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Crip and Bloods got so big who's to say who is real or fake tho?
Not everybody could be parts of the original sets ... sometimes you considered a member cuz your from a hood that is blood or crip ....
How many innocent people got shot being around the wrong people
Now that you say that name some names not just general statements?
Not everybody could be parts of the original sets ... sometimes you considered a member cuz your from a hood that is blood or crip ....
How many innocent people got shot being around the wrong people
Now that you say that name some names not just general statements?
Splackavelli
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TheGOAT;c-9930680 said:StoneColdMikey;c-9930628 said:Cliff notes before people go off and don't understand what he's saying
He said on rappers being themselves behind the mic...
"The fact that it's able to be a main stage or mainstream image, and accepted and celebrated is because of folks like Kanye," said Chance. "[He] came in the game and was like 'This is who I am, and these are the type of things that I love, and I'm excited about them, and I don't necessarily have to carry myself as anybody that I'm not.' And people picked up on it."...
"There's always been a quiet conversation and joke that if you're not hard, if you're not from impoverished neighborhoods, if you're not certain constructs of a black stereotype, then you not black," he explained. "Niggas kinda ran with that in the '90s I think, and that's why there were so many fabricated hood niggas. But now, a lot of black people have a lot more pride in being who they are, and understanding that is part of the black experience, is living and being who you are. I think it's more accepted on the main stage."
http://www.complex.com/music/2017/08/chance-the-rapper-talks-90s-kanye-west
i can get with that and lets lose the 90's mentality. the 90's are the new70's
Kwan Dai;c-9930739 said:SELASI_i;c-9930708 said:Its true and it was a gimmick in the 90s. People like "Boss" "Vanilla Ice" were exposed for lying about their past, and even to a lesser extent "Ice Cube" "Dr Dre" were called fake. On the flipside it created the "when keeping it real goes wrong mentality" to where you had underground rappers getting indicted and incriminating themselves for rapping about active investigations
That's two artist neither of which were taken seriously. And in Vanilla ice's case he was being clowned well before mainstream media decided to expose him.
In both Cube and Dre's case did they embellish? Perhaps.
What we do know is, they grew up in neighborhoods where everything they spoke about in their music was truth. More importantly it was just as true to Blacks across America who grew up under similar circumstances. Also, being a fan I never thought Cube or Dre were REAL gangters. They were very, very good artists who were able to capture the essence and truth of there communities and they personified these things in their music.
Those were just general examples but what is a real gangster? That definition is relative. Boss the female rapper was taken serious up until she was exposed too.
metal face terrorist
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Base off Vlad interviews, it's seems like them 90s niggas really got busy. Imo the fabrication really started with the Bling Bling era.
genocidecutter
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He's right
double0suge
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Damn kanye the first name he could come up with?
32DaysOfInfiniti
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He's generalizing. While they may not have been killing niggas they were really from that sect of life.
These days we dont even know what these niggas talking about cept that its violent and drugs. Groups like the Migos come from Gwinnett where yeah there are tough people out there, but thats because they want to be not because they were raised like that. Like kids in Stone Mountain with two parents and a nice house selling drugs and carrying guns, they fabricate their life and their music career. Not to mention the sheer ignorance that rappers exude today vs. the clarity and story telling of back then.
Rappers were a lot more hungry in the 90's, and its impossible to know all the dirt they did because they werent going live on Facebook.
Everything about rappers today is fraudulent, incoherent and truncated versions of what they think they are supposed to be. Chance and Tyler the Creator and other niggas like them may be unique but they are the minority.
We had Tribe, Kast, Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, Brand Nubian, not to mention all the commercial rappers who were just on some good time shit...
Is it possible that people in general were just a lot tougher in the 90s and that being yourself was embracing the street element? Just like in basketball, Michael Jordan would still dominate in today's league because he had a warrior mindset, a go hard or go home mentality that is missing in most of the young, and that nigga was from the burbs of Carolina from a good family...
Niggas these days just more soft and concerned about their image, its not that people back then were afraid to be themselves, they just had different priorities.
"Those were the days. And you knew who you were then. Girls were girls and men were men"
These days we dont even know what these niggas talking about cept that its violent and drugs. Groups like the Migos come from Gwinnett where yeah there are tough people out there, but thats because they want to be not because they were raised like that. Like kids in Stone Mountain with two parents and a nice house selling drugs and carrying guns, they fabricate their life and their music career. Not to mention the sheer ignorance that rappers exude today vs. the clarity and story telling of back then.
Rappers were a lot more hungry in the 90's, and its impossible to know all the dirt they did because they werent going live on Facebook.
Everything about rappers today is fraudulent, incoherent and truncated versions of what they think they are supposed to be. Chance and Tyler the Creator and other niggas like them may be unique but they are the minority.
We had Tribe, Kast, Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, Brand Nubian, not to mention all the commercial rappers who were just on some good time shit...
Is it possible that people in general were just a lot tougher in the 90s and that being yourself was embracing the street element? Just like in basketball, Michael Jordan would still dominate in today's league because he had a warrior mindset, a go hard or go home mentality that is missing in most of the young, and that nigga was from the burbs of Carolina from a good family...
Niggas these days just more soft and concerned about their image, its not that people back then were afraid to be themselves, they just had different priorities.
"Those were the days. And you knew who you were then. Girls were girls and men were men"
TheGOAT;c-9930680 said:StoneColdMikey;c-9930628 said:Cliff notes before people go off and don't understand what he's saying
He said on rappers being themselves behind the mic...
"The fact that it's able to be a main stage or mainstream image, and accepted and celebrated is because of folks like Kanye," said Chance. "[He] came in the game and was like 'This is who I am, and these are the type of things that I love, and I'm excited about them, and I don't necessarily have to carry myself as anybody that I'm not.' And people picked up on it."...
"There's always been a quiet conversation and joke that if you're not hard, if you're not from impoverished neighborhoods, if you're not certain constructs of a black stereotype, then you not black," he explained. "Niggas kinda ran with that in the '90s I think, and that's why there were so many fabricated hood niggas. But now, a lot of black people have a lot more pride in being who they are, and understanding that is part of the black experience, is living and being who you are. I think it's more accepted on the main stage."
http://www.complex.com/music/2017/08/chance-the-rapper-talks-90s-kanye-west
He right... u got drake wale ColeKendrick all different types of emotional niggas who don't fit the 90s gangsta ingnant nigga. U had exceptions back then but if u were perceived as soft it was an issue
StreetRap;c-9930821 said:all rappers are fabricated of course they put their best foot forward
you see them with all the women,cars and manchines and they barely got their first 360 deal..
They are the biggest pimps they don't show when they get rejected by that ugly girl
when their friends turn on them, when they got punked by a midget, beat up by some feminine dude ..
when they got jacked for some weed and money by their freinds .. getting chumped by them gangsta black kids that look up to the rappers he criticize .....
No basically they make him look perfect like he wouldn't hurt a fly cuz that's what's popular now
He doesn't make mistakes he is mr. perfect ... they girls cheer his name out ... he is considered super kool ...
that's more fabricated cuz you don't really here dirt on him
atleast other rappers you see they got humble by being beat up on video clip .. you see them get clowed and banned from cities .... you see them get punked ..... shot .... black balled ... for being themselves ... get chocked and thrown around ... I don't like to see that but atleast it shows that life is real and rappers are vulnerable
in other words you don't always see rappers looking perfect you see them messed up getting shunned taking L's in beefs and bouncing back like Meek ... shit like that makes the rap game more realistic.
The 90's rappers don't talk about them cuz most people don't have the courage to carry themselves like the 90's rappers. Yeah they talked shit they could never do but the point was they was hardcore that's not fabricated
Don't not 1 rapper live everything he says or his raps would be boring, your job is to entertain but them 90's rappers were bout that life ... stop thinking they are fabricated just cuz they didn't act out every rhyme
yes they were gangsta but no one can out gangsta the streets if they did they would be dead in a year they have rap careers to live for they have to take care of themselves .... Rap helped them so they wouldn't end up dead the love to rhyme you can't rap if your dead or in prison ...
smh,it's Mansions
blackgod813
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He just soft an a lgb fan bisexual men at least had the decency of keepin in the closet..chance was at a club back room sucking dick at the in the back room while we was on molly
Peezy_Jenkins
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In b4 this become a "back in my day" thread
fortyacres
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Tupac was fabricated but y'all gave him a pass
Peezy_Jenkins;c-9931534 said:In b4 this become a "back in my day" thread
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metal face terrorist;c-9931060 said:Base off Vlad interviews, it's seems like them 90s niggas really got busy. Imo the fabrication really started with the Bling Bling era.
Nah there was alot of niggas in the 90's who rapped about street shit that had never been in the streets a day in their life, but because it was selling that's what they went with. Yeah there were some niggas who really were dope boys or gangsta niggas turned rappers, but there was plenty who were just making up what they rapped about or talking about niggas they grew up around and not actually their own lives.
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14
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The #1 issue with my generation is their lack of knowledge of the past. Chance is showing this issue with his point of view. You had the whole fucking Zulu Nation movement back in the 90s. Sure many rappers were under a phony image. However you had conscious afrocentric rap back then.
Shit Kanye would have never been Kanye without Q-Tip who infamously stars Low End Theory about how shit goes in cycles. While i have liked chances music he has really started to get on my nerves with his modern persona. First he bullied mtv to remove an unfavorable concert review. Then he tries to make himself out to be "indy" when apple is giving him the bag (see @GetoBoy i do call out apple music). Now this nigga is making blanket statements about the 90s and Kanye post 90s not knowing afrocentric rap from that era inspired Kanye.
Shit Kanye would have never been Kanye without Q-Tip who infamously stars Low End Theory about how shit goes in cycles. While i have liked chances music he has really started to get on my nerves with his modern persona. First he bullied mtv to remove an unfavorable concert review. Then he tries to make himself out to be "indy" when apple is giving him the bag (see @GetoBoy i do call out apple music). Now this nigga is making blanket statements about the 90s and Kanye post 90s not knowing afrocentric rap from that era inspired Kanye.
