Carmelo>>>Lebron

[mike06]

how did this go from melo-bron to kobe-bron?

i answered a question.....lmao!!...check that i answered a question with KOBE BRYANT as my answer....lmao

 

[MillzOG]

I do too..and my counter arguement to that is...brady's stats are better then manning come playoff time..when it really matters...

also lebron took his cavs to the finals on his back..u will see that more in bball cuz of it only being 5 players per team on the court..then i football cuz u have so many diff aspect

when the colts won the supebowl...u know their defense played better then manning vs the bears....

your right, but the Bears did have a top ranked defense that year right?!....and they were playin pass coverage the whole game! i mean...why else would a team actually play the run when we were a bottom 5 running team that year again

how did this go from melo-bron to kobe-bron?

lol...you know how that goes

 

[MillzOG]

Plus Qb's can control a game.If your Qb plays horrible or makes 1-2 bad decisions it can cost you a W.

Last year in the east finals lebron did everything possible was accountable for 65% of his teams total offense and they still lost and got handled because the rest of them bums did nothin besides west.

same thing with the defense.....your team blows 1-2 coverages and it can cost you a W

 

[Dick Shitman]

i answered a question.....lmao!!...check that i answered a question with KOBE BRYANT as my answer....lmao

lmao, now its on brady-manning???

who yall got, chamberlain or russell?

 

[playmaker88]

SMH!!

dude lost a competitive game...on the highest level of bball that can be play'd on this planet..and niggas making fun of him for showing emotions!! You'll niggas is wack

triple double -kobe wouldn't do that, durant wouldn't nor would melo...maybe wade...doubt

and n*ggas claiming melo is better...wow you'll niggas don't know what ur talking about...lebron is the best player in the league..he numbers show that...find me another player capable fo putting up those type of numbers....smh at the basketball knowledge in this thread...

His fault page 8..

 

[Dick Shitman]

lol...you know how that goes

lol i shouldnt have even asked

 

[ghost!]

Brady has also had better teams, you can say Manning has always had the better recievers which i can give you that (even though the past 4years the Pats have had better recievers than the Colts)....and like you said the SB is harder to win than the NBA championship, you need a complete team to do it and the Colts always have a glaring weakness everyyear....whether its run defense or running on offense and in the playoffs how do you win games?!...stopping the run, and running the ball

and brady got the playoff stats, but not by as much as Peyton has brady in the season stats and wins....and there is a big difference between having a better career, and bein the better player

brady got moss and others in 07 and only play'd 2 seasons with them...and in the end...the point is to win..and if u can't perform like u do in the reg. season in the playoffs, then what's the point?

and the ravens didn't have an offense when they won, this SB was no excuse for the colts...they had the best if not one of the best on both sides of the ball...peyton f' that up...

sorry for going into football...

 

[ghost!]

His fault page 8..

ha ha do u not see me talking about melo in that post?

plus anyone with a 1/2 of bball mind knows..melo is not better then lebron.....and i'm a bigger fan of melo's then lebrons..but to me the same applies with all players..i rather have a player that gives you more then a player that just scores..

 

[mike06]

lmao, now its on brady-manning???

who yall got, chamberlain or russell?

lmao Russell........

 

[MillzOG]

brady got moss and others in 07 and only play'd 2 seasons with them...and in the end...the point is to win..and if u can't perform like u do in the reg. season in the playoffs, then what's the point?

and the ravens didn't have an offense when they won, this SB was no excuse for the colts...they had the best if not one of the best on both sides of the ball...peyton f' that up...

sorry for going into football...

ok so then forget i said 4seasons, make it 3 seasons.....and still even when Peyton puts up points (like he does every year cept the times he played the Pats in New England in the snow) the defense was givin up mad points and runnin for 1st down after 1st down....

and the year the Ravens won they didnt have a PASSING GAME, they had a really good running game with Jamal Lewis, and they had the best defense in the league....in the playoffs, Defense and run game wins

 

[Yungin T. Jeezie]

SMH @ Bron crying like Jay on hot 97 after Ether drop

 

[MillzOG]

See I feel like I can debate about kobe's game being I used to be a huge fan but then I stopped likin dude.I got every laker playoff game from 99-02 on tape cuz I used to ball back in the day and I was a jordan STAN/Kobe fan and I was to young to tape the bulls games when they was winnin I just remember watching them.

He's not better than mike and is the greatest emulator of jordan ever(which says a lot) he is a tremendous player but niggas is reachin sayin kobe is the Goat or even the best in the league now.He had many flaws in his game that he improved on but still hasn't grasped the team concept like MJ did eventually.

Lebron is a team player who makes other better just like MJ did kobe has never done that because he never had to until 04-05 and he really didnt make anybody better

it aint a reach to say Kobe is the best in the league cus hes #1 or #2......but C/S the rest of what u sayin....until the bolded

Lebron aint a team player, he does get the assists and he can pass.....but passin and gettin assists doesnt = team player, word to stephon marbury

 

[playmaker88]

See I feel like I can debate about kobe's game being I used to be a huge fan but then I stopped likin dude.I got every laker playoff game from 99-02 on tape cuz I used to ball back in the day and I was a jordan STAN/Kobe fan and I was to young to tape the bulls games when they was winnin I just remember watching them.

He's not better than mike and is the greatest emulator of jordan ever(which says a lot) he is a tremendous player but niggas is reachin sayin kobe is the Goat or even the best in the league now.He had many flaws in his game that he improved on but still hasn't grasped the team concept like MJ did eventually.

Lebron is a team player who makes other better just like MJ did kobe has never done that because he never had to until 04-05 and he really didnt make anybody better

I have watched both also. Look at the videotape.

 

[ghost!]

ok so then forget i said 4seasons, make it 3 seasons.....and still even when Peyton puts up points (like he does every year cept the times he played the Pats in New England in the snow) the defense was givin up mad points and runnin for 1st down after 1st down....

and the year the Ravens won they didnt have a PASSING GAME, they had a really good running game with Jamal Lewis, and they had the best defense in the league....in the playoffs, Defense and run game wins

2 seasons..brady was injuried.....in 08

and yeah the ravens did have a running game....just not a passin game..in 06 the colts had a running game and defense and in that SB..those two aspects was why they won...

this year...they didnt have a running game but addai ran pretty well in the superbowl....

and i really dont care if katz blame me for going off to something else..obviously it's a good convo cuz you'll keep coming back...that's the point..a good convo, debate..

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

No im sayin steve kerr has 5 rings as a role playing shooter.Does that make him better than barkley or ewing? HELL NO

Rings do mean somethin . Not one star in nba history has every won a chip by himself period.Some of em had more help than others but nobody can do it alone.So if the cavs win this year obviously jamison and all the other pieces will be factors.

I was sayin people cant use the "He has more rings so he's better" line

totally agree wit underlined...

and with that said, i still say garnett>>duncan, but thats another story...

 

[mike06]

how is it a reach when ACTUAL NBA PLAYERS point to #24 as the best player in the league?

and wtf is wit this he doesn't "grasp" shyt...r u serious...how did they win it last year if he didn't "grasp" the team concept....how did they even make it there the year before if he didn't "grasp" the team concept.....Kobe would be leading the league in scoring wit 45 a game and a 22-39 game season if he did not "grasp" the team concept so what are you talking about?

 

[playmaker88]

sayin Kobe in the same sentence as MJ gets such a visceral response.. people need to put there personal feelings for a player aside.. and look at shit with clear eyes.. not ESPN tinted shades..

Goto the videotape.. Youtube..

 

[MillzOG]

2 seasons..brady was injuried.....in 08

and yeah the ravens did have a running game....just not a passin game..in 06 the colts had a running game and defense and in that SB..those two aspects was why they won...

this year...they didnt have a running game but addai ran pretty well in the superbowl....

and i really dont care if katz blame me for going off to something else..obviously it's a good convo cuz you'll keep coming back...that's the point..a good convo, debate..

no the Colts did not have a good run game or defense in 06, 06 was the year they were dead last in run defense but they started killin in the playoffs i wont lie about that, we played great defense in that playoff run but we still werent running the ball at all....

 

[ghost!]

totally agree wit underlined...

and with that said, i still say garnett>>duncan, but thats another story...

eek..i can't say Garnett>>Duncan......

ha ha and i rep all my boston teams..but duncan is right up there with shaq and kobe as the players of the decade.....garrnett is in the sec. group to me...

 

[ghost!]

no the Colts did not have a good run game or defense in 06, 06 was the year they were dead last in run defense but they started killin in the playoffs i wont lie about that, we played great defense in that playoff run but we still werent running the ball at all....

Their defense as pretty good..and addai was good that year and ran well in the SB....addai did have one or two good years in the beginning...i think

cuz i remember there was a thread about which running back was better him or maroney...and i couldn't even argue cuz addai was beastin...i'm sure 06 the running game and their defense was the biggest factor in their success that year...( can't remember..my mind forgets alot ha ha)

again i apologize..it's not my intent to f'up the main point of view of this thread..no dis respect to the thread starter