Blog: Black men are the problem

[LUClEN]

White women are the problem

 

[Undefeatable]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

hold yourself to a higher standard an we will do the same.

i cant treat you like a hoe if you dont allow me to.

if you gave me the ass because i have a phd an benz then you get treated just like every other chick that gave me the ass for the same reasons.

act like a lady and i will treat you like one.

men cant be whore mongers if there are no whores.

these are the women you glorify....not us

but you cant act like a whore an want to be treated like a lady, just like you cant expect a thug to act like gentlemen.

look for better people and not what they can provide for you and you will find the personality you are looking for.

but you have to be able to live up to his standards also...which alot of chicks seem to forget

 

[jono]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

You trolling?

 

[Undefeatable]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

You trolling?

You don't think black women are more acceptable to White America? This seems obvious to me.

 

[jono]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

You trolling?

You don't think black women are more acceptable to White America? This seems obvious to me.

Yeah its obvious to me you trolling lol. That's some ignorant shit you talking, you might want to do some research.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

White ppl hate black women

 

[NIKE...]

One thing I've learned about being a black man from my youth to now is If I don't see and show the best of me, nobody else will and that leaves room for persecution and unnecessary opposition..

I can talk about history and stats all day but when it boils down, it's all about who I am as a man..outside of race and within the bounderies of race, if I can't stand on my own and take responsibility for my actions, I'm really nothing, regardless of my race..

Alot of niggas and brothers are too judgemental of the next man bcuz they feel inferior and feel the need to make comparisons and develope a competitive environment amongst peers..

As a whole I feel black men need to unite for peace and properity for our bloodlines..the future generations..alot of cats that make it, don't give back and alot of cats that don't have shit are in a survivalist frame of mind..black hollywood doesn't exist bcuz black dollars don't go back into black hollywood..if a black director becomes famous and is a money maker, he crosses over..so now his talent goes to making white dollars..

We have a nation of women not knowing how to be with a black man and vice versa bcuz as a whole I feel our race has been groomed to be confrontational over nuturing..we have forgotten how to talk and be honest with each other..

All I know is a black woman has no place talking down on the black man simply bcuz she isn't a black man..just like I really can't address and generalize all black women..the goal should be to uplift not chastise

 

[KingJamal]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

You trolling?

You don't think black women are more acceptable to White America? This seems obvious to me.

Black women are double minorities

They get it really bad

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

You trolling?

You don't think black women are more acceptable to White America? This seems obvious to me.

Black women are double minorities

They get it really bad

an we dont?

a black woman can walk into a room an people will look comment an may snub her

a black man walks into a room an everyone automatically take notice...we are an immediate threat..pocketbooks get found an watched now...dudes stick they chest out a bit more.

the room begins to watch his every move.

this can be a good and bad thing...but most of the time...a nigga like me dont want to be bothered an just want some moscato.

 

[ImTheKangRoundHere]

black man aint the problem

 

[ghostdog56]

When I was growing up I watched my father go to work everyday and pay the bills and I assumed that is how a man is supposed to be, but when I got older I found out it was all a lie these black women didnt care I owned two homes and had a nice job it seems they would rather have a nigga who has nothing so they can complain. The reality is most black women dont even know what a man is because they were raised in a home with no man in it that is why I am trying to only date women who were raised in a two parent household but that is about as hard to find as a black woman with no kids.

 

[ptnutz]

I'd bet this fat bish would say I'm "weak" and/or "boring" because I don't fit into her BET reinforced stereotype. Kind of like Skyler said, if you don't want "ain't shit niggas", you got to quit being an "ain't shit female". Wouldn't waste my time on a female like this because black men fall into 2 categories to her: dog or weak. She couldn't even appreciate a for real ass black man because she'd be too busy looking for things to put you into one of her 2 preconceived notions.

What really kills me is bishes like this will get shit on by white men and not have a problem with it. In fact they would make the same excuses for her white "God" that she trashes other black women for when they do the same thing for black men.

 

[desertrain10]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

You trolling?

You don't think black women are more acceptable to White America? This seems obvious to me.

Black women are double minorities

They get it really bad

an we dont?

a black woman can walk into a room an people will look comment an may snub her

a black man walks into a room an everyone automatically take notice...we are an immediate threat..pocketbooks get found an watched now...dudes stick they chest out a bit more.

the room begins to watch his every move.

this can be a good and bad thing...but most of the time...a nigga like me dont want to be bothered an just want some moscato.

lol

fact is minority women face double discrimination in the workplace because of their race, we get paid less than blk men, as women of color face the social expectation of having to care for dependents and the perception is often that we are not as dedicated of workers as our male counterparts, we have to face the same bias/prejudices in the criminal justice system, we have to worry about being taken advantaged of by men, etc

i could go on and on

but i dunno why yall keep trying to make this a contest though. smh....

 

[NoCompetition]

Black women have it incredibly rough in this world, I will agree that a lot of Black men don't recognize that or do anything to help them. Black men got it hard but Black women have it twice as hard being double minorities.

yes, yes

when it comes sexism black men ( not all but more than a few) are either silent, in denial and/or quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege

take for example, in regards to issues that effect blk women in particular like single motherhood, domestic violence, and poverty they rather question a woman's moral character, emotional/mental state, intelligence, etc instead of addressing the challenges sexism as well as racism pose for these women

and no its not just black men, its all men. the opportunity to degrade/objectify women never fails to bring them together

Sexism is not as bad for black women as racism is bad for black men. Not even close. It is more acceptable to Non-Black America to be black if you're a woman than if a man. Far more.

lol this is not a contest or am i trolling, bruh. just trying to have an honest discussion

and at the end of the day black women have to deal with sexism AND racism in a country where not only more than half of americans living in poverty are women but a growing number of politicians are arguing that a woman should not have control of her own womb....

smh. you will never know what it's like to feel the pressure of going through life attempting to push beyond boundaries that society has placed on me because not only because i am blk but i am also a woman. so please don't act like you do.

yes, sexism has always existed in the larger U.S. culture, which was and is a white, male dominated culture so fuck the author of the article/letter whatever it is in the o/p. but lets not act like blk men haven't been complicit it, unwittingly or not.

Nothing you said even challenges what I said, which is that the racism black men face is worse than the sexism and racism black women face put together.

again this is not a contest

lol obviously my post are going over your head so let's just agree to disagree

Ok, so you're making a different point. I'm not insensitive to sexism, but I do think black men alone get the full force of anti-black racism.

You trolling?

You don't think black women are more acceptable to White America? This seems obvious to me.

Black women are double minorities

They get it really bad

an we dont?

a black woman can walk into a room an people will look comment an may snub her

a black man walks into a room an everyone automatically take notice...we are an immediate threat..pocketbooks get found an watched now...dudes stick they chest out a bit more.

the room begins to watch his every move.

this can be a good and bad thing...but most of the time...a nigga like me dont want to be bothered an just want some moscato.

lol

minority women face double discrimination in the workplace because of their race, we get paid less than blk men, as women of color face the social expectation of having to care for dependents and the perception is often that they are not as dedicated of workers as their male counterparts, we have to face the same bias/prejudices in the criminal justice system, etc

i could go on and on

but i dunno why yall keep trying to make this a contest though. smh....

Smh indeed. The emotions definitely dont just come from the women. See this site any day.

 

[TheIraq]

Scorned black women smh.............................................. They lay up and have kids with a bum ass nigga....... Nigga dont take care of his shit then ALL BLACK MEN are that way lmao........ Logic is flawed........ Glad I dont have kids............

 

[2stepz_ahead]

it not a competition ....we just dont wanna hear it.yall want yall story to be heard but when someone say we go thru it too...now its a competition...yet we are the problem.

so you dont paid as much...so the fukk what. not trying to minimize it but...we deal with that shit too...an a black woman is more likely to get a promotion before a black man.

i could go on...but chicks dont wanna hear they are not alone

 

[Darth Sidious]

Wow, you don't see this often on the IC

 

[xxCivicxx]

lol this is what i am talking about

instead of acknowledging the plight of black women and the sexism which serves to marginalize blk women that exist within our communities, you want to make this all about black men and question the character/intelligence of blk women. but its not our fault we aren't paid as much as men, we are often times overlooked for promotions in the workplace, we still are fighting for our reproductive rights , 1/4 women will be raped in her life time, etc

fact is black women routinely jump to defense of a black man. black women were the backbone of the civil rights movement. and today we are the ones on the ground leading the way in protests for the civil rights of both men and women, and demanding that our political voice is heard

but how can this relationship be called an equal partnership and how can we move forward when black men refuse to acknowledge sexism is still a very real problem in this country or are quick to invoke their patriarchal privilege thus supporting the idea that a group can and should be targeted, thus cementing their own marginalization

smh. take time to understand a black woman's pov instead of derailing the topic and making it about black men i.e. you. which most people in privilege social standing usually do when confronted.

yes you are man and being a man is global privilege.... black women have two oppressed social standings against them like most women of color. the first things to progress our understanding of each other is to listen. so please take a seat and listen young man...

Ok so I present facts and you present emotions and somehow I'm the bad guy. Did I specifically say that black men have it worse off than black women? No. I listed facts and you INFERRED that from the information that I presented. Then you predictably fall right back on feminist rhetoric.

1. In most major cities college grad women get paid(on average) 8-17% more than men the same age.

2. Affirmative action has seen more white women unfairly promoted to higher positions than any other combination of gender/race

3. Immediately after conception, a woman holds 100% power over the fate of that child. The father of the child has no control or even any say as to whether he even wants to be a father or not.

4. "1/4 of women will be raped in their lifetime" is the absolute pinnacle of bullshit(and absolutely false) statistics. Why don't you tell me the statistics for false rape charges? Or how about cuckholdry statistics. There's another thread on the front page of this very forum about a dude being forced to pay child support on a kid that wasn't his for like 8 years just because he signed the birth certificate of the child(thinking it was his)

5. If black women were truly the back bone of the civil rights movement then it's no wonder that it was an overall bust, black women largely disappeared from that movement as soon as the feminist movement came along

6. Do you truly believe that your political voice will be heard in any legitimate way?

And again with the victimization of women. You should really take a look around. ALL MEN(not just black men) are falling behind women when it comes to high school diplomas, college diplomas, stable careers, the jobrate in general, wages, you name it. These are facts. Then again, I wouldn't expect a person who probably jumped at the chance to use buzzwords like "privilege" and "oppressed" in a post to do their own research most of them just regurgitate rhetoric

Please, please don't try and patronize because when I say that you don't know what you are talking about I really really mean it. I really do this. When it comes to learning about the history of our people(or really learning in general) you are not in my league. Wtf can you teach me when you yourself are stating inaccuracies as if they were law? In my opinion the black man/black woman combo represents the pinnacle of human development, both physically and intellectually. I'm probably more pro-black than you can even understand. I'm the type of person that searches for ACTUAL solutions, which means I look at the problem and am capable of analyzing the causes. I want my people to succeed, and if have to be the person to reeducate the "educated" then I will be that person. You may not like me but you WILL learn something from me.

If you're gonna respond to me then please know what you're talking about first ok missy(I'm assuming/hoping you're a female going from your post)

 

[Dr.Chemix]

Thread is an example of the problem

Everybody talking...no one listening

So it all just becomes a battle of ideas

No one will say, "you know, you're right, we did fuck up in that aspect"

So the bullshit continues