Blog: Black men are the problem

[2stepz_ahead]

would you say that identifies a larger number of black women or a small percentage?

i'd say it identifies more young black women than older.

i'm in no way saying that we don't have a selection to choose from. i'm saying that we all need to do/be better.

i don't really think there's a way to identify 'class'. i think of class like the tax bracket [lower-class, middle-class, upper-class]. there are just certain characteristics that you'll find with each one.

i have realized that some chicks want a thug or no good nigga so they can complain an not feel left out when her friends are complaining.

think about it...most chicks dont want someone around with a good life whos man treats them right. some dont even encourage it.

i know alot of dudes that will tell another man....you should chill you got a good woman.

how many women tell their friend to chill , they got a good man? they rather see them unhappy.

then you have the chicks that need someone fukked up to be with because if they had a good man ...then they gotta act like a good woman otherwise she will look like a fool in public.

it's sounds like your describing someone whose severely mentally ill

its alot of chicks like this...thats why some find a dude that has nothing...now they have a reason to be mad.

if they have a good dude...they have no reason to be mad..unless he himself did something an thats when nitpicking comes in

do u mean that in a 'he doesn't leave a tip' or the katt williams 'that nigga cheated and u gon mess up your relationship over 2-funky-percent'...?

what i mean is....when that type of woman has nothing to complain about she will make something simple into something big an get all extreme to validate her anger issues.

 

[jono]

Man people are wasting their time a lot of these guys are allowing their personal experiences to cloud objectivity. Anyone who truly wants to discuss the story of discrimination between men and women have to accept that both are discriminated against and then discuss why that exists.

I see a lot of people speaking in generalities and these generalities are based off personal experience and nothing else. All these cats trying to psycho-analyze black women using nothing more than some hoodrat up the block is already off the track. Hoodboogers engage in activities the normal person wouldn't, they are hardly the standard bearers for what a black man or woman really is.

Its shameful to see grown men (who are supposedly intelligent & conscious) partaking in the same behavior that the woman who wrote the blog participates in. If she was so terribly wrong for shitting on men, how right are you to diss women? Stop it 5.

Ya'll don't hear me though, I'm a go back to skimming this shit.

 

[xxCivicxx]

lol gtfo with your he-man, anti-feminism, anti-reality rhetoric .... the ol' all blk women date thugs schtick is tired

i will admit yes women have made tremendous strides but there's still more to be done. we still live in a male dominated soceity ... men make the rules. men aren't told what and what they can and cannot do with their OWN bodies...men saturate politics, literature, academia, the tops of businesses, etc.... positive characteristics are associated with being masculine, and negative characteristics are associated with being feminine... men are expected to participate in the public sphere, while women are encouraged to confine themselves to the private sphere, etc and didnt the president just sign the Lilly Ledbetter Act to ensure that women received the same pay as men? the average man is still paid more than the average women. None of the stats you posted so far contradict anything ive said.

now factor in racism... black women are double minorities. we really dont get to enjoy the "luxuries" feminism afforded whites women

take for example, a black woman with a B.A. on average make less than a white male with only a high school diploma.

yes women have made tremendous strides but there's still more to be done

all this is to no fault of the blk man and blk men have it rough as well.... my point again is that blk men like yourself continue to articulate a vision of racial uplift that prioritizes the needs of males, demonizes blk women and valorizes conventional notions of gender roles without giving much thought of the plight of a blk woman. I see it everyday in real life and on the IC. this is counterproductive to the progression of us a people considering racism and sexism go hand and hand

there are blk women that bash bm... but let's not act like blk are saints either

I really don't feel the need to pick apart your entire post because my previous posts already do that. What I will do is educate you about the bold part.

Currently over 60% of college grads are women, and that number is rising. In almost all major cities today, college educated women make, on average 8-17% more money than men their same age. THE AVERAGE MAN IS NOT PAID MORE THAN THE AVERAGE WOMAN ANYMORE. Any time a man is paid more than a woman who holds an equivalent position, the difference can be more than accounted for by maternity leave/sick days and the fact that on average, many women still work less hours in a week AT THE SAME JOB than many men. The '09 recession hit male-dominated fields WAY harder than female-dominated fields. Many many MANY more men lost jobs than women. This is what I mean when I say don't respond to me unless you truly know what you're talking about. Keep taking everyone else's word over the word of the men of your own race and we'll see where black people are in 100 years, if we even still exist.

You have to understand that this is how the feminist movement works. Women are already very far ahead in general these days(hence why almost all commercials/shows/movies/popular novels/music/LAWS cater directly to women today) but the feminist strategy is to keep complaining so that no one notices how well females are doing in relation to males. We live in a zero sum society. For someone to win, someone else has to lose. The losers today are mostly men, but especially black men. You don't have to accept these facts, I truly do not care whether you do or you do not, but the fact that you can't even acknowledge them speaks volumes about your intelligence imo. You're complaining about social pressure that is being applied to women. I'm speaking about actual physical negative consequences of man bashing/feminism on men. I want my people to succeed in every way possible. For that to happen problems have to be analyzed thoroughly so that solutions can be created and applied. Feminist thinking is a sickness that not just killing the black community, it's killing any community that it touches. There is and has been since Reconstruction a systematic plan put in place where the goal is to eliminate black men from this nation

I also find it odd how I never see the guys who tell me that they refuse to call women 'bitches' actually with any women. I also rarely see seld-proclaimed feminist men with any women. Think about that.

And once again, until you have something of value to contribute to the discussion, please don't respond to me.This is getting boring.

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

Was basically gon type this. Lol @ "black women shit on him", like that nigga has no part in choosing the type of women he fucks with.

....

I have a buddy who has women problems. He's about 5'5 (swears he's 5'9) a nice guy type of dude. He gets SHITTED on by black women. This is a nigga who owns a very successful business. All these chicks seem to do is pick him apart. I asked him, "why don't you date mexicans, whites, asians etc. This nigga refuses to even date outside the race. I'm not saying this will solve his woman prollems, but at least expand your dating pool. If you're a "regular cat" and getting shitted on by your own....move around.

Americans have to stop being so simplistic...acting like RACE is the only factor. There could be several other qualities or background similarities that he can identify in the women who are giving him a hard time.

Expanding your dating pool doesn't have to include different races, it could include different places, people with different interests that you may not have considered before, evaluating some of the rigid guidelines of your own that may be illogical or not as important as you originally thought, etc.

 

[xxCivicxx]

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

That is news to me.

Some black men won't take a chance on a different type of black chick. And don't let her speak proper! An associate of mine said she used to speak proper but switched up her speech so she could date black men. I have that problem sometimes with black men. They judge me the wrong way until they get to know me and see I'm "down". Lol

I would not say it doesn't happen, but black women are much more unforgiving for this. At least black men don't dismiss you right off the bat for that. I am not so lucky. (How much this is an issue may vary in different parts of the country.)

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

false.....guys will talk to anyone thats fine...

And men don't do the same thing??? And I often see a dude that will pass up a classy black woman for a ghetto hoodrat Shaniqua. Happens all the time bro! Both black women and men have issues and we need to work on it!

thats because classy chicks tend to be high maintenance,. we are saving ourselves a headache.

what are chicks passing up the same type of dude for?

So you rather be with someone that's ratchet? Not all classy women are high maintenance. Define high maintenance please?



I agree that chicks is passing up classy black men for the Tyrones (thugs).

And combined with the bolded, the whole situation just makes my blood boil. No other race do you find accomplished men getting turned down for speaking proper and in favor of thugs anywhere near as much.

Wrong. Women being infatuated with the guy who considered the bad boy is not exclusive to black women. Some white women are dating black men for the taboo factor....

How does this refute what he said at all...

 

[taeboo]

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

That is news to me.

Some black men won't take a chance on a different type of black chick. And don't let her speak proper! An associate of mine said she used to speak proper but switched up her speech so she could date black men. I have that problem sometimes with black men. They judge me the wrong way until they get to know me and see I'm "down". Lol

I would not say it doesn't happen, but black women are much more unforgiving for this. At least black men don't dismiss you right off the bat for that. I am not so lucky. (How much this is an issue may vary in different parts of the country.)

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

false.....guys will talk to anyone thats fine...

And men don't do the same thing??? And I often see a dude that will pass up a classy black woman for a ghetto hoodrat Shaniqua. Happens all the time bro! Both black women and men have issues and we need to work on it!

thats because classy chicks tend to be high maintenance,. we are saving ourselves a headache.

what are chicks passing up the same type of dude for?

So you rather be with someone that's ratchet? Not all classy women are high maintenance. Define high maintenance please?



I agree that chicks is passing up classy black men for the Tyrones (thugs).

And combined with the bolded, the whole situation just makes my blood boil. No other race do you find accomplished men getting turned down for speaking proper and in favor of thugs anywhere near as much.

Wrong. Women being infatuated with the guy who considered thed boy is not exclusive to black women. Some white women are dating black men for the taboo factor....[

How does this refute what he said at all...

Because he said No other race does this as much. There are many sites urging white men to go look for a foreign wife because white women here don't know a good man when she sees one.

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

du

Was basically gon type this. Lol @ "black women shit on him", like that nigga has no part in choosing the type of women he fucks with.

....

I have a buddy who has women problems. He's about 5'5 (swears he's 5'9) a nice guy type of dude. He gets SHITTED on by black women. This is a nigga who owns a very successful business. All these chicks seem to do is pick him apart. I asked him, "why don't you date mexicans, whites, asians etc. This nigga refuses to even date outside the race. I'm not saying this will solve his woman prollems, but at least expand your dating pool. If you're a "regular cat" and getting shitted on by your own....move around.

Americans have to stop being so simplistic...acting like RACE is the only factor. There could be several other qualities or background similarities that he can identify in the women who are giving him a hard time.

Expanding your dating pool doesn't have to include different races, it could include different places, people with different interests that you may not have considered before, evaluating some of the rigid guidelines of your own that may be illogical or not as important as you originally thought, etc.

So basically you're telling me that my boy is "choosing " bad women. How convenient... I really can't dispute that he chooses bad women, however, all of these bad women are black. I hope he moves around...maybe he'll see something different. He's a really good dude and deserves better.

 

[Undefeatable]

Man people are wasting their time a lot of these guys are allowing their personal experiences to cloud objectivity. Anyone who truly wants to discuss the story of discrimination between men and women have to accept that both are discriminated against and then discuss why that exists.

I see a lot of people speaking in generalities and these generalities are based off personal experience and nothing else. All these cats trying to psycho-analyze black women using nothing more than some hoodrat up the block is already off the track. Hoodboogers engage in activities the normal person wouldn't, they are hardly the standard bearers for what a black man or woman really is.

Its shameful to see grown men (who are supposedly intelligent & conscious) partaking in the same behavior that the woman who wrote the blog participates in. If she was so terribly wrong for shitting on men, how right are you to diss women? Stop it 5.

Ya'll don't hear me though, I'm a go back to skimming this shit.

It doesn't matter if the average black woman is not a hoodrat. They exist (and not in insignificant numbers), and they distort the dating scene. And don't pretend that some of these problems don't apply to other black women.

Anyway, nobody is saying anything approaching the level of hate expressed in the OP. In fact the discussion lately isn't what I expected. I make this thread to prove to these oblivious dudes that BW are increasingly turning against us. It may not be as obvious in the hood, but its happening.

 

[Undefeatable]

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

That is news to me.

Some black men won't take a chance on a different type of black chick. And don't let her speak proper! An associate of mine said she used to speak proper but switched up her speech so she could date black men. I have that problem sometimes with black men. They judge me the wrong way until they get to know me and see I'm "down". Lol

I would not say it doesn't happen, but black women are much more unforgiving for this. At least black men don't dismiss you right off the bat for that. I am not so lucky. (How much this is an issue may vary in different parts of the country.)

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

false.....guys will talk to anyone thats fine...

And men don't do the same thing??? And I often see a dude that will pass up a classy black woman for a ghetto hoodrat Shaniqua. Happens all the time bro! Both black women and men have issues and we need to work on it!

thats because classy chicks tend to be high maintenance,. we are saving ourselves a headache.

what are chicks passing up the same type of dude for?

So you rather be with someone that's ratchet? Not all classy women are high maintenance. Define high maintenance please?



I agree that chicks is passing up classy black men for the Tyrones (thugs).

And combined with the bolded, the whole situation just makes my blood boil. No other race do you find accomplished men getting turned down for speaking proper and in favor of thugs anywhere near as much.

Wrong. Women being infatuated with the guy who considered the bad boy is not exclusive to black women. Some white women are dating black men for the taboo factor....

How does this refute what he said at all...

Because he said No other race does this...

That's not what I said. Reread it.

 

[politicalthug202]

it is black womans fault, in nature evolution says that woman are suppose to pick the best mates

to provide the best enviroment for their children through out history weaker strands of males

have died out because they could not provide for their offspring. but at some point in the 60's black woman

started producing with weak males that couldnt provide, if there are weak dudes around you go to walmart

get 9.00 birth control,and dont have any kids, then only the strong males , who can strive in society

will reproduce and they will have kids who can strive, but it starts with woman setting the criteria for procreation.

other races have figured this out

 

[taeboo]

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

That is news to me.

Some black men won't take a chance on a different type of black chick. And don't let her speak proper! An associate of mine said she used to speak proper but switched up her speech so she could date black men. I have that problem sometimes with black men. They judge me the wrong way until they get to know me and see I'm "down". Lol

I would not say it doesn't happen, but black women are much more unforgiving for this. At least black men don't dismiss you right off the bat for that. I am not so lucky. (How much this is an issue may vary in different parts of the country.)

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

false.....guys will talk to anyone thats fine...

And men don't do the same thing??? And I often see a dude that will pass up a classy black woman for a ghetto hoodrat Shaniqua. Happens all the time bro! Both black women and men have issues and we need to work on it!

thats because classy chicks tend to be high maintenance,. we are saving ourselves a headache.

what are chicks passing up the same type of dude for?

So you rather be with someone that's ratchet? Not all classy women are high maintenance. Define high maintenance please?



I agree that chicks is passing up classy black men for the Tyrones (thugs).

And combined with the bolded, the whole situation just makes my blood boil. No other race do you find accomplished men getting turned down for speaking proper and in favor of thugs anywhere near as much.

Wrong. Women being infatuated with the guy who considered the bad boy is not exclusive to black women. Some white women are dating black men for the taboo factor....

How does this refute what he said at all...

Because he said No other race does this...

That's not what I said. Reread it.

I edited what wrote.

 

[jono]

Man people are wasting their time a lot of these guys are allowing their personal experiences to cloud objectivity. Anyone who truly wants to discuss the story of discrimination between men and women have to accept that both are discriminated against and then discuss why that exists.

I see a lot of people speaking in generalities and these generalities are based off personal experience and nothing else. All these cats trying to psycho-analyze black women using nothing more than some hoodrat up the block is already off the track. Hoodboogers engage in activities the normal person wouldn't, they are hardly the standard bearers for what a black man or woman really is.

Its shameful to see grown men (who are supposedly intelligent & conscious) partaking in the same behavior that the woman who wrote the blog participates in. If she was so terribly wrong for shitting on men, how right are you to diss women? Stop it 5.

Ya'll don't hear me though, I'm a go back to skimming this shit.

It doesn't matter if the average black woman is not a hoodrat. They exist (and not in insignificant numbers), and they distort the dating scene. And don't pretend that some of these problems don't apply to other black women.

Anyway, nobody is saying anything approaching the level of hate expressed in the OP. In fact the discussion lately isn't what I expected. I make this thread to prove to that these oblivious dudes that BW are increasingly turning against us. It may not be as obvious in the hood, but its happening.

Stop being ridiculous black women aren't "turning against us". Women like the broad in the blog are a vocal minority. If you have some proof of otherwise then drop the citation.

Garbage ass niggas distort the dating scene too, why aren't we discussing that? There's plenty well understood and valid bitterness on both sides.

Were are ya'll niggas when cats like this TJ Sotomayor nigga are dissing black women? This topic has at least double the activity of that topic and that dude has multiple videos dissing the sisters...is it fair to say he represents you? He doesn't represent ME in the least, so why is this bloggin' bitch a representative of black women everywhere?

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

du

Was basically gon type this. Lol @ "black women shit on him", like that nigga has no part in choosing the type of women he fucks with.

....

I have a buddy who has women problems. He's about 5'5 (swears he's 5'9) a nice guy type of dude. He gets SHITTED on by black women. This is a nigga who owns a very successful business. All these chicks seem to do is pick him apart. I asked him, "why don't you date mexicans, whites, asians etc. This nigga refuses to even date outside the race. I'm not saying this will solve his woman prollems, but at least expand your dating pool. If you're a "regular cat" and getting shitted on by your own....move around.

Americans have to stop being so simplistic...acting like RACE is the only factor. There could be several other qualities or background similarities that he can identify in the women who are giving him a hard time.

Expanding your dating pool doesn't have to include different races, it could include different places, people with different interests that you may not have considered before, evaluating some of the rigid guidelines of your own that may be illogical or not as important as you originally thought, etc.

So basically you're telling me that my boy is "choosing " bad women. How convenient... I really can't dispute that he chooses bad women, however, all of these bad women are black. I hope he moves around...maybe he'll see something different. He's a really good dude and deserves better.

How is your warped way of thinking ANY different than when black chicks claim all niggas ain't shit cuz she keeps choosing the same type of man? You admitted your homie chooses bad women. That's his fault, he'd choose bad women of any race. The way you're trying so hard to blame bw for your friend's lousy taste in women makes me doubt that u even black.

 

[Undefeatable]

Man people are wasting their time a lot of these guys are allowing their personal experiences to cloud objectivity. Anyone who truly wants to discuss the story of discrimination between men and women have to accept that both are discriminated against and then discuss why that exists.

I see a lot of people speaking in generalities and these generalities are based off personal experience and nothing else. All these cats trying to psycho-analyze black women using nothing more than some hoodrat up the block is already off the track. Hoodboogers engage in activities the normal person wouldn't, they are hardly the standard bearers for what a black man or woman really is.

Its shameful to see grown men (who are supposedly intelligent & conscious) partaking in the same behavior that the woman who wrote the blog participates in. If she was so terribly wrong for shitting on men, how right are you to diss women? Stop it 5.

Ya'll don't hear me though, I'm a go back to skimming this shit.

It doesn't matter if the average black woman is not a hoodrat. They exist (and not in insignificant numbers), and they distort the dating scene. And don't pretend that some of these problems don't apply to other black women.

Anyway, nobody is saying anything approaching the level of hate expressed in the OP. In fact the discussion lately isn't what I expected. I make this thread to prove to that these oblivious dudes that BW are increasingly turning against us. It may not be as obvious in the hood, but its happening.

Stop being ridiculous black women aren't "turning against us". Women like the broad in the blog are a vocal minority. If you have some proof of otherwise then drop the citation.

Garbage ass niggas distort the dating scene too, why aren't we discussing that? There's plenty well understood and valid bitterness on both sides.

Were are ya'll niggas when cats like this TJ Sotomayor nigga are dissing black women? This topic has at least double the activity of that topic and that dude has multiple videos dissing the sisters...is it fair to say he represents you? He doesn't represent ME in the least, so why is this bloggin' bitch a representative of black women everywhere?

Saying they are turning against us doesn't mean they're a majority.

Yes, dudes do that too. But women are a more serious problem because they are the ones who make the decisions about who to be with.

I've said it more than one that I think Tommy is disrespectful. E.g. :http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/comment/5641180/#Comment_5641180

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

du

Was basically gon type this. Lol @ "black women shit on him", like that nigga has no part in choosing the type of women he fucks with.

....

I have a buddy who has women problems. He's about 5'5 (swears he's 5'9) a nice guy type of dude. He gets SHITTED on by black women. This is a nigga who owns a very successful business. All these chicks seem to do is pick him apart. I asked him, "why don't you date mexicans, whites, asians etc. This nigga refuses to even date outside the race. I'm not saying this will solve his woman prollems, but at least expand your dating pool. If you're a "regular cat" and getting shitted on by your own....move around.

Americans have to stop being so simplistic...acting like RACE is the only factor. There could be several other qualities or background similarities that he can identify in the women who are giving him a hard time.

Expanding your dating pool doesn't have to include different races, it could include different places, people with different interests that you may not have considered before, evaluating some of the rigid guidelines of your own that may be illogical or not as important as you originally thought, etc.

So basically you're telling me that my boy is "choosing " bad women. How convenient... I really can't dispute that he chooses bad women, however, all of these bad women are black. I hope he moves around...maybe he'll see something different. He's a really good dude and deserves better.

How is your warped way of thinking ANY different than when black chicks claim all niggas ain't shit cuz she keeps choosing the same type of man? You admitted your homie chooses bad women. That's his fault, he'd choose bad women of any race. The way you're trying so hard to blame bw for your friend's lousy taste in women makes me doubt that u even black.

First of all... I got my real pic up. Second of all... I could give a fuck less what you "think" nigga. Third of all... most niggas aint shit ... so they would be right. I admitted my friend chooses bad women, but they have ALL been black! To me, it makes sense to try something different.

My wife is black, my child is black, but some dudes (nice guys) don't fare well with the MAJORITY of black women. You say he chooses bad women in general but how would the nigga know unless he tried something else. Yall act like its a sin to date outside your race.

 

[jono]

Man people are wasting their time a lot of these guys are allowing their personal experiences to cloud objectivity. Anyone who truly wants to discuss the story of discrimination between men and women have to accept that both are discriminated against and then discuss why that exists.

I see a lot of people speaking in generalities and these generalities are based off personal experience and nothing else. All these cats trying to psycho-analyze black women using nothing more than some hoodrat up the block is already off the track. Hoodboogers engage in activities the normal person wouldn't, they are hardly the standard bearers for what a black man or woman really is.

Its shameful to see grown men (who are supposedly intelligent & conscious) partaking in the same behavior that the woman who wrote the blog participates in. If she was so terribly wrong for shitting on men, how right are you to diss women? Stop it 5.

Ya'll don't hear me though, I'm a go back to skimming this shit.

It doesn't matter if the average black woman is not a hoodrat. They exist (and not in insignificant numbers), and they distort the dating scene. And don't pretend that some of these problems don't apply to other black women.

Anyway, nobody is saying anything approaching the level of hate expressed in the OP. In fact the discussion lately isn't what I expected. I make this thread to prove to that these oblivious dudes that BW are increasingly turning against us. It may not be as obvious in the hood, but its happening.

Stop being ridiculous black women aren't "turning against us". Women like the broad in the blog are a vocal minority. If you have some proof of otherwise then drop the citation.

Garbage ass niggas distort the dating scene too, why aren't we discussing that? There's plenty well understood and valid bitterness on both sides.

Were are ya'll niggas when cats like this TJ Sotomayor nigga are dissing black women? This topic has at least double the activity of that topic and that dude has multiple videos dissing the sisters...is it fair to say he represents you? He doesn't represent ME in the least, so why is this bloggin' bitch a representative of black women everywhere?

Saying they are turning against us doesn't mean they're a majority.

Yes, dudes do that too. But women are a more serious problem because they are the ones who make the decisions about who to be with.

I've said it more than one that I think Tommy is disrespectful. E.g. :http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/comment/5641180/#Comment_5641180

Men don't decide who they are with?

 

[Undefeatable]

Man people are wasting their time a lot of these guys are allowing their personal experiences to cloud objectivity. Anyone who truly wants to discuss the story of discrimination between men and women have to accept that both are discriminated against and then discuss why that exists.

I see a lot of people speaking in generalities and these generalities are based off personal experience and nothing else. All these cats trying to psycho-analyze black women using nothing more than some hoodrat up the block is already off the track. Hoodboogers engage in activities the normal person wouldn't, they are hardly the standard bearers for what a black man or woman really is.

Its shameful to see grown men (who are supposedly intelligent & conscious) partaking in the same behavior that the woman who wrote the blog participates in. If she was so terribly wrong for shitting on men, how right are you to diss women? Stop it 5.

Ya'll don't hear me though, I'm a go back to skimming this shit.

It doesn't matter if the average black woman is not a hoodrat. They exist (and not in insignificant numbers), and they distort the dating scene. And don't pretend that some of these problems don't apply to other black women.

Anyway, nobody is saying anything approaching the level of hate expressed in the OP. In fact the discussion lately isn't what I expected. I make this thread to prove to that these oblivious dudes that BW are increasingly turning against us. It may not be as obvious in the hood, but its happening.

Stop being ridiculous black women aren't "turning against us". Women like the broad in the blog are a vocal minority. If you have some proof of otherwise then drop the citation.

Garbage ass niggas distort the dating scene too, why aren't we discussing that? There's plenty well understood and valid bitterness on both sides.

Were are ya'll niggas when cats like this TJ Sotomayor nigga are dissing black women? This topic has at least double the activity of that topic and that dude has multiple videos dissing the sisters...is it fair to say he represents you? He doesn't represent ME in the least, so why is this bloggin' bitch a representative of black women everywhere?

Saying they are turning against us doesn't mean they're a majority.

Yes, dudes do that too. But women are a more serious problem because they are the ones who make the decisions about who to be with.

I've said it more than one that I think Tommy is disrespectful. E.g. :http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/comment/5641180/#Comment_5641180

Men don't decide who they are with?

I was hoping you wouldn't respond this way. You know what I mean.

 

[desertrain10]

lol gtfo with your he-man, anti-feminism, anti-reality rhetoric .... the ol' all blk women date thugs schtick is tired

i will admit yes women have made tremendous strides but there's still more to be done. we still live in a male dominated soceity ... men make the rules. men aren't told what and what they can and cannot do with their OWN bodies...men saturate politics, literature, academia, the tops of businesses, etc.... positive characteristics are associated with being masculine, and negative characteristics are associated with being feminine... men are expected to participate in the public sphere, while women are encouraged to confine themselves to the private sphere, etc and didnt the president just sign the Lilly Ledbetter Act to ensure that women received the same pay as men? the average man is still paid more than the average women. None of the stats you posted so far contradict anything ive said.

now factor in racism... black women are double minorities. we really dont get to enjoy the "luxuries" feminism afforded whites women

take for example, a black woman with a B.A. on average make less than a white male with only a high school diploma.

yes women have made tremendous strides but there's still more to be done

all this is to no fault of the blk man and blk men have it rough as well.... my point again is that blk men like yourself continue to articulate a vision of racial uplift that prioritizes the needs of males, demonizes blk women and valorizes conventional notions of gender roles without giving much thought of the plight of a blk woman. I see it everyday in real life and on the IC. this is counterproductive to the progression of us a people considering racism and sexism go hand and hand

there are blk women that bash bm... but let's not act like blk are saints either

I really don't feel the need to pick apart your entire post because my previous posts already do that. What I will do is educate you about the bold part.

Currently over 60% of college grads are women, and that number is rising. In almost all major cities today, college educated women make, on average 8-17% more money than men their same age. THE AVERAGE MAN IS NOT PAID MORE THAN THE AVERAGE WOMAN ANYMORE. Any time a man is paid more than a woman who holds an equivalent position, the difference can be more than accounted for by maternity leave/sick days and the fact that on average, many women still work less hours in a week AT THE SAME JOB than many men. The '09 recession hit male-dominated fields WAY harder than female-dominated fields. Many many MANY more men lost jobs than women. This is what I mean when I say don't respond to me unless you truly know what you're talking about. Keep taking everyone else's word over the word of the men of your own race and we'll see where black people are in 100 years, if we even still exist.

You have to understand that this is how the feminist movement works. Women are already very far ahead in general these days(hence why almost all commercials/shows/movies/popular novels/music/LAWS cater directly to women today) but the feminist strategy is to keep complaining so that no one notices how well females are doing in relation to males. We live in a zero sum society. For someone to win, someone else has to lose. The losers today are mostly men, but especially black men. You don't have to accept these facts, I truly do not care whether you do or you do not, but the fact that you can't even acknowledge them speaks volumes about your intelligence imo. You're complaining about social pressure that is being applied to women. I'm speaking about actual physical negative consequences of man bashing/feminism on men. I want my people to succeed in every way possible. For that to happen problems have to be analyzed thoroughly so that solutions can be created and applied. Feminist thinking is a sickness that not just killing the black community, it's killing any community that it touches. There is and has been since Reconstruction a systematic plan put in place where the goal is to eliminate black men from this nation

I also find it odd how I never see the guys who tell me that they refuse to call women 'bitches' actually with any women. I also rarely see seld-proclaimed feminist men with any women. Think about that.

And once again, until you have something of value to contribute to the discussion, please don't respond to me.This is getting boring.

lol

again none of the stats youve posted so far has contradicted anything ive said

And i see no citations to back up your claims

Ur struggling to win an argument, while im trying to have an open and honest dialogue so yea lets agree to disgree

 

[desertrain10]

Man people are wasting their time a lot of these guys are allowing their personal experiences to cloud objectivity. Anyone who truly wants to discuss the story of discrimination between men and women have to accept that both are discriminated against and then discuss why that exists.

I see a lot of people speaking in generalities and these generalities are based off personal experience and nothing else. All these cats trying to psycho-analyze black women using nothing more than some hoodrat up the block is already off the track. Hoodboogers engage in activities the normal person wouldn't, they are hardly the standard bearers for what a black man or woman really is.

Its shameful to see grown men (who are supposedly intelligent & conscious) partaking in the same behavior that the woman who wrote the blog participates in. If she was so terribly wrong for shitting on men, how right are you to diss women? Stop it 5.

Ya'll don't hear me though, I'm a go back to skimming this shit.

GOAT

 

[GeminiRose]

I didnt read but in fairness. Most of you niggas REALLY aint shit. So Im sure its at least 35% truth in that wall of Niggress hate.

That said most human beings in general arent worth a fuck so its not necessarily race centric. The only real problem is people dont realize the person they attract says a lot about them. Easier to blame others than look internally.

If your Girlfriends are all attractive but stupid it says you're shallow.

If your boyfriends keep beating you it says you need to learn to STFU or keep your hands to yourself.

They things you go through in your relationships say a lot about YOU more than they say about the other person. And until everybody white, black or otherwise can admit that they will continue on that same bitter road. Not to say that everything is YOUR fault. But your reaction to everything because your responsibility.

I think the fact that a good number of people still don't really socialize outside their direct race/ethnic group for the most part still contributes to many of the "grass is greener on the other side" or "I bet *whatever race i'm not of men/women don't do this" thought processes by people. I say it often that one of the main reason that black men seem to go so hard on black women and not women of any other race/ethnicity is because the majority still only deal with black woman so when they complain about women as a whole, because 98.9% of their experience with women are with black women that's who they're directing it at. If they had more experiences with different women they'd see the complaints are pretty much the same across the board.

But there are real differences between black and non-black women. To mention just one, non-black women won't turn down a brother anywhere near as much for not sounding stereotypically black. Don't try to act like there aren't some cultural differences between blacks and whites.

You can say the same about black men!

false.....guys will talk to anyone thats fine...

And men don't do the same thing??? And I often see a dude that will pass up a classy black woman for a ghetto hoodrat Shaniqua. Happens all the time bro! Both black women and men have issues and we need to work on it!

Probably cause Shaniqua a freak, and she busting it open.

And Stacey can't be one too? See that's the problem. Men think these hoodrats are putting it down in the bedroom, not all are!

but most of those ratchet chicks...dont act all stuck up like they cant put they mouth on a penis.

one thing i learned is that alot of high maintenance chicks dont feel like they have to fukk good..they feel like you should be honored they are letting you hit it an they dont have to do extra work. why you think so many pretty chicks are getting cheated on with ugly chicks or walmart workers

Let's be honest....some men cheat just to cheat so it don't matter. What high maintenance chicks you come across? I come across a lot of hood chicks that suck. I used to think like you but oh how my eyes were opened especiall one day........lol not gonna say.