Blake Griffin = Best Rookie Since Michael Jordan?

[Hip-Hop One]

Since Jordan? No.

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

You can not compare Blake with Hakeem or Tim Duncan the only person who did that was Shaq.

Blake = with Hakeem and Tim Rookie year

The Rockets and The Spurs already had franchise big men before they got there (Ralph Sampson, David Robinson) I get tired of people riding Tim Duncan nuts, the Spurs were a championship contender before Tim got there.

Shaq is by far the best rookie since Jordan but Blake is competing for #2 with AI, Dream, and Tim

The spurs never won shit before tim duncan

 

[bluprint]

Didn't the spurs win 27 games the year before they got Duncan?

Yeah but D Rob got hurt that season

 

[desertrain10]

Not a Lebron fan.... but didnt he kill his rookie year

carmello anthony had a better rookie year than lebron .....

Carmelo Anthony - 2004 Stats:
21.0 ppg -- 6.1 rpg -- 2.8 apg -- 1.2 spg -- 0.5 bpg -- FG% .426 -- 3P% .322 -- FT% .777 -- 3.0 tov

LeBron James - 2004 Stats:
20.9 ppg -- 5.5 rpg -- 5.9 apg -- 1.6 spg -- 0.7 bpg -- FG% .417 -- 3P% .290 -- FT% .754 -- 3.5 tov

Melo as a rookie helped the Nuggets engineer one of the biggest turnaround in NBA history his rookie season (by 22 games). Carmelo was also the first rookie since David Robinson to lead his team in scoring and make the playoffs.

Nuggets 2003 Record - season before:
17W - 65L
(Ranked 28 out of 29 in the League = Lottery)

Nuggets 2004 Record with Carmelo Anthony:
43W - 39L (+26 wins)
(Ranked 11 out of 29 in the League = Playoffs Birth 1st Round)

Cavaliers 2003 Record - season before:
17W - 65L
(Ranked 29 out of 29 in the League = Lottery)

Cavaliers 2004 Record with LeBron James:
35W - 47L (+18 wins)
(Ranked 21 out of 29 in the League = Lottery)

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edit: should have read the entire thread first. lol. but yea.... shaq, melo, a.i., duncan, had better rookie seasons than blake

 

[7 DAY THEORY CDATISR]

Hellll nawww

rose took his team to the playoffs

rose>>>>>blake

 

[bombjapan]

Shaq

Tim Duncan

David Robinson

Hakeem(even though he came in the same year as jordan)

All of them definitely had better rookie season.

All you hip-hop nigggers are stupid as fuck. You're on the Internet, learn how to you use it.

Blake Griffin:

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

2010-11 21 LAC NBA 37 37 37.3 8.3 16.1 .518 0.1 0.2 .571 5.1 8.5 .601 3.8 8.8 12.7 3.4 0.7 0.7 2.7 2.9 21.8

(Keep in mind we're not even half-way into the season and his stats are going up)

Tim Duncan:

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

1997-98 21 SAS NBA 82 82 39.1 8.6 15.7 .549 0.0 0.1 .000 3.9 5.9 .662 3.3 8.6 11.9 2.7 0.7 2.5 3.4 3.1 21.1

David Robinson:

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

1989-90 24 SAS NBA 82 81 36.6 8.4 15.9 .531 0.0 0.0 .000 7.5 10.2 .732 3.7 8.3 12.0 2.0 1.7 3.9 3.1 3.2 24.3

Hakeem Olajuwon:

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

1984-85 22 HOU NBA 82 82 35.5 8.3 15.3 .538 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.1 6.7 .613 5.4 6.5 11.9 1.4 1.2 2.7 2.9 4.2 20.6

LeBron James:

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

2003-04 19 CLE NBA 79 79 39.5 7.9 18.9 .417 0.8 2.7 .290 4.4 5.8 .754 1.3 4.2 5.5 5.9 1.6 0.7 3.5 1.9 20.9

Shaquille O'Neal

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

1992-93 20 ORL NBA 81 81 37.9 9.0 16.1 .562 0.0 0.0 .000 5.3 8.9 .592 4.2 9.6 13.9 1.9 0.7 3.5 3.8 4.0 23.4

Grant Hill:

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

1994-95 22 DET NBA 70 69 38.3 7.3 15.2 .477 0.1 0.4 .148 5.3 7.3 .732 1.8 4.6 6.4 5.0 1.8 0.9 2.9 2.9 19.9

Blake Griffin has OBVIOUS better numbers than Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, LeBron James, and Grant Hill.

David Robinson scored more than Blake, but Griffin is putting up better rebounding and assist numbers.

The only rookie that scored and rebounded more is Shaq, though Blake almost doubles his assist numbers.

Give the man some credit, he is a BEAST and is a legend-in-the-making.

And to credit Tim Duncan with the Spurs complete turnaround is about as ignorant and stupid as you can get. The sole reason the Spurs were able to draft him is because David Robinson got injured and missed 76 games in the 1996-97 season, going from 59 wins the previous 1995-96 season (with Robinson playing all 82 games) to 20 wins, giving the Spurs the #1 draft pick.

The next season Robinson came back fully healthy, playing 73 games, and the Spurs won 56 games with him and Duncan. That's actually 3 LESS games won by the Spurs than during the previous season that Robinson was healthy. And of course the following season the Spurs won it all in the lock-out shortened season, the year before the Lakers' first three-peat.

Tim Duncan had another future Hall-of-Famer playing with him, and their first season together they got eliminated in the 2nd round, the same result as two seasons before when Robinson was healthy, while winning 3 less games during the regular season.

Blake Griffin does NOT have a David Robinson or future Hall-of-Famer playing with him. He does have an All-Star from last year, Chris Kaman, on this team who's currently injured having played only 10 games this season. Not sure it's possible to even compare the talent-level on Duncan's Spurs his rookie year and the Griffin's teammates this year.

But does Blake make his teammates better? Eric Gordon averaged 16.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg, and 3.0 assists last year. This year? 23.6 ppg, 3.3rpg and 4.5 assists, making him the 10th best scorer in the league. You tell me if Griffin is making his teammates better.

Fact is, the Clippers have won 8 out of their last 11 games, after a disastrous start to the season. They have beaten the Heat and the Spurs, both teams which were at the top of their respective conferences at the time, the Thunder, Bulls, Nuggets and the Hornets, all playoff-bound teams with winning records. They came within a point of beating the Lakers if not for a literally last-second lay-up by Fisher. All of this can be directly attributed to Blake Griffin's addition to the team this year, not only in the scoring and rebounding that he brings to the table, but how his play elevates that of his teammates.

If not for their disastrous start at the beginning of the season, the Clippers might have been playoff contenders this year. Who knows, maybe they still will be, being just 6 games off from the 8th seed. And if they do make the playoffs, that would be fun to watch, whether they go up against the Spurs or the Lakers (doubtful the Mavs or the Jazz will get the #1 seed).

Bottom line? Don't count Blake Griffin out, just because all you see are his highlight dunks on Sportscenter or YouTube. This dude has got the complete game and has the drive, work ethic and tenacity to improve his game each and every year.

 

[Poster#19]

What's with all the Tim Duncan dickriding? Thus far, Blake is averaging more points, less turnovers, more rebounds, more assists in 2 minutes less a game.

 

[Poster#19]

All you hip-hop nigggers are stupid as fuck. You're on the Internet, learn how to you use it.

Blake Griffin:
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2010-11 21 LAC NBA 37 37 37.3 8.3 16.1 .518 0.1 0.2 .571 5.1 8.5 .601 3.8 8.8 12.7 3.4 0.7 0.7 2.7 2.9 21.8
(Keep in mind we're not even half-way into the season and his stats are going up)

Tim Duncan:
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1997-98 21 SAS NBA 82 82 39.1 8.6 15.7 .549 0.0 0.1 .000 3.9 5.9 .662 3.3 8.6 11.9 2.7 0.7 2.5 3.4 3.1 21.1

David Robinson:
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1989-90 24 SAS NBA 82 81 36.6 8.4 15.9 .531 0.0 0.0 .000 7.5 10.2 .732 3.7 8.3 12.0 2.0 1.7 3.9 3.1 3.2 24.3

Hakeem Olajuwon:
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1984-85 22 HOU NBA 82 82 35.5 8.3 15.3 .538 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.1 6.7 .613 5.4 6.5 11.9 1.4 1.2 2.7 2.9 4.2 20.6

LeBron James:
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2003-04 19 CLE NBA 79 79 39.5 7.9 18.9 .417 0.8 2.7 .290 4.4 5.8 .754 1.3 4.2 5.5 5.9 1.6 0.7 3.5 1.9 20.9

Shaquille O'Neal
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1992-93 20 ORL NBA 81 81 37.9 9.0 16.1 .562 0.0 0.0 .000 5.3 8.9 .592 4.2 9.6 13.9 1.9 0.7 3.5 3.8 4.0 23.4

Grant Hill:
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1994-95 22 DET NBA 70 69 38.3 7.3 15.2 .477 0.1 0.4 .148 5.3 7.3 .732 1.8 4.6 6.4 5.0 1.8 0.9 2.9 2.9 19.9

Blake Griffin has OBVIOUS better numbers than Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, LeBron James, and Grant Hill.

David Robinson scored more than Blake, but Griffin is putting up better rebounding and assist numbers.

The only rookie that scored and rebounded more is Shaq, though Blake almost doubles his assist numbers.

Give the man some credit, he is a BEAST and is a legend-in-the-making.

And to credit Tim Duncan with the Spurs complete turnaround is about as ignorant and stupid as you can get. The sole reason the Spurs were able to draft him is because David Robinson got injured and missed 76 games in the 1996-97 season, going from 59 wins the previous 1995-96 season (with Robinson playing all 82 games) to 20 wins, giving the Spurs the #1 draft pick.

The next season Robinson came back fully healthy, playing 73 games, and the Spurs won 56 games with him and Duncan. That's actually 3 LESS games won by the Spurs than during the previous season that Robinson was healthy. And of course the following season the Spurs won it all in the lock-out shortened season, the year before the Lakers' first three-peat.

Tim Duncan had another future Hall-of-Famer playing with him, and their first season together they got eliminated in the 2nd round, the same result as two seasons before when Robinson was healthy, while winning 3 less games during the regular season.

Blake Griffin does NOT have a David Robinson or future Hall-of-Famer playing with him. He does have an All-Star from last year, Chris Kaman, on this team who's currently injured having played only 10 games this season. Not sure it's possible to even compare the talent-level on Duncan's Spurs his rookie year and the Griffin's teammates this year.

But does Blake make his teammates better? Eric Gordon averaged 16.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg, and 3.0 assists last year. This year? 23.6 ppg, 3.3rpg and 4.5 assists, making him the 10th best scorer in the league. You tell me if Griffin is making his teammates better.

Fact is, the Clippers have won 8 out of their last 11 games, after a disastrous start to the season. They have beaten the Heat and the Spurs, both teams which were at the top of their respective conferences at the time, the Thunder, Bulls, Nuggets and the Hornets, all playoff-bound teams with winning records. They came within a point of beating the Lakers if not for a literally last-second lay-up by Fisher. All of this can be directly attributed to Blake Griffin's addition to the team this year, not only in the scoring and rebounding that he brings to the table, but how his play elevates that of his teammates.

If not for their disastrous start at the beginning of the season, the Clippers might have been playoff contenders this year. Who knows, maybe they still will be, being just 6 games off from the 8th seed. And if they do make the playoffs, that would be fun to watch, whether they go up against the Spurs or the Lakers (doubtful the Mavs or the Jazz will get the #1 seed).

Bottom line? Don't count Blake Griffin out, just because all you see are his highlight dunks on Sportscenter or YouTube. This dude has got the complete game and has the drive, work ethic and tenacity to improve his game each and every year.

Well damn, I was a post too late. Just a tad bit racist though.

 

[one_manshow]

Melo, Timmy, A.I and Dream rookie seasons>>>>>>>>BG

Cut it out with the Jordan rookie year comparison.

 

[T. Sanford]

Not a Lebron fan.... but didnt he kill his rookie year

Melo rookie season>>>>>Lebron rookie season

sadly they gave rookie of the year to Lebron & not just co-mvp with Melo. Thats the NBA for ya tho

 

[coolGREY]

I don't consider Blake Griffin a rookie.

 

[one_manshow]

Melo rookie season>>>>>Lebron rookie season

sadly they gave rookie of the year to Lebron & not just co-mvp with Melo. Thats the NBA for ya tho

Shhhhh don't say that this the bronseats Lebron stans got apps on their phones they are coming for you in 3..2...1

 

[Datdude87]

Melo rookie season>>>>>Lebron rookie season

sadly they gave rookie of the year to Lebron & not just co-mvp with Melo. Thats the NBA for ya tho

somebody has to go against the grain. good shyt...trust...ur not alone wit that statement.

 

[almighty breeze]

didnt Pierce and Vince have some goo rookie years too
Elton Brand did as well..