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silverfoxx;c-9914906 said:7figz;c-9914402 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9914139 said:7figz;c-9913687 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9913637 said:He didn't have to invoke murder on a syndicated radio show. Like a lot of these comedians, his whole brand is being "provocative", so children in the bodies of grown ass men buy tickets to his shows. It wasn't even funny as a "joke." Comedians have got to be smarter instead of blaming peoples' responses to their lack of creativity on political correctness. If something is funny, I'm gonna laugh, even if it's offensive. He just wasn't funny, he was being simple.
That being said, for a transgender person to lie to a man about their identity is playing a very dangerous game. There are men who will kill you and to not be aware of that risk is almost like foolishly hoping for some kind of miraculous change in mindset. I am a woman and I am careful about the way I turn men away who try to talk to me. I'm always gracious. Never do the whole "I'm not interested. Get lost" shit. I am careful about how I talk to men in the street who get ignorant. I never talk crazy. I have seen enough worldstar videos to know that a man will knock my fuckin head off without thinking twice. It's not right, but I have to understand that risk. There are men who will kill or harm me, period. My whole identity as a woman is informed by being extra careful with how I deal with men because some of them don't mind hurting me. Ironically, a male who has or is transitioning to woman has to understand those risks.
For the sake of argument, which one you think is more problematic - a person whose stance is 'if you decided to deceive me, by lying about your born gender and by that allow me to unknowingly have sex with someone who was a born a man and thus be essentially a homosexual, I'll respond by killing you"
- or -
A person who believes they have the right to knowingly misrepresent themselves to someone else as a person of the opposite sex from which they were born, and expect no repercussions, or to decide what level that repercussion ther should be when they could just be honest' ?
Also, is saying that he'd kill that person really a line that's been crossed ? If the same question was asked to someone who about someone trying to rape them, would the potential rape victim saying she'd kill the rapist be crossing the line ?
Also, let's not act like they didn't know it was an inflammatory question - talking about somebody essentially violating your manhood. Fuck their airwaves if they're gonna ask that type of questions. Why he gotta be PC and lie about his answer ? People gotta rephrase how they're going to defend themselves now ?
So it's cool to consent to have sex with them, later find out something, be embarrassed about it and claim you were raped? Where have we heard that before ?
Huh ? It sounds like some lying fake rape shit.
What is he consenting to if he doesn't have all the information because the other person lied about it / didn't provide it.
Do you think it's similar to a older person having sex with someone who lies about their age, ends up being a minor and by law will be considered rape?
DoubleShotHelix;c-9913981 said:If a transgender has sex with a heterosexual person without their knowledge and consent thru deception its rape.
And that's not a reach at all.
The judicial system has already established that a man and a woman can agree to have consensual sex but that consent only apply to the conditions set forth from the outset anything else can retroactively be considered rape. Ex. Stealthing.
If a man and a woman consent to having protected sex and that man intentionally deceives the woman into having unprotected sex. Then that sexual liaison becomes non consensual and therefore rape because that woman consented to sex under the conditions set forth or implied.
That is the precedent;
therefore if a heterosexual man meets a transwoman and that trans knows that man for all intents and purposes is heterosexual and that transperson leads that man down a path of lies, manipulation and deception...of that otherwise heterosexual man. Then any sexual encounter they have should for all intents and purposes be considered rape. Because that heterosexual man did not consent to a homosexual encounter with a transgender he was deceived or "stealthed" by a transgender predator that cares nothing for the agency of other people. That man consented to an deceptively implied heterosexual encounter therefore making the whole affair non consensual ie rape.
The same way its rape for a man to deceive a woman into having sex under conditions she didn't not consent to is rape.
It's rape for a transgender to deceive a man into having sex under conditions he did not consent to.
And who the hell wouldn't be okay with a person defending themselves against a person sexually assaulting them?
At that point it is no longer a hate crime but self defense.
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
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Joker_De_La_Lover;c-9913182 said:They can feel how they want. Deceive a man and see what happens
Koltrain;c-9915130 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
Its homophobic if somebody deceive you into tranny sex and you react violently?? And what's the repercussion for misleading somebody into something like that?
LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9915154 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
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Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915213 said:LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9915154 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
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blk trans lives matter
LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9915154 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
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Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915209 said:Koltrain;c-9915130 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
Its homophobic if somebody deceive you into tranny sex and you react violently?? And what's the repercussion for misleading somebody into something like that?
i get tricked into having sex with a trans man i'm 98% sure i'm not going to be tempted in the least to kill that person
i'm going to be mad as hell
but to wish death upon a person nah
i'd probably try to swing on the person to be honest but it would be wrong of me
what should be a proper repercussion for something like that? i dunno
ideally anything but violence
that said, what should be the proper repercussion for someone who misleads another into believing that they are single or lies about how much money they make for the purpose of sex?
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915213 said:LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9915154 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9915106 said:i can't support deception and secrecy ....it's foul
but to advocate for the murder of a person who essentially lied is also wrong joking or not
we have free speech but that speech has consequences and trans folks are experiencing the negative consequences
blk trans women are dying by suicide and by the hands of another at an alarming rate
that said, duval's comments speak to a larger issue with society
homophobia is still a big problem
its why ppl are predisposed to stay in the closet and in the shadows
and why ppl are predisposed to believing death and or violence is a reasonable repercussion or response for being mislead into what some would consider gay sex
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blk trans lives matter