Bobby Seale breaks down difference between New Black Panthers and Original BP

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Don't burn the flag... just come back home

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I dont understand flag burning. It's like burning a jersey. YOu just burning your own property. Its not like a riot where tax payers will feel the burden of your actions. Its just you burning your own shit. But only literally and directly.
 
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OMG, at the beginning of the video, I've seen that guy in dreads who is holding the club. I've seen him at a protest before. Dude is not the most personable guy. lol

Huey Newton said that he never wanted a new Black Panther Party. He said that the party existed in its own time for that specific period, and for other people to find ways of organizing in the years to come. I don't blame New Black Panthers for being angry at racism and white people, but I think that they're being counterproductive. The focus should be on making political and economic assessments about capitalism and community organizing. These new dudes are just ranting. Ranting is good, but it's nothing without grassroots action right now. I never see these dudes in the hood trying to speak to people about any change like with Huey and Bobby.
 
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It seems like as black people of this generation some of us have misconstrued ideas of who we are and we act out of fear instead of pride in who we are so we become like the people that we fought against because we forgot we're we came from.
 
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Bobby made some good points. What good is it doing sitting on the corner spouting anti-white rhetoric if you're not actually doing anything to help uplift the community. These cats got the game all screwed up. They based their whole movement on screaming "Fuck Whitey" as if that's supposed to suddenly make everything better for black people.

SMH @ the chick trying to get Bobby to shit on those dudes. He handled it well though. He explained the differences and upped his party without falling into her trap and giving a soundbite that could be used to publicly denounce the New Black Panthers.
 
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I can't even agree with Bobby Seale on this one, he played right into their hands.
 
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How so? He didn't even denounce them. He just said that the original Black Panther party wasn't about racism or separation from other races or bashing other races. The original party was about freedom from institutional racism and uplifting of the community. Being that he founded them and went through all the drama as a part of them, I think he would know better than anyone what they stood for.

He's also not wrong about the New Black Panthers. They have not shown any of the empowerment efforts that the old party did. That's a fact. They don't seem to stand for what the old party did either because they aren't making any power moves that are orchestrated to better the community. Now I'm not saying they are as bad as the media tries to make them out to be, but they do seem like the typical so called 'black militants" who speak very loudly with words but do very little with actions. Bobby isn't even the only one to say that. Other members of the former party have taken the same stance. Hell, Bobby said in this very interview, that his people have been trying to get him to renounce the new party for years because of they way they have distorted the message of the old party.
 
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DarcSkies777;1029449 said:
I dont understand flag burning. It's like burning a jersey. YOu just burning your own property. Its not like a riot where tax payers will feel the burden of your actions. Its just you burning your own shit. But only literally and directly.

lol word

which makes the conservative obsession with outlawing it that much more funny

nevermind the fact that you could just alter the flag, then burn it, to avoid violating any such law
 
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garv;1030585 said:
I can't even agree with Bobby Seale on this one, he played right into their hands.

Coming from the person that says Cleopatra isn't black, I ain't even gonna care to know why you think this way.
 
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The Lonious Monk;1030621 said:
How so? He didn't even denounce them. He just said that the original Black Panther party wasn't about racism or separation from other races or bashing other races. The original party was about freedom from institutional racism and uplifting of the community. Being that he founded them and went through all the drama as a part of them, I think he would know better than anyone what they stood for.

He's also not wrong about the New Black Panthers. They have not shown any of the empowerment efforts that the old party did. That's a fact. They don't seem to stand for what the old party did either because they aren't making any power moves that are orchestrated to better the community. Now I'm not saying they are as bad as the media tries to make them out to be, but they do seem like the typical so called 'black militants" who speak very loudly with words but do very little with actions. Bobby isn't even the only one to say that. Other members of the former party have taken the same stance. Hell, Bobby said in this very interview, that his people have been trying to get him to renounce the new party for years because of they way they have distorted the message of the old party.

I don't know too much about New Black Panther Party, all i know whas that there former leader Khalid Muhammed was a real freedom fighter. Maybe you could educate me more on the original black panthers as i haven't yet read on them and my knowledge on them is very limited, but i always though they were more militant than Bobby Seale paints them to be. Maybe i got fooled by former Black Panthers like Assata Shakur.

And if i was Bobby Seale i wouldn't come on a program like CNN in the first place, at the end of the day Bobby Seale is here rationalizing his point of view who used to call his party racist years ago, it all seems like infiltration to me by getting a prominent black leader to speak against a new black organization, thats what it seems like to me.

And power moves as in what getting elected to congress i have different opinions on that matter.
 
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Sourpatch Kid;1030652 said:
Coming from the person that says Cleopatra isn't black, I ain't even gonna care to know why you think this way.

Lmao don't even go there brother, i never denied that Kemet was an indigenous African civilization, by the time Cleopatra came to power it was being ruled by foreign powers that did not follow Kemetic customs, so spare me with your bullshit, Cleopatra was not black she was Macedonian.
 
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garv;1030585 said:
I can't even agree with Bobby Seale on this one, he played right into their hands.

I actually agree with this post. Just more CNN mind fuckery at it's best.
 
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cobbland;1031080 said:
The New Black Panther Party could be an FBI front also.

I wouldn't doubt it. All part of the game. Any intelligent brother knows you aint going to wake people up by talking about murdering babies... come on... get real.
 
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Chike;1031132 said:
I wouldn't doubt it. All part of the game. Any intelligent brother knows you aint going to wake people up by talking about murdering babies... come on... get real.

lmao

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