Breakfast Club & Comedian Lil Duval Gettin Heat For Interview Question About Trannies

[Copper]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

A person not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not the same as suggesting that a person deserves get bodily harm or death beacuse they mislead you into what u would consider homosexual activity

 

[VulcanRaven]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

No it isn't. He doesn't hate them but would be angry if he got tricked.

Ppl lie alot.. About a whole bunch of diff shit...that's just a fact of life

And its ok to be angry when you are lied to

That said, lets not sugar coat or deflect from the reason why trans person not being upfront about their past is such a great offense worthy of death or great bodily harm

It has everything to do with the aversion to homosexuality

1st. That's true but lying about that has serious consequences. That's just how it is.

2nd. Men kill each other over their manhood being insulted or threatened. It is not just against trannies. Homosexuality has and will always be frowned upon by straight people. Why wouldn't it be? If a man is straight then obviously he don't want a tranny. He has a right to not want that type of person.

 

[bambu]

Niggas know the difference between a man in drag and a woman.....

They just act dumb to excuse their faggot tendencies....

No homo.....

 

[7figz]

FOH with this "killing is the line" shit when there ain't even a legal recourse to the fuckery.

If a tranny lies to a dude, and he finds out - you think there's a "TR401" form he could fill out at the police station ? That dude ain't got no recourse to that shit. Of course, he's gonna want revenge. The fuck you expect him to do ?

Then if he would've said he would beat dude within an inch of his life, y'all would still be saying the same bullshit.

Admit it - y'all don't want no repercussions for these trannies. Y'all want 'em to use any bathroom they want & lie to whoever they want.

Bitch ass folk is probably the same ones that would paint your son's nails and let him wear a dress talmbout... "he always liked to play dress up in my clothes and play with dolls".

So it's either death to all lying trans ppl... or they shouldnt have to face any repercussions??? Lol

There's no inbetween?

Like i said the shit is foul

But the only reason why is such a great offense for most is because ppl are concerned with appearences

So what kind of repercussions do you think they should have to face ?

BTW, can you imagine relegating a rape victim's trauma to people being "concerned with appearances" ?

Repercussions?

I dunno anything but murder and extreme violence

And being raped is not comparable

So what you think then - a law ? A punch in the arm ? face ? what ?

 

[Copper]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

A person not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not the same as suggesting that a person deserves get bodily harm or death beacuse they mislead you into what u would consider homosexual activity

"If a I have sex with a person with AIDS and they dont tell me I'll kill them" does not mean you hate people with AIDS

Deception leading to sexual activity is extremely invading and personal.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

A person not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not the same as suggesting that a person deserves get bodily harm or death beacuse they mislead you into what u would consider homosexual activity

"If a I have sex with a person with AIDS and they dont tell me I'll kill them" does not mean you hate people with AIDS

Deception leading to sexual activity is extremely invading and personal.

So a person purposefully not disclosing they have a lethal, incurable STD with a sexual partner is comparable????

And do you believe that a married person misleading a person in concerns to their marital status for the purpose of sex should a criminal offense and or should have violent/lethal repercussions?

 

[LordZuko]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

That's not transphobia. That's not an irrational fear of transgender people. It is an extreme reaction to an extreme situation.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

I see the issue as a simpler one. If you're tricked by a tranny into sex, that's on both of you - the tranny for being deceitful and the guy for being reckless/irresponsible or "willfully ignorant" (in the latter case, said guy might need to confront his sexuality). Violence is often the result in situations like this, and that is a fact, regardless of anyone's sensibilities.

However, I'm of the opinion that violence in this case is often unjustified and rightfully criminal. Take your L like a man, and deal with it. Everyone is bound to fuck up in life. But if you mind your p' and q's and stay responsible, you'll find yourself having to resort more to foresight and less to hindsight. Worst case scenario, you can file a lawsuit. I don't think that killing a tranny is going to make the situation better, but meh, do you and suffer/enjoy the consequences.

@7figz

The more i think about it

Of more of this mindset

 

[7figz]

I see the issue as a simpler one. If you're tricked by a tranny into sex, that's on both of you - the tranny for being deceitful and the guy for being reckless/irresponsible or "willfully ignorant" (in the latter case, said guy might need to confront his sexuality). Violence is often the result in situations like this, and that is a fact, regardless of anyone's sensibilities.

However, I'm of the opinion that violence in this case is often unjustified and rightfully criminal. Take your L like a man, and deal with it. Everyone is bound to fuck up in life. But if you mind your p' and q's and stay responsible, you'll find yourself having to resort more to foresight and less to hindsight. Worst case scenario, you can file a lawsuit. I don't think that killing a tranny is going to make the situation better, but meh, do you and suffer/enjoy the consequences.

@7figz

The more i think about it

Of more of this mindset

So, to entertain that logic, let's compare it to the underage shit. Since the attitude yall both seem to share is no harm no foul, live and learn - should that be the case with somebody who had sex with somebody and found out later they was underage ?

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

That's not transphobia. That's not an irrational fear of transgender people. It is an extreme reaction to an extreme situation.

Transphobia, same as homophobia, is also used to describe the strong dislike of or prejudice against homosexual and trans people

 

[The Lonious Monk]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

That's not transphobia. That's not an irrational fear of transgender people. It is an extreme reaction to an extreme situation.

Transphobia, same as homophobia, is also used to describe the strong dislike of or prejudice against homosexual and trans people

Here's the thing though. If not for this belief among trannies that it's ok not to disclose what they are, half the people in this topic talking against them would likely be indifferent to them. They hate for them isn't just some irrational dislike for them in this case. It's a dislike for their insistence that violating other people is acceptable.

 

[Copper]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

A person not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not the same as suggesting that a person deserves get bodily harm or death beacuse they mislead you into what u would consider homosexual activity

"If a I have sex with a person with AIDS and they dont tell me I'll kill them" does not mean you hate people with AIDS

Deception leading to sexual activity is extremely invading and personal.

So a person purposefully not disclosing they have a lethal, incurable STD with a sexual partner is comparable????

And do you believe that a married person misleading a person in concerns to their marital status for the purpose of sex should a criminal offense and or should have violent/lethal repercussions?

You can sue in some states if your spouse cheats and infidelity does often lead to violence and murder.

The key component here is deception. Hes not beciming violent bc the persin is trans hes diing it bc he was decieved.

Deception has lead to rape convictions.

People react violently upon learning of deceit. Im not codoning it but its not homophobic

 

[VulcanRaven]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

A person not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not the same as suggesting that a person deserves get bodily harm or death beacuse they mislead you into what u would consider homosexual activity

"If a I have sex with a person with AIDS and they dont tell me I'll kill them" does not mean you hate people with AIDS

Deception leading to sexual activity is extremely invading and personal.

So a person purposefully not disclosing they have a lethal, incurable STD with a sexual partner is comparable????

And do you believe that a married person misleading a person in concerns to their marital status for the purpose of sex should a criminal offense and or should have violent/lethal repercussions?

Can't compare the two again. Having sex with a married person you are attracted to who is the gender you are attracted to is not comparable.

 

[LordZuko]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

That's not transphobia. That's not an irrational fear of transgender people. It is an extreme reaction to an extreme situation.

Transphobia, same as homophobia, is also used to describe the strong dislike of or prejudice against homosexual and trans people

Phobia is a clinical term. It means to possess an irrational fear. Like agoraphobia, fear of crowds or arachnaphobia, fear of spiders.

To react emotionally and violently towards someone trying to sexually manipulate you is not a phobia it's a natural reaction based on bring severely duped. Kinda how a stag reacts to a hunter who sprays on doe pheromones to lure the stag to a killing field.

To have a revulsion or disgust towards a lifestyle is not a phobia. In fact many homosexual people have the same revulsion or disgust towards heterosexual situations or people.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

A person not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not the same as suggesting that a person deserves get bodily harm or death beacuse they mislead you into what u would consider homosexual activity

"If a I have sex with a person with AIDS and they dont tell me I'll kill them" does not mean you hate people with AIDS

Deception leading to sexual activity is extremely invading and personal.

So a person purposefully not disclosing they have a lethal, incurable STD with a sexual partner is comparable????

And do you believe that a married person misleading a person in concerns to their marital status for the purpose of sex should a criminal offense and or should have violent/lethal repercussions?

You can sue in some states if your spouse cheats and infidelity does often lead to violence and murder.

The key component here is deception. Hes not beciming violent bc the persin is trans hes diing it bc he was decieved.

Deception has lead to rape convictions.

People react violently upon learning of deceit. Im not codoning it but its not homophobic

There are exceptions... but when ppl start talking about its afront on their manhood its obviously not just about deceit

And when we support or don't condemn the comments of a duval we are indirectly condoning violence

 

[Plutarch]

Since the attitude yall both seem to share is no harm no foul, live and learn

You're misconstruing (perhaps purposely) my "attitude." I never said there was no harm, no foul. It's quite obvious that there is often harm and foul in these situations, which is why I raised the point of possibly seeking legal action as a more reasonable option to obtain some kind of justice, as opposed to literally resorting to murder.

Question: do you think it's justified/ to murder a tranny if she "tricked" (never mind the moderate consensus here that you'd have to be pretty stupid to be "tricked" in the first place) you into having sex?

We've already established the fact that murder can and does happen in these situations, and from a mental or cultural standpoint, it's understandable (understandable =/= justified). So that's not my question. I'm asking you whether you think such a murder is justified.

And I'm sure half of the niggas talking that murder shit, couldn't even bring themselves to do it, especially if they're not on the psychopath/sociopath spectrum. Murder is a lot different when you're not doing it on a video game or watching it on a movie. The least you'd do is beat the tranny up, that is, if you can even muster up the "courage," especially if the "woman" (who is still a man) has the capacity to fuck you up.

- should that be the case with somebody who had sex with somebody and found out later they was underage ?

If I'm understanding you correctly, I believe you're asking me/us whether it's the case, as I have argued in the tranny scenario, that a man should take his L and possibly seek legal action if he was tricked into having sex by a minor.

Obviously, the situation is different and more complicated, because 1. we're dealing with minors (who are generally not legally accountable) and 2. sex with a minor and/or statutory rape is a clearer and perhaps more serious crime, regardless of how fair or unfair that may be. So unlike in the tranny scenario, minors are involved and the guy is the criminal.

However, some of what I said still applies. Again, it's quite simple to me. As an adult heterosexual male, you should be responsible. You should be responsible in your sexual life - be responsible concerning STIs/STDS, trannies, minors, etc. Some of these problems are very easy to avoid, as long as you're responsible.

If green pus is coming from a woman's pussy, then you probably shouldn't fuck her, regardless of how thirsty you are. If that "woman" you're scoping out from afar turns out to have bigger hands and shoulders than you, then you probably shouldn't fuck her, regardless of how thirsty you are. If a "woman" looks a little bit on the younger side and doesn't understand all the cultural references you're making that exist outside of her generation, then you probably shouldn't fuck her. Generally speaking, you should get to know the people whom you fuck with, whether it's sexual or not.

Is that always easy? No. But you should do the best you can. And if you fuck up, well, you fuck up, and you'll have to deal with the consequences. So no, whether you happen to fuck a tranny or a minor, it's never no harm, no foul. You can suffer personally and/or legally. But "live and learn" still applies. Responsibility is what separates adults from children. Life is hard, but you can either accept your share of the responsibility for your mistakes and grow wiser (like Tupac), or you can deny responsibility for your mistakes, learn nothing, and grow stupider (like O.J.?).

But I still don't quite understand your analogy though. Are you arguing that murdering a tranny who tricks you into sex is justified, and therefore arguing that murdering a minor who tricks you into sex is also justified? What are you actually arguing?

 

[VulcanRaven]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

Not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not homophobia

U r right

But i never said that

You said it kinda was

A person not wanting to have sex with a trans person is not the same as suggesting that a person deserves get bodily harm or death beacuse they mislead you into what u would consider homosexual activity

"If a I have sex with a person with AIDS and they dont tell me I'll kill them" does not mean you hate people with AIDS

Deception leading to sexual activity is extremely invading and personal.

So a person purposefully not disclosing they have a lethal, incurable STD with a sexual partner is comparable????

And do you believe that a married person misleading a person in concerns to their marital status for the purpose of sex should a criminal offense and or should have violent/lethal repercussions?

You can sue in some states if your spouse cheats and infidelity does often lead to violence and murder.

The key component here is deception. Hes not beciming violent bc the persin is trans hes diing it bc he was decieved.

Deception has lead to rape convictions.

People react violently upon learning of deceit. Im not codoning it but its not homophobic

There are exceptions... but when ppl start talking about its afront on their manhood its obviously not just about deceit

And when we support or don't condemn the comments of a duval we are indirectly condoning violence

Ok then. So be it. I support Duval. He is right to be outraged if that happened to him and deal with it how he sees fit. Men value their manhood and nothing will change that. I don't expect you to understand.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul

but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not

we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences

blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate

that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society

homophobia is still a big problem

its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows

and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex

What Duval said wasn't homophobia though or transphobia

It kinda was

He suggested that because this person mislead him into what he would consider homosexual activity that person deserves to not to live

That's not transphobia. That's not an irrational fear of transgender people. It is an extreme reaction to an extreme situation.

Transphobia, same as homophobia, is also used to describe the strong dislike of or prejudice against homosexual and trans people

Phobia is a clinical term. It means to possess an irrational fear. Like agoraphobia, fear of crowds or arachnaphobia, fear of spiders.

To react emotionally and violently towards someone trying to sexually manipulate you is not a phobia it's a natural reaction based on bring severely duped. Kinda how a stag reacts to a hunter who sprays on doe pheromones to lure the stag to a killing field.

To have a revulsion or disgust towards a lifestyle is not a phobia. In fact many homosexual people have the same revulsion or disgust towards heterosexual situations or people.

Definition of homophobia

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

homophobicplay \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bik\

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

 

[7figz]

Since the attitude yall both seem to share is no harm no foul, live and learn

You're misconstruing (perhaps purposely) my "attitude." I never said there was no harm, no foul. It's quite obvious that there is often harm and foul in these situations, which is why I raised the point of possibly seeking legal action as a more reasonable option to obtain some kind of justice, as opposed to literally resorting to murder.

Question: do you think it's justified/ to murder a tranny if she "tricked" (never mind the moderate consensus here that you'd have to be pretty stupid to be "tricked" in the first place) you into having sex?

We've already established the fact that murder can and does happen in these situations, and from a mental or cultural standpoint, it's understandable (understandable =/= justified). So that's not my question. I'm asking you whether you think such a murder is justified.

And I'm sure half of the niggas talking that murder shit, couldn't even bring themselves to do it, especially if they're not on the psychopath/sociopath spectrum. Murder is a lot different when you're not doing it on a video game or watching it on a movie. The least you'd do is beat the tranny up, that is, if you can even muster up the "courage," especially if the "woman" (who is still a man) has the capacity to fuck you up.

- should that be the case with somebody who had sex with somebody and found out later they was underage ?

If I'm understanding you correctly, I believe you're asking me/us whether it's the case, as I have argued in the tranny scenario, that a man should take his L and possibly seek legal action if he was tricked into having sex by a minor.

Obviously, the situation is different and more complicated, because 1. we're dealing with minors (who are generally not legally accountable) and 2. sex with a minor and/or statutory rape is a clearer and perhaps more serious crime, regardless of how fair or unfair that may be. So unlike in the tranny scenario, minors are involved and the guy is the criminal.

However, some of what I said still applies. Again, it's quite simple to me. As an adult heterosexual male, you should be responsible. You should be responsible in your sexual life - be responsible concerning STIs/STDS, trannies, minors, etc. Some of these problems are very easy to avoid, as long as you're responsible.

If green pus is coming from a woman's pussy, then you probably shouldn't fuck her, regardless of how thirsty you are. If that "woman" you're scoping out from afar turns out to have bigger hands and shoulders than you, then you probably shouldn't fuck her, regardless of how thirsty you are. If a "woman" looks a little bit on the younger side and doesn't understand all the cultural references you're making that exist outside of her generation, then you probably shouldn't fuck her. Generally speaking, you should get to know the people whom you fuck with, whether it's sexual or not.

Is that always easy? No. But you should do the best you can. And if you fuck up, well, you fuck up, and you'll have to deal with the consequences. So no, whether you happen to fuck a tranny or a minor, it's never no harm, no foul. You can suffer personally and/or legally. But "live and learn" still applies. Responsibility is what separates adults from children. Life is hard, but you can either accept your share of the responsibility for your mistakes and grow wiser (like Tupac), or you can deny responsibility for your mistakes, learn nothing, and grow stupider (like O.J.?).

But I still don't quite understand your analogy though. Are you arguing that murdering a tranny who tricks you into sex is justified, and therefore arguing that murdering a minor who tricks you into sex is also justified? What are you actually arguing?

By the definition of the word justified, I'd say it very well might be. Especially until they come up with a law that punishes a tranny who didn't make it known upfront. And as much as I would like to believe a tranny's physical traits should give them away, like @beta said in the other thread, "tranny technology" is likely advanced at this point and I wouldn't put the onus on the other person to figure that shit out. It's the tranny's responsibility and it's the tranny who is committing some type of fraudulent shit.

To the extent that people continue to minimize the trauma that this would put somebody through, like it's a fuckin joke or some shit, I'd say there'll be that much more violent responses to it. Maybe if those dudes who would kill them knew there was an actual legal recourse to it, they'd consider another option. And MAYBE if the trannies knew they could face legal repercussions for lying, they'd be up front about it.

I also feel that you're displacing the blame because the majority of your argument involves what the victim should've done as opposed to the perpetrator.