Carmen speaks: She gave Nas the "ether" for Jay Z

[qawshun]

them two niggas went at it alot

"Lex with TV sets the minimum" - Nas 96

"You held it down long enough, let me take those reigns

And just like your spirit the Commission remain

I’m the focal, point like Biggie in his prime

On the low though, shhhhh, the city is mine" - Jay 97

"It used to be fun makin records to see your response

But now competition is none now that youre gone

And these niggas is wrong using your name in vain

And they claim to be New York’s king" - Nas 98/99

"You make hot songs, but she know you steal from me

Who ill as me?

I wild on haters in album three" - NAS 99

"S dot Carter turn rappers into martyrs

Separate fathers from their daughters why bother

I'm a crook like you, I took like you

I disobeyed the law threw out the book like you

How dare you look at Jigga like I'm shook like who" - Jay 99

"Round here fronting

LIKE my shit dont sound LIKE nothing

LIKE I aint got the crown or something

LIKE I aint the nigga you based your life on

I guess I aint the reason you got that ice on

LIKE I aint 5 mil and what did your joint go?

Excuse me nigga don’t confuse me

I ain’t one of you rappers who got a deal

I’m one of the few niggas spitting it that got it for real

And even if you hating gotta knock it in your wheels

And the day that I stop it, ILL" - Jay 99

"You wanna ball till you fall I can help you with that

You want beef I could let a slug melt in your hat" - Nas 99

"Your false crown covered in dirt Defeated

Y’all niggas all hail the King is dead

He running like a bitch with his tail between his legs

Stillmatic still Eye for an Eye

You wanna be God

You’re just the next rapper to die Fucking with Nas" - Nas 2000

Is That Yo Bitch - Jay2000

"I done came up, and fuck bringin your name up

It's beef I'mma see you, and bang til you hang up

Your life a lie, but here's the truth

You ain't hype to die, but you hype to shoot

" And only a few fit in, your lifestyle's written

So who you supposed to be play your position" - Bleek 2000

"Oh you didnt Wanna know whose life Was Written

The life I’m livin The ice the women "

"your whole crew’s coffin bound

Your hoe, your man, lieutenant, your boss get found" - Nas 2001

Roc-A-Fella hot 97 freestyle - Roc 2001

"Rip the FREEWAY

shoot through MEMPHIS with Money Bags

Stop in Philly order cheese steaks and eat BEANS fast

And bring it back up top, remove the fake king of New York

You show off I count dough off when you sample my voice

I rule you, before, you used to rap like the FU-SHNICKENS/NAS designed your BLUEPRINT, who you kidding?

Is he H TO THE IZZO, M TO THE IZZO?

For shizzle you phony, the rapper version of SISQO

And that’s for certain, you clone me, your wack clothes line I’d rather Sean John

bore me with your fake coke rhymes And those times they never took place, you liar

Un was your first court case, you had no priors

You master fabricated stories of streets and sound slick

Have you surrounded, you and the faggots you down with

Why they riding NAS, trying to boost their careers - Nas 2001

Takeover - Jay 2001

Ether - Nas 2001

Supa Ugly - Jay 2001

"Right in they fat mouth then I carve my name

Nas too real Nas true king

It's however you feel, go head, you swing

Your arms too short to box with God

I don't kill soloists only kill squads

Fame went to they head, so now it's "Fuck Nas"

Yesterday you begged for a deal, today you tough guy"

"I spotted my enemies tryna do what I do

Came in with my style, so I fathered you"

"Now you wanna hang with niggas I hung with Fuck bitches I hit" - Nas 2001

You gettin' too big for ya britches

You fuckin' wit' a dude that did it wit' digits

Breathing's a privilege

Don't you know when you're defeated?

Won't you though? Throw in the towel

I'm better with vowels - Jay 2001

"Now slowly, thinkin of all the things that oppose me

I think of kings who died and rappers out to dethrone me

For they crown they head is cut off, bodies is laid Dead in the street" - Nas 2002

"We mastered this, don't you know

I eat Ether and breathe acid, weak bastards" - Jay 2002

Blueprint 2 - Jay 2002

Last Real Nigga Alive - Nas 2002

"you wanna spar with me

I'll put you down in the grass

its the God MC Young V-I-T-O

Young'n you are my hijo

My son dula

I clean the cesspool up

Rap stinks

You cats are the Sphinx

You cut off your nose to spite your face

Bet you like it that way dont ya" - Jay 2002

"First of all this is Nas I'mma Braveheart veteran

And y'all already know who I'm better than"

"Who's the next label I'mma bury

CEO's, rappers and A&R's go to the rap cemetery" - Nas 2003

"if youre thinking its just rap

Dont go too far on that verse

Get your whole chest collapsed

It's just the facts

God bless the cats that think I'm a liar

Pick up a paper nigga, read my priors" - Jay 2003

"You should know if you gone do somethin

And then go to radio we all know you frontin

They shootin nobody dyin

Somebody better put somebody body on somebody iron

Sometime soon or somebody lyin

I ain't buyin that shit yall shovelin

I ain't duckin for nothin cousin

I'm too tall to act small you liars" - Jay 2003

friendly fire

"Worst enemies wanna be my best friends

Best friends wanna be enemies like thats whats in

But I don’t give a fuck walk inside the lions den"- Nas 2007

"Pardon the rest of my nigga but Im the best who’s ever did it" - Nas 2008

"Thats why I took the number one slot The realest shit in rap comes from my voice box" - Jay 2008

Some where just bars, but i there's a line nas said about being the top hustler roc crusher.

Then jay on murder Marcy, Sayin we supposed to be brothers don't make me laugh m*********** etc

Then there's the nas line on destroy and rebuild

 

[dalyricalbandit]

them two niggas went at it alot

"Lex with TV sets the minimum" - Nas 96

"You held it down long enough, let me take those reigns

And just like your spirit the Commission remain

I’m the focal, point like Biggie in his prime

On the low though, shhhhh, the city is mine" - Jay 97

"It used to be fun makin records to see your response

But now competition is none now that youre gone

And these niggas is wrong using your name in vain

And they claim to be New York’s king" - Nas 98/99

"You make hot songs, but she know you steal from me

Who ill as me?

I wild on haters in album three" - NAS 99

"S dot Carter turn rappers into martyrs

Separate fathers from their daughters why bother

I'm a crook like you, I took like you

I disobeyed the law threw out the book like you

How dare you look at Jigga like I'm shook like who" - Jay 99

"Round here fronting

LIKE my shit dont sound LIKE nothing

LIKE I aint got the crown or something

LIKE I aint the nigga you based your life on

I guess I aint the reason you got that ice on

LIKE I aint 5 mil and what did your joint go?

Excuse me nigga don’t confuse me

I ain’t one of you rappers who got a deal

I’m one of the few niggas spitting it that got it for real

And even if you hating gotta knock it in your wheels

And the day that I stop it, ILL" - Jay 99

"You wanna ball till you fall I can help you with that

You want beef I could let a slug melt in your hat" - Nas 99

"Your false crown covered in dirt Defeated

Y’all niggas all hail the King is dead

He running like a bitch with his tail between his legs

Stillmatic still Eye for an Eye

You wanna be God

You’re just the next rapper to die Fucking with Nas" - Nas 2000

Is That Yo Bitch - Jay2000

"I done came up, and fuck bringin your name up

It's beef I'mma see you, and bang til you hang up

Your life a lie, but here's the truth

You ain't hype to die, but you hype to shoot

" And only a few fit in, your lifestyle's written

So who you supposed to be play your position" - Bleek 2000

"Oh you didnt Wanna know whose life Was Written

The life I’m livin The ice the women "

"your whole crew’s coffin bound

Your hoe, your man, lieutenant, your boss get found" - Nas 2001

Roc-A-Fella hot 97 freestyle - Roc 2001

"Rip the FREEWAY

shoot through MEMPHIS with Money Bags

Stop in Philly order cheese steaks and eat BEANS fast

And bring it back up top, remove the fake king of New York

You show off I count dough off when you sample my voice

I rule you, before, you used to rap like the FU-SHNICKENS/NAS designed your BLUEPRINT, who you kidding?

Is he H TO THE IZZO, M TO THE IZZO?

For shizzle you phony, the rapper version of SISQO

And that’s for certain, you clone me, your wack clothes line I’d rather Sean John

bore me with your fake coke rhymes And those times they never took place, you liar

Un was your first court case, you had no priors

You master fabricated stories of streets and sound slick

Have you surrounded, you and the faggots you down with

Why they riding NAS, trying to boost their careers - Nas 2001

Takeover - Jay 2001

Ether - Nas 2001

Supa Ugly - Jay 2001

"Right in they fat mouth then I carve my name

Nas too real Nas true king

It's however you feel, go head, you swing

Your arms too short to box with God

I don't kill soloists only kill squads

Fame went to they head, so now it's "Fuck Nas"

Yesterday you begged for a deal, today you tough guy"

"I spotted my enemies tryna do what I do

Came in with my style, so I fathered you"

"Now you wanna hang with niggas I hung with Fuck bitches I hit" - Nas 2001

You gettin' too big for ya britches

You fuckin' wit' a dude that did it wit' digits

Breathing's a privilege

Don't you know when you're defeated?

Won't you though? Throw in the towel

I'm better with vowels - Jay 2001

"Now slowly, thinkin of all the things that oppose me

I think of kings who died and rappers out to dethrone me

For they crown they head is cut off, bodies is laid Dead in the street" - Nas 2002

"We mastered this, don't you know

I eat Ether and breathe acid, weak bastards" - Jay 2002

Blueprint 2 - Jay 2002

Last Real Nigga Alive - Nas 2002

"you wanna spar with me

I'll put you down in the grass

its the God MC Young V-I-T-O

Young'n you are my hijo

My son dula

I clean the cesspool up

Rap stinks

You cats are the Sphinx

You cut off your nose to spite your face

Bet you like it that way dont ya" - Jay 2002

"First of all this is Nas I'mma Braveheart veteran

And y'all already know who I'm better than"

"Who's the next label I'mma bury

CEO's, rappers and A&R's go to the rap cemetery" - Nas 2003

"if youre thinking its just rap

Dont go too far on that verse

Get your whole chest collapsed

It's just the facts

God bless the cats that think I'm a liar

Pick up a paper nigga, read my priors" - Jay 2003

"You should know if you gone do somethin

And then go to radio we all know you frontin

They shootin nobody dyin

Somebody better put somebody body on somebody iron

Sometime soon or somebody lyin

I ain't buyin that shit yall shovelin

I ain't duckin for nothin cousin

I'm too tall to act small you liars" - Jay 2003

friendly fire

"Worst enemies wanna be my best friends

Best friends wanna be enemies like thats whats in

But I don’t give a fuck walk inside the lions den"- Nas 2007

"Pardon the rest of my nigga but Im the best who’s ever did it" - Nas 2008

"Thats why I took the number one slot The realest shit in rap comes from my voice box" - Jay 2008

Some where just bars, but i there's a line nas said about being the top hustler roc crusher.

Then jay on murder Marcy, Sayin we supposed to be brothers don't make me laugh m*********** etc

Then there's the nas line on destroy and rebuild

Yea I left a bunch out a lot of mixtape/freestyles etc.

But like u said

"Even Jigga want the crown how that sounds aw poor thing" - Nas 2001

"While y'all was running your mouth complaining about Summer Jam

I was in flip-flops in the South of France

See how it flip-flops with the number one station for hip-hop and r&b?

You thought Summer Jam was starring you? It was starring me

Even in my absence, my presence is felt

That gotta tell you I'm the king, dog, if nothing else

I'm on another continent, you still ain't content

I'm in the Mediterranean, you still ain't vent

Explain to me why I want to be you again

You on the radio crying, I'm learning to swim" - Jay 2002

 

[freshb651]

Nevermind

 

[soul rattler]

"The Jones' can't keep up... MAYBE my niggas Nas, but I got stronger after Ether" - Jay Z "Ballin freestyle"

 

[its....JOHN B]

But even after the reasonable doubt situation, jayz still shouted out nas on vol 1, I don't think the beef really started for Jay at that point

It really wasn't "beef" until summerjam when Jay finally called him out, the way I look at it Nas brought it on himself because he probably looked at Jay as someone who leeches on to whoever is hot at the time (Jaz, Kane, Big) so when Nas saw he was trying to do the same thing with him he was like fuck that especially since Jay was rolling with Big and Nas and Big had their thing brewing at the time, fast forward Jay blows up and Nas starts flopping Jay was probably feeling some sort of way by the lack of respect from Nas then you throw Carmen in the mix he got cocky and took it upon himself to bury what at the time looked like a career that was spiraling downward, but we know what happened after that

 

[onetoughmiracle]

I need karceno to make sense of this all....

 

[soul rattler]

Maybe they were sending competitive shots prior to Summerjam the way Kendrick, Drake, and Big Sean been doing.

 

[aneed123]

Jay looked up to Nas and wanted to be friends /leech off him. Nas wasnt having it so Jay took it to the next level when he got bigger andwas feeling himself.... God then blessed him with that Ether karma

 

[soul rattler]

Slight sidebar:

Why are Jay Z's early successes attributed to Dame Dash but his failures (Ether) are all on him?

 

[ineedpussy]

so is the movie carmen about this bitch?

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Slight sidebar:

Why are Jay Z's early successes attributed to Dame Dash but his failures (Ether) are all on him?

Cuz he was a failure before hooking up w Dame

 

[Figo]

Her destiny are already groupie and duck tales.

Vlad looking for a respond from Nas badly.

 

[Maywood]

them two niggas went at it alot

"Lex with TV sets the minimum" - Nas 96

"You held it down long enough, let me take those reigns

And just like your spirit the Commission remain

I’m the focal, point like Biggie in his prime

On the low though, shhhhh, the city is mine" - Jay 97

"It used to be fun makin records to see your response

But now competition is none now that youre gone

And these niggas is wrong using your name in vain

And they claim to be New York’s king" - Nas 98/99

"You make hot songs, but she know you steal from me

Who ill as me?

I wild on haters in album three" - NAS 99

"S dot Carter turn rappers into martyrs

Separate fathers from their daughters why bother

I'm a crook like you, I took like you

I disobeyed the law threw out the book like you

How dare you look at Jigga like I'm shook like who" - Jay 99

"Round here fronting

LIKE my shit dont sound LIKE nothing

LIKE I aint got the crown or something

LIKE I aint the nigga you based your life on

I guess I aint the reason you got that ice on

LIKE I aint 5 mil and what did your joint go?

Excuse me nigga don’t confuse me

I ain’t one of you rappers who got a deal

I’m one of the few niggas spitting it that got it for real

And even if you hating gotta knock it in your wheels

And the day that I stop it, ILL" - Jay 99

"You wanna ball till you fall I can help you with that

You want beef I could let a slug melt in your hat" - Nas 99

"Your false crown covered in dirt Defeated

Y’all niggas all hail the King is dead

He running like a bitch with his tail between his legs

Stillmatic still Eye for an Eye

You wanna be God

You’re just the next rapper to die Fucking with Nas" - Nas 2000

Is That Yo Bitch - Jay2000

"I done came up, and fuck bringin your name up

It's beef I'mma see you, and bang til you hang up

Your life a lie, but here's the truth

You ain't hype to die, but you hype to shoot

" And only a few fit in, your lifestyle's written

So who you supposed to be play your position" - Bleek 2000

"Oh you didnt Wanna know whose life Was Written

The life I’m livin The ice the women "

"your whole crew’s coffin bound

Your hoe, your man, lieutenant, your boss get found" - Nas 2001

Roc-A-Fella hot 97 freestyle - Roc 2001

"Rip the FREEWAY

shoot through MEMPHIS with Money Bags

Stop in Philly order cheese steaks and eat BEANS fast

And bring it back up top, remove the fake king of New York

You show off I count dough off when you sample my voice

I rule you, before, you used to rap like the FU-SHNICKENS/NAS designed your BLUEPRINT, who you kidding?

Is he H TO THE IZZO, M TO THE IZZO?

For shizzle you phony, the rapper version of SISQO

And that’s for certain, you clone me, your wack clothes line I’d rather Sean John

bore me with your fake coke rhymes And those times they never took place, you liar

Un was your first court case, you had no priors

You master fabricated stories of streets and sound slick

Have you surrounded, you and the faggots you down with

Why they riding NAS, trying to boost their careers - Nas 2001

Takeover - Jay 2001

Ether - Nas 2001

Supa Ugly - Jay 2001

"Right in they fat mouth then I carve my name

Nas too real Nas true king

It's however you feel, go head, you swing

Your arms too short to box with God

I don't kill soloists only kill squads

Fame went to they head, so now it's "Fuck Nas"

Yesterday you begged for a deal, today you tough guy"

"I spotted my enemies tryna do what I do

Came in with my style, so I fathered you"

"Now you wanna hang with niggas I hung with Fuck bitches I hit" - Nas 2001

You gettin' too big for ya britches

You fuckin' wit' a dude that did it wit' digits

Breathing's a privilege

Don't you know when you're defeated?

Won't you though? Throw in the towel

I'm better with vowels - Jay 2001

"Now slowly, thinkin of all the things that oppose me

I think of kings who died and rappers out to dethrone me

For they crown they head is cut off, bodies is laid Dead in the street" - Nas 2002

"We mastered this, don't you know

I eat Ether and breathe acid, weak bastards" - Jay 2002

Blueprint 2 - Jay 2002

Last Real Nigga Alive - Nas 2002

"you wanna spar with me

I'll put you down in the grass

its the God MC Young V-I-T-O

Young'n you are my hijo

My son dula

I clean the cesspool up

Rap stinks

You cats are the Sphinx

You cut off your nose to spite your face

Bet you like it that way dont ya" - Jay 2002

"First of all this is Nas I'mma Braveheart veteran

And y'all already know who I'm better than"

"Who's the next label I'mma bury

CEO's, rappers and A&R's go to the rap cemetery" - Nas 2003

"if youre thinking its just rap

Dont go too far on that verse

Get your whole chest collapsed

It's just the facts

God bless the cats that think I'm a liar

Pick up a paper nigga, read my priors" - Jay 2003

"You should know if you gone do somethin

And then go to radio we all know you frontin

They shootin nobody dyin

Somebody better put somebody body on somebody iron

Sometime soon or somebody lyin

I ain't buyin that shit yall shovelin

I ain't duckin for nothin cousin

I'm too tall to act small you liars" - Jay 2003

friendly fire

"Worst enemies wanna be my best friends

Best friends wanna be enemies like thats whats in

But I don’t give a fuck walk inside the lions den"- Nas 2007

"Pardon the rest of my nigga but Im the best who’s ever did it" - Nas 2008

"Thats why I took the number one slot The realest shit in rap comes from my voice box" - Jay 2008

Flat Out Beautiful

 

[dalyricalbandit]

"While y'all was running your mouth complaining about Summer Jam

I was in flip-flops in the South of France

See how it flip-flops with the number one station for hip-hop and r&b?

You thought Summer Jam was starring you? It was starring me

Even in my absence, my presence is felt That gotta tell you I'm the king, dog, if nothing else

I'm on another continent, you still ain't content

I'm in the Mediterranean, you still ain't vent

Explain to me why I want to be you again

You on the radio crying, I'm learning to swim" - Jay 2002

"Ya'll actin' like ya'll better than Hov

Ya'll cats should open up on the Letterman show

Cats is funny

All I do is get money and ya'll shit sound funny to me

Everybody's talkin' like they better than Hov

But that shit's real funny to me"

"Still holdin' my own on the corner nigga

What can't kill me can only make me stronger, nigga

And when I get back home

Get your ass up out the throne

Everything's back to the way shit was

I'mma stay hot no matter what my shit does

I could drop a straight dud, I'mma stay up

Niggas tryin' to break my will

You know that ain't my steel

I'm Destiny's Child, my fate's been sealed

You're dealin' with a higher power

Do 'em like Dwight Eisenhower" - Jay 2000

 

[soul rattler]

Slight sidebar:

Why are Jay Z's early successes attributed to Dame Dash but his failures (Ether) are all on him?

Cuz he was a failure before hooking up w Dame

What did he fail at? Or are you just being funny?

 

[Lurkristocrat]

Lol at jayz learning to swim at 37

 

[Kwan Dai]

According to Akinyele the Jay v Nas friction started in 94

I was going to post this.

 

[chompollet]

Vlad hates Nas

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

Lol at jayz learning to swim at 37

you 37 and you still learning to swim? Urrrrggghh [Game voice]

 

[Lurkristocrat]

Lol at jayz learning to swim at 37

you 37 and you still learning to swim? Urrrrggghh [Game voice]

Lol and u know he must of got shamed into having to learn. Nigga got pushed in as a joke and almost drowned in 4 feet side of a pool n shit lmao.