the biggest issue facing blacks in America in one explanation...how do we get our own

Before I try to explain, do you believe it is impossible?

If you are a believer ,that it is impossible, then there is no need to have this conversation because you will believe It is impossible regardless of what i say

My statement of what if every revolutionists had that thought in their mind of impossible, should have raised a eyebrow, especially living in a country that was conceived out of a revolution (I live in the us, idk where you stay)

So to make it make sense, I can only point you towards the history of revolutions in the world to show you that it has happened and it is possible, and some as recent as the 20th century
 
GabrielProsser;8807668 said:
S2J;8806239 said:
GabrielProsser;8806129 said:
S2J;8806045 said:
No, no, no, just no

You have to seperate idealism and fantasy vs reality

The reality is we are not creating a seprate set of rules, institutions, infrastructure, job market, etc completely from white people

I'd LOVE to! Its not happening, purely fron a numbers standpoint.

So you do not just quit and say fuck it, we gon take our ball and go like you gon create a Black Oscar. Well, there actually is a black oscar, its called the Image award. And black people don't give a fuck about it.

No black actor goes thru 8 years of school, does broadway, bust their ass, struggles to survive, to have the cap of what they can win an Image Award. You gotta stay on their ass. Thats what 'oscarsowhite' did *chris rock undecut that entire movemrnt, that's another topic*

Its purely delusional to say 'lets just make our own shit', and it comes from people who dont have to work in a NORMAL job setting where they have to coexist wih people outside of their race

Imagine if all of the revolutionist around the world even in the past held your view....it may be far from your site but it is not delusional to say lets make our own shit...how do you think this colony became its own country? They said fuck the queen

The elephant in the room before I personally can talk to anyone on this topic:

Are your pro equality and pro black empowerment---or are you anti white anything

Meaning, example, pro black =

I want as many black owners, execs, black coaches, and black quarterbacks as possible in the NFL.

Ok. Feasible. Lets get it

Anti-white ANYTHING = Lets secede and start a BNFL, that will play on BNBC, and and and be broadcast on black satellites, games played on a black owned island ...

Barack-Obama-Sleeping-on-the-Phone-83557-571x372.jpg


By all means, with the shit going on in this country i completely understand not wanting any white hands to touch anything we do. But my nigga...HOW?! Just saying it is great and will get you all the goats and ethers your heart desires but goats and ethers aint payin tha bills. HOW. Make it make sense...

Your asking me to solve the biggest issue facing blacks in America in one explanation...how do we get our own

Before I try to explain, do you believe it is impossible?

If you are a believer ,that it is impossible, then there is no need to have this conversation because you will believe It is impossible regardless of what i say

My statement of what if every revolutionists had that thought in their mind of impossible, should have raised a eyebrow, especially living in a country that was conceived out of a revolution (I live in the us, idk where you stay)

So to make it make sense, I can only point you towards the history of revolutions in the world to show you that it has happened and it is possible, and some as recent as the 20th century

In none of those revolutions did the sheer mass, numbers, dollars, and technological advantages exist as they do with 2016 North America. We not all getting in a trojan horse and storming a gate my man.

As i believe Chria Rock once pointed out, theres black people in like 5 states. Lol Exagerating, but it's real talk

I dont use the word possible/ impossible. 'Possible' is dreamer talk, bc u can say ANYTHING is technically possible.

I use the word feasible. No, its purely and unadulteratedly unfeasible to have a "revolution" in terms of the 15% overthrowing the 60%. Comically so!

And i have no fucks given being the bearer of bad news and any emotional IC misconceptions that may come with that.
 
S2J;8807840 said:
GabrielProsser;8807668 said:
S2J;8806239 said:
GabrielProsser;8806129 said:
S2J;8806045 said:
No, no, no, just no

You have to seperate idealism and fantasy vs reality

The reality is we are not creating a seprate set of rules, institutions, infrastructure, job market, etc completely from white people

I'd LOVE to! Its not happening, purely fron a numbers standpoint.

So you do not just quit and say fuck it, we gon take our ball and go like you gon create a Black Oscar. Well, there actually is a black oscar, its called the Image award. And black people don't give a fuck about it.

No black actor goes thru 8 years of school, does broadway, bust their ass, struggles to survive, to have the cap of what they can win an Image Award. You gotta stay on their ass. Thats what 'oscarsowhite' did *chris rock undecut that entire movemrnt, that's another topic*

Its purely delusional to say 'lets just make our own shit', and it comes from people who dont have to work in a NORMAL job setting where they have to coexist wih people outside of their race

Imagine if all of the revolutionist around the world even in the past held your view....it may be far from your site but it is not delusional to say lets make our own shit...how do you think this colony became its own country? They said fuck the queen

The elephant in the room before I personally can talk to anyone on this topic:

Are your pro equality and pro black empowerment---or are you anti white anything

Meaning, example, pro black =

I want as many black owners, execs, black coaches, and black quarterbacks as possible in the NFL.

Ok. Feasible. Lets get it

Anti-white ANYTHING = Lets secede and start a BNFL, that will play on BNBC, and and and be broadcast on black satellites, games played on a black owned island ...

Barack-Obama-Sleeping-on-the-Phone-83557-571x372.jpg


By all means, with the shit going on in this country i completely understand not wanting any white hands to touch anything we do. But my nigga...HOW?! Just saying it is great and will get you all the goats and ethers your heart desires but goats and ethers aint payin tha bills. HOW. Make it make sense...

Your asking me to solve the biggest issue facing blacks in America in one explanation...how do we get our own

Before I try to explain, do you believe it is impossible?

If you are a believer ,that it is impossible, then there is no need to have this conversation because you will believe It is impossible regardless of what i say

My statement of what if every revolutionists had that thought in their mind of impossible, should have raised a eyebrow, especially living in a country that was conceived out of a revolution (I live in the us, idk where you stay)

So to make it make sense, I can only point you towards the history of revolutions in the world to show you that it has happened and it is possible, and some as recent as the 20th century

In none of those revolutions did the sheer mass, numbers, dollars, and technological advantages exist as they do with 2016 North America. We not all getting in a trojan horse and storming a gate my man.

As i believe Chria Rock once pointed out, theres black people in like 5 states. Lol Exagerating, but it's real talk

I dont use the word possible/ impossible. 'Possible' is dreamer talk, bc u can say ANYTHING is technically possible.

I use the word feasible. No, its purely and unadulteratedly unfeasible to have a "revolution" in terms of the 15% overthrowing the 60%. Comically so!

And i have no fucks given being the bearer of bad news and any emotional IC misconceptions that may come with that.

All you had to say was that you are a believer in that it is impossible

My only issue with using feasible in this conversation is that it's not going to be possible to do with "ease" and "convenience" (words used to define feasible)to liberate ourselves, and that is another issue with us, and people in general, we have been so "comfortable" and life has been so "easy" that we don't want to be uncomfortable, even if it means accomplishing something great

What Harriet Tubman and many others did was not feasible, it may have been considered crazy at some points, they may have even had to sacrifice some things important to them, even people to get it done...
 

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