Changing America - What Does the Rise in Interracial Relationships Really Mean?

[Masterfultech]

both sides of the debate have good points

however, one thing that is for certain is interracial marriage will only increase

Agreed and the bolded is kind of what I'm getting at...

Instead of taking steps to fight this trend, we should take steps to ensure that the trend isn't harmful to our culture in the long run.

It's like instead of trying to stop earthquakes, it's better to build earthquake resistant structures.

i feel you on that

but i also believe that the US will become the "Anglo-Saxon Brazil" like zombie says; also i don't think you can compare AfrAms to Asians/Arabs/Latinos because they have their own nations that will preserve their cultures/go back to if they wish

I think the idea of American society coming to resemble Brazil is unlikely because the foundations of which contemporary Brazilian society is formed and that which American society is formed are too different. The Latin Americans that come here are going to be influenced more than they will do the influencing. I could be wrong though, time will tell.

At the bolded, this is absolutely true. In response I think Black people should be focused on strengthening our "Nation within the nation" to increase our own cultural identity, economic base, political capital etc. Our situation as a Diasporic people places us in an awkward position. It kind of ties back to the debate we had awhile ago about going back to Africa vs. staying here. Could we ever truly be at home in Africa vs. could we ever actually build anything meaningful here.

I can agree with all of this but i'm just saying that in no way does miscegenation help us as a people economically, or even culturally.

 

[zombie]

@zombie‌ and d. morgan

You both raised valid points and I believe I understand your points of view but answer me this:

If race mixing should be avoided because their off spring may renounce their Blackness and subscribe to white supremacy

And immigration from Latin American nations is a threat because the immigrants will contribute to our oppression by identifying as white and contributing to white supremacy

then shouldn't our efforts and energy be focused on thwarting white supremacy? Without white supremacy none of these things are a threat any longer. In the long run I'm not interested in which women niggas decide to bust inside of.

Race mixing is one of the condensations of white supremacy by fighting race mixing you fight white supremacy.

Nigga no it's not. The Klan or any other white supremacist group ain't out here advocating race mixing. White people are as alarmed by race mixing as you are because their birth rates are declining in part because of it.

My friend their are black white supremacist. The greatest battle against white supremacist is amongst black people. And when I say race mixing is the condensation of white supremacy I mean it's the result of all the affects white supremacy has on the minds of black people. It's basically cultural suicide.

I'll concede that if an entire generation were to have their offspring with another race then it would be cultural suicide, but at the moment we're talking about roughly 4% according to the last census. Asian - Americans are marrying whites at a muuuuuuuch higher rate. It's hardly worthy of too much attention IMO

I said cultural genocide not physical it could be less than 4% all that is needed for cultural genocide is enough blacks to give up the idea of being black and embrace this mixed identity.

There have been whole books and documentaries made about yellow fever. It gets lots of attention just not from blacks

Nooo it takes way more than 4% for cultural genocide. Like I said somewhere around of 30% of Asian born americans marry whites..they maintain their heritage and cultural ties just fine. Even the white-washed ones will still be able to tell you the basics about their ancestry. Most of them even take at least one trip in their lifetime to their ancestral homelands.

If we had a stronger cultural identity than race mixing would be a complete non-issue. We don't so it makes us vulnerable in more ways than one. I think the answer is to develop a stronger cultural identity.

I think you are somewhat looking at the problem short term though.

Out of that 30% asians who marry white how many of those mixed kids marry white also?

Same with that 4% of black people how many those mixed kids will marry non-black people?

That along with that 4% is the large scale problem. The continuation of marrying non-black people and producing children who will do the same and most will have no alligence to their black side down the line.

Our cultural is already not being taught in schools now in the home it is being split between both parents. That shit doesn't help us a people.

I think it's more likely that a child that's mixed with Black and white will themselves reproduce with a Black person than it is for a person that's mixed Asian and white to reproduce with an Asian. Like I said as of TODAY the one drop rule is strong as ever and there's not really evidence that it's weakening or going anywhere.

"Half a nigger is a nigger" as it was in the 1800s it is in 2015.

That is not true actually look at the history for what it is and not mythology. Mulatto never occupied quite the same position as full blacks

 

[Stiff]

@zombie‌ and d. morgan

You both raised valid points and I believe I understand your points of view but answer me this:

If race mixing should be avoided because their off spring may renounce their Blackness and subscribe to white supremacy

And immigration from Latin American nations is a threat because the immigrants will contribute to our oppression by identifying as white and contributing to white supremacy

then shouldn't our efforts and energy be focused on thwarting white supremacy? Without white supremacy none of these things are a threat any longer. In the long run I'm not interested in which women niggas decide to bust inside of.

Race mixing is one of the condensations of white supremacy by fighting race mixing you fight white supremacy.

Nigga no it's not. The Klan or any other white supremacist group ain't out here advocating race mixing. White people are as alarmed by race mixing as you are because their birth rates are declining in part because of it.

My friend their are black white supremacist. The greatest battle against white supremacist is amongst black people. And when I say race mixing is the condensation of white supremacy I mean it's the result of all the affects white supremacy has on the minds of black people. It's basically cultural suicide.

I'll concede that if an entire generation were to have their offspring with another race then it would be cultural suicide, but at the moment we're talking about roughly 4% according to the last census. Asian - Americans are marrying whites at a muuuuuuuch higher rate. It's hardly worthy of too much attention IMO

I said cultural genocide not physical it could be less than 4% all that is needed for cultural genocide is enough blacks to give up the idea of being black and embrace this mixed identity.

There have been whole books and documentaries made about yellow fever. It gets lots of attention just not from blacks

Nooo it takes way more than 4% for cultural genocide. Like I said somewhere around of 30% of Asian born americans marry whites..they maintain their heritage and cultural ties just fine. Even the white-washed ones will still be able to tell you the basics about their ancestry. Most of them even take at least one trip in their lifetime to their ancestral homelands.

If we had a stronger cultural identity than race mixing would be a complete non-issue. We don't so it makes us vulnerable in more ways than one. I think the answer is to develop a stronger cultural identity.

I think you are somewhat looking at the problem short term though.

Out of that 30% asians who marry white how many of those mixed kids marry white also?

Same with that 4% of black people how many those mixed kids will marry non-black people?

That along with that 4% is the large scale problem. The continuation of marrying non-black people and producing children who will do the same and most will have no alligence to their black side down the line.

Our cultural is already not being taught in schools now in the home it is being split between both parents. That shit doesn't help us a people.

I think it's more likely that a child that's mixed with Black and white will themselves reproduce with a Black person than it is for a person that's mixed Asian and white to reproduce with an Asian. Like I said as of TODAY the one drop rule is strong as ever and there's not really evidence that it's weakening or going anywhere.

"Half a nigger is a nigger" as it was in the 1800s it is in 2015.

That is not true actually look at the history for what it is and not mythology. Mulatto never occupied quite the same position as full blacks

In America from Emancipation all the way until today mulattoes have never been any higher than full Blacks in the eyes of society. When they said one drop they meant that.

Now during Slavery? Sure there was a hierarchy but the end of slavery made that particular hierarchy obsolete. Jamaica had a different scenario than America.

 

[Stiff]

both sides of the debate have good points

however, one thing that is for certain is interracial marriage will only increase

Agreed and the bolded is kind of what I'm getting at...

Instead of taking steps to fight this trend, we should take steps to ensure that the trend isn't harmful to our culture in the long run.

It's like instead of trying to stop earthquakes, it's better to build earthquake resistant structures.

i feel you on that

but i also believe that the US will become the "Anglo-Saxon Brazil" like zombie says; also i don't think you can compare AfrAms to Asians/Arabs/Latinos because they have their own nations that will preserve their cultures/go back to if they wish

I think the idea of American society coming to resemble Brazil is unlikely because the foundations of which contemporary Brazilian society is formed and that which American society is formed are too different. The Latin Americans that come here are going to be influenced more than they will do the influencing. I could be wrong though, time will tell.

At the bolded, this is absolutely true. In response I think Black people should be focused on strengthening our "Nation within the nation" to increase our own cultural identity, economic base, political capital etc. Our situation as a Diasporic people places us in an awkward position. It kind of ties back to the debate we had awhile ago about going back to Africa vs. staying here. Could we ever truly be at home in Africa vs. could we ever actually build anything meaningful here.

I can agree with all of this but i'm just saying that in no way does miscegenation help us as a people economically, or even culturally.

Nah I'm not arguing that it helps. I'm just saying I don't think it's an issue. Based on the perspectives that y'all offered I think it exposes some vulnerabilities, but those vulnerabilities should be more of the concern than race mixing itself.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

both sides of the debate have good points

however, one thing that is for certain is interracial marriage will only increase

Agreed and the bolded is kind of what I'm getting at...

Instead of taking steps to fight this trend, we should take steps to ensure that the trend isn't harmful to our culture in the long run.

It's like instead of trying to stop earthquakes, it's better to build earthquake resistant structures.

i feel you on that

but i also believe that the US will become the "Anglo-Saxon Brazil" like zombie says; also i don't think you can compare AfrAms to Asians/Arabs/Latinos because they have their own nations that will preserve their cultures/go back to if they wish

I think the idea of American society coming to resemble Brazil is unlikely because the foundations of which contemporary Brazilian society is formed and that which American society is formed are too different. The Latin Americans that come here are going to be influenced more than they will do the influencing. I could be wrong though, time will tell.

At the bolded, this is absolutely true. In response I think Black people should be focused on strengthening our "Nation within the nation" to increase our own cultural identity, economic base, political capital etc. Our situation as a Diasporic people places us in an awkward position. It kind of ties back to the debate we had awhile ago about going back to Africa vs. staying here. Could we ever truly be at home in Africa vs. could we ever actually build anything meaningful here.

the only difference between Brazil and US racially is that over there (and throughout Latin America) race is a continuum and here there's a stricter hierarchy, the US has historically been a either white/black nation; interracial marriage and Hispanic/Asian immigration will lowkey eventually lead to an "American" ethnicity or "race"; it wont happen in our lifetimes but 100/150 years from now i think US will be filled with Adriana Lima types with dar skinned blacks/others at the bottom and Jews and whites at the top

i'm starting to think that the best case scenario would be the establishment of a "black" commonwealth in association of the United States (with Puerto Rico as the model) somewhere in the continental US; or immigration to black majority nations (DR, Haiti, the English-speaking Caribbean, or West/Central Africa). unless the black population grows substantially in the US i believe these are are options outside complete assimilation into white America

 

[Masterfultech]

@zombie‌ and d. morgan

You both raised valid points and I believe I understand your points of view but answer me this:

If race mixing should be avoided because their off spring may renounce their Blackness and subscribe to white supremacy

And immigration from Latin American nations is a threat because the immigrants will contribute to our oppression by identifying as white and contributing to white supremacy

then shouldn't our efforts and energy be focused on thwarting white supremacy? Without white supremacy none of these things are a threat any longer. In the long run I'm not interested in which women niggas decide to bust inside of.

Race mixing is one of the condensations of white supremacy by fighting race mixing you fight white supremacy.

Nigga no it's not. The Klan or any other white supremacist group ain't out here advocating race mixing. White people are as alarmed by race mixing as you are because their birth rates are declining in part because of it.

My friend their are black white supremacist. The greatest battle against white supremacist is amongst black people. And when I say race mixing is the condensation of white supremacy I mean it's the result of all the affects white supremacy has on the minds of black people. It's basically cultural suicide.

I'll concede that if an entire generation were to have their offspring with another race then it would be cultural suicide, but at the moment we're talking about roughly 4% according to the last census. Asian - Americans are marrying whites at a muuuuuuuch higher rate. It's hardly worthy of too much attention IMO

I said cultural genocide not physical it could be less than 4% all that is needed for cultural genocide is enough blacks to give up the idea of being black and embrace this mixed identity.

There have been whole books and documentaries made about yellow fever. It gets lots of attention just not from blacks

Nooo it takes way more than 4% for cultural genocide. Like I said somewhere around of 30% of Asian born americans marry whites..they maintain their heritage and cultural ties just fine. Even the white-washed ones will still be able to tell you the basics about their ancestry. Most of them even take at least one trip in their lifetime to their ancestral homelands.

If we had a stronger cultural identity than race mixing would be a complete non-issue. We don't so it makes us vulnerable in more ways than one. I think the answer is to develop a stronger cultural identity.

I think you are somewhat looking at the problem short term though.

Out of that 30% asians who marry white how many of those mixed kids marry white also?

Same with that 4% of black people how many those mixed kids will marry non-black people?

That along with that 4% is the large scale problem. The continuation of marrying non-black people and producing children who will do the same and most will have no alligence to their black side down the line.

Our cultural is already not being taught in schools now in the home it is being split between both parents. That shit doesn't help us a people.

I think it's more likely that a child that's mixed with Black and white will themselves reproduce with a Black person than it is for a person that's mixed Asian and white to reproduce with an Asian. Like I said as of TODAY the one drop rule is strong as ever and there's not really evidence that it's weakening or going anywhere.

"Half a nigger is a nigger" as it was in the 1800s it is in 2015.

That is not true actually look at the history for what it is and not mythology. Mulatto never occupied quite the same position as full blacks

In America from Emancipation all the way until today mulattoes have never been any higher than full Blacks in the eyes of society. When they said one drop they meant that.

Now during Slavery? Sure there was a hierarchy but the end of slavery made that particular hierarchy obsolete. Jamaica had a different scenario than America.

You really believe that? Because statistically & economically they have the advantage, hell they can even assimilate better in the eyes of eurocentric society.

 

[Shuffington]

both sides of the debate have good points

however, one thing that is for certain is interracial marriage will only increase

Agreed and the bolded is kind of what I'm getting at...

Instead of taking steps to fight this trend, we should take steps to ensure that the trend isn't harmful to our culture in the long run.

It's like instead of trying to stop earthquakes, it's better to build earthquake resistant structures.

i feel you on that

but i also believe that the US will become the "Anglo-Saxon Brazil" like zombie says; also i don't think you can compare AfrAms to Asians/Arabs/Latinos because they have their own nations that will preserve their cultures/go back to if they wish

I don't see that happening in the US.

in Brazil there was a big Country wide push to blatantly ignore the differences in race and the large African influence while simultaneously "whitening" up the country with European Immigration in an effort to push a multicultural equal opportunity agenda. It was seen as slap in the face to even assume that racial discrimination was prevalent.

Here in America …. we aint trying to hear that post racial society sh*t … And we never will..IMHO. The civil rights movement built such a large legacy for us. We discuss race everyday and within these last few years I'm seeing more of a black cultural awakening. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see this happening in other countries in a such a large scale.

 

[zombie]

Why are people acting like Brazil is mars

 

[Darth Sidious]

@zombie‌ and d. morgan

You both raised valid points and I believe I understand your points of view but answer me this:

If race mixing should be avoided because their off spring may renounce their Blackness and subscribe to white supremacy

And immigration from Latin American nations is a threat because the immigrants will contribute to our oppression by identifying as white and contributing to white supremacy

then shouldn't our efforts and energy be focused on thwarting white supremacy? Without white supremacy none of these things are a threat any longer. In the long run I'm not interested in which women niggas decide to bust inside of.

Race mixing is one of the condensations of white supremacy by fighting race mixing you fight white supremacy.

Nigga no it's not. The Klan or any other white supremacist group ain't out here advocating race mixing. White people are as alarmed by race mixing as you are because their birth rates are declining in part because of it.

My friend their are black white supremacist. The greatest battle against white supremacist is amongst black people. And when I say race mixing is the condensation of white supremacy I mean it's the result of all the affects white supremacy has on the minds of black people. It's basically cultural suicide.

I'll concede that if an entire generation were to have their offspring with another race then it would be cultural suicide, but at the moment we're talking about roughly 4% according to the last census. Asian - Americans are marrying whites at a muuuuuuuch higher rate. It's hardly worthy of too much attention IMO

I said cultural genocide not physical it could be less than 4% all that is needed for cultural genocide is enough blacks to give up the idea of being black and embrace this mixed identity.

There have been whole books and documentaries made about yellow fever. It gets lots of attention just not from blacks

Nooo it takes way more than 4% for cultural genocide. Like I said somewhere around of 30% of Asian born americans marry whites..they maintain their heritage and cultural ties just fine. Even the white-washed ones will still be able to tell you the basics about their ancestry. Most of them even take at least one trip in their lifetime to their ancestral homelands.

If we had a stronger cultural identity than race mixing would be a complete non-issue. We don't so it makes us vulnerable in more ways than one. I think the answer is to develop a stronger cultural identity.

I think you are somewhat looking at the problem short term though.

Out of that 30% asians who marry white how many of those mixed kids marry white also?

Same with that 4% of black people how many those mixed kids will marry non-black people?

That along with that 4% is the large scale problem. The continuation of marrying non-black people and producing children who will do the same and most will have no alligence to their black side down the line.

Our cultural is already not being taught in schools now in the home it is being split between both parents. That shit doesn't help us a people.

I think it's more likely that a child that's mixed with Black and white will themselves reproduce with a Black person than it is for a person that's mixed Asian and white to reproduce with an Asian. Like I said as of TODAY the one drop rule is strong as ever and there's not really evidence that it's weakening or going anywhere.

"Half a nigger is a nigger" as it was in the 1800s it is in 2015.

That is not true actually look at the history for what it is and not mythology. Mulatto never occupied quite the same position as full blacks

In America from Emancipation all the way until today mulattoes have never been any higher than full Blacks in the eyes of society. When they said one drop they meant that.

Now during Slavery? Sure there was a hierarchy but the end of slavery made that particular hierarchy obsolete. Jamaica had a different scenario than America.

You really believe that? Because statistically & economically they have the advantage, hell they can even assimilate better in the eyes of eurocentric society.

Are people forgetting here the most powerful guy in the US is 'bi-racial'?

 

[zombie]

@zombie‌ and d. morgan

You both raised valid points and I believe I understand your points of view but answer me this:

If race mixing should be avoided because their off spring may renounce their Blackness and subscribe to white supremacy

And immigration from Latin American nations is a threat because the immigrants will contribute to our oppression by identifying as white and contributing to white supremacy

then shouldn't our efforts and energy be focused on thwarting white supremacy? Without white supremacy none of these things are a threat any longer. In the long run I'm not interested in which women niggas decide to bust inside of.

Race mixing is one of the condensations of white supremacy by fighting race mixing you fight white supremacy.

Nigga no it's not. The Klan or any other white supremacist group ain't out here advocating race mixing. White people are as alarmed by race mixing as you are because their birth rates are declining in part because of it.

My friend their are black white supremacist. The greatest battle against white supremacist is amongst black people. And when I say race mixing is the condensation of white supremacy I mean it's the result of all the affects white supremacy has on the minds of black people. It's basically cultural suicide.

I'll concede that if an entire generation were to have their offspring with another race then it would be cultural suicide, but at the moment we're talking about roughly 4% according to the last census. Asian - Americans are marrying whites at a muuuuuuuch higher rate. It's hardly worthy of too much attention IMO

I said cultural genocide not physical it could be less than 4% all that is needed for cultural genocide is enough blacks to give up the idea of being black and embrace this mixed identity.

There have been whole books and documentaries made about yellow fever. It gets lots of attention just not from blacks

Nooo it takes way more than 4% for cultural genocide. Like I said somewhere around of 30% of Asian born americans marry whites..they maintain their heritage and cultural ties just fine. Even the white-washed ones will still be able to tell you the basics about their ancestry. Most of them even take at least one trip in their lifetime to their ancestral homelands.

If we had a stronger cultural identity than race mixing would be a complete non-issue. We don't so it makes us vulnerable in more ways than one. I think the answer is to develop a stronger cultural identity.

I think you are somewhat looking at the problem short term though.

Out of that 30% asians who marry white how many of those mixed kids marry white also?

Same with that 4% of black people how many those mixed kids will marry non-black people?

That along with that 4% is the large scale problem. The continuation of marrying non-black people and producing children who will do the same and most will have no alligence to their black side down the line.

Our cultural is already not being taught in schools now in the home it is being split between both parents. That shit doesn't help us a people.

I think it's more likely that a child that's mixed with Black and white will themselves reproduce with a Black person than it is for a person that's mixed Asian and white to reproduce with an Asian. Like I said as of TODAY the one drop rule is strong as ever and there's not really evidence that it's weakening or going anywhere.

"Half a nigger is a nigger" as it was in the 1800s it is in 2015.

That is not true actually look at the history for what it is and not mythology. Mulatto never occupied quite the same position as full blacks

In America from Emancipation all the way until today mulattoes have never been any higher than full Blacks in the eyes of society. When they said one drop they meant that.

Now during Slavery? Sure there was a hierarchy but the end of slavery made that particular hierarchy obsolete. Jamaica had a different scenario than America.

You really believe that? Because statistically & economically they have the advantage, hell they can even assimilate better in the eyes of eurocentric society.

Are people forgetting here the most powerful guy in the US is 'bi-racial'?

And he has helped our black ass how exactly structural anti black racism is still here. Blacks took more LLL's under him than bush. No one man is fixing this shit

 

[Darth Sidious]

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/08/obama-im-not-the-president-of-black-america-131351.html

How do you respond to criticism that your administration hasn’t done enough to support black businesses?

(President Obama) My general view has been consistent throughout, which is that I want all businesses to succeed. I want all Americans to have opportunity. I’m not the president of black America. I’m the president of the United States of America, but the programs that we have put in place have been directed at those folks who are least able to get financing through conventional means, who have been in the past locked out of opportunities that were available to everybody. So, I’ll put my track record up against anybody in terms of us putting in place broad-based programs that ultimately had a huge benefit for African American businesses.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

both sides of the debate have good points

however, one thing that is for certain is interracial marriage will only increase

Agreed and the bolded is kind of what I'm getting at...

Instead of taking steps to fight this trend, we should take steps to ensure that the trend isn't harmful to our culture in the long run.

It's like instead of trying to stop earthquakes, it's better to build earthquake resistant structures.

i feel you on that

but i also believe that the US will become the "Anglo-Saxon Brazil" like zombie says; also i don't think you can compare AfrAms to Asians/Arabs/Latinos because they have their own nations that will preserve their cultures/go back to if they wish

I don't see that happening in the US.

in Brazil there was a big Country wide push to blatantly ignore the differences in race and the large African influence while simultaneously "whitening" up the country with European Immigration in an effort to push a multicultural equal opportunity agenda. It was seen as slap in the face to even assume that racial discrimination was prevalent.

Here in America …. we aint trying to hear that post racial society sh*t … And we never will..IMHO. The civil rights movement built such a large legacy for us. We discuss race everyday and within these last few years I'm seeing more of a black cultural awakening. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see this happening in other countries in a such a large scale.

You don't think that it cant happen here? Whites will eventually absorb the Asian and white latino populations leaving dark skinned Asians/Latinos/blacks at the bottom which is essentially Brazil. As blacks' numerical/political power lessen over the next century, you'll see the continued pushing of this "post racial" nonsense. Whether "we" as blacks accept the concept of "post racial america" is irrelevant because we dont hold power.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Also eleven pages in im suprised no one brought up gender. Personally i think it makes a difference if the one marrying an out group is the male or female

 

[zombie]

The best thing any president can do for business is stay out of it. What this

President should have done if he wanted to help blacks is end the fucking drug war.

 

[blackrain]

Some of y'all really don't get that IR marriages ain't as big as you think. Way some of y'all talk IR marriages make up half of black marriages. Paranoia got y'all ignoring basic numbers and common sense

 

[PapaDoc223]

The best thing is each one teach one. What that is if you have a biracial child educate them about black history. Teach them about nubia,Ethiopia ,black egyptian pharaohs,the various black empires in africa,black freedom fighters,black inventors,Marcus Garvey,Toussaint Louverture. In other words teach that having african ancestry is not a curse. Show them being black is something to be proud of.

 

[zombie]

Some of y'all really don't get that IR marriages ain't as big as you think. Way some of y'all talk IR marriages make up half of black marriages. Paranoia got y'all ignoring basic numbers and common sense

That's like saying a little bit of cancer is not that big of a deal.

 

[zombie]

The best thing is each one teach one. What that is if you have a biracial child educate them about black history. Teach them about nubia,Ethiopia ,black egyptian pharaohs,the various black empires in africa,black freedom fighters,black inventors,Marcus Garvey,Toussaint Louverture. In other words teach that having african ancestry is not a curse. Show them being black is something to be proud of.

The best thing to do is not to have a biracial child in the first fucking place because while you teach them all the things you advise society will teach them otherwise and society is often more powerful.

 

[Ajackson17]

@zombie‌ and d. morgan

You both raised valid points and I believe I understand your points of view but answer me this:

If race mixing should be avoided because their off spring may renounce their Blackness and subscribe to white supremacy

And immigration from Latin American nations is a threat because the immigrants will contribute to our oppression by identifying as white and contributing to white supremacy

then shouldn't our efforts and energy be focused on thwarting white supremacy? Without white supremacy none of these things are a threat any longer. In the long run I'm not interested in which women niggas decide to bust inside of.

@Oya_Husband‌ I want your thoughts on this too

My thoughts is this, we are in a cultural war which entitles our way of life dealing with every aspect and in order for us to win this we need to be together united. Black families equal black strength. When we had this going we were fighting the civil rights and the civil war fighting for black families. Desiring white women in droves stems from a forbidden fruit that was unattainable and now we have it we forfeited a lot of women and thinking every problem that we even exhibit is due to them not standing up to the greatness of perceived white beauty structure. In reality a lot of black men don't really truly love white women, but what they represent and are perceived to be.

Hence why Black men and White women divorced more than any grouping in America cause usually a well off black man with a white woman who doesn't come from a good family usually wants this black man and it boosts her not him. Even Asian women, it's not the high class asian woman but the usually the lower class who gets with the black man, we think he is doing it, but he is not breaking even when there are black women who are at his level and he is not willing to deal with them due to perceive notions of superiority of these women possess.

 

[Darth Sidious]

The best thing any president can do for business is stay out of it. What this

President should have done if he wanted to help blacks is end the fucking drug war.

I am not in favor of letting biz do whatever the fuck the they want -- see financial meltdown 2008.

I am in favor of responsibly ending the war on drugs and that should start with pot. One or two states have sued the state of Colorado and or Federal Govt for ending pot prohibition so you could say that Obama is tacitly giving the ok to pot legalization by not having the fed govt go after WA or CO ( which he could do with a phone call..trust me that would chill the whole industry with one big raid )