Blacks need to stop killing each other and learn to unite....its getting real out here.

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january;4238341 said:
If you think this Black and White issue is important as relating to what's happening globally then both black and white people are dumb as fuck.

If there ever is a race war what do you think will happen?????

I'll tell you.

Bigger Government Control For All.

This Race shit is fucking the whole entire American Public. The ones in power could careless about whites vs blacks. They want to control all.

Beside America has enemies and if we are distracted fighting this black vs white shit then we are ALL fucked.

The Public Needs To Wake The Fuck Up.

Wake the fuck up about what? How can we possibly even conceive ways to fix up global problems when in house our shit isn't tight?

And lets be real, white americans got enemies more so than blacks. So basically you want blacks do what they did for this country in Vietnam and then return home to being called a nigger?

Have we all awakened? You say government control for all, yet it is in place and intact. You got a smartphone-you tracked and monitored. You have a facebook profile where you post your pix, plan dates and outings, make statuses discussing your thoughts, ideas and dreams, not to mention checking in-your tracked and monitored. You don't carry cash so you have a debit card, you use wifi from a coffee shop, pull out the GPS for a new location-you are tracked and monitored.

Say fuck 9/11 and see government control in action. Type an alert word on a website and see government control in action. Listen to people discuss about the president and hear government control in action.
 
Im_Linx;4238361 said:
I really dont give a shit if other blacks are killing blacks. not my mutha fuckin problem

ya know, somehow I wouldn't be surprised if you end up in a klansmen porno enjoying every minute of it...

you always got some anti black shit to say wit yo black ass

 
The point of the matter is this.

Black people have to be organized. It's not enough to sit on an internet forum and talk about it.

We all exist outside of this place, so I'm suggesting that we either look for real grassroots organizations where we live, or those of us who want to do something and live relatively close meet up and discuss plans.

I wouldn't discuss anything here as the IC isn't the most secure place, but the two most important things forums to do is to become informed and organized.

when we do these two things then we can start building and move in a direction.

I'm picking up some material by Marcus Garvey.

One of his quotes that stuck out to me is this, "One of the greatest weapons used against Negroes is disorganization"

Everytime we have gotten something off the ground we have assumed two things 1) that we could appeal to the moral sensibility of whites and 2) that our agenda isn't disruptive of the global scheme thereby warranting interference.

If we're going to do this we gotta do it right. Check the egos and presumptuous natures at the door and approach this thing with a sense of urgency but humility and willingness to learn.

I speak for myself most of all.
 
I feel you on that @PublicEnemigo1

I believe its time for a new organization with no ties to any of the ones out now...

And Marcus Garvey is a good to read up on...
 
black men are too busy making up new dances,lusting over big booty skeezers, and arguing over which nba player makes the most money. I took a long look at the whole conglomerate of black males and shook my head and sighed to myself "good GOD were not ready". We don't have enough soldiers. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SOLDIERS. I see effeminate blacks males and nigga attempting to be "real" niggas but no soldiers, no warriors. No honor. No integrity. No heart.

True more and more brothers are waking up but it isn't enough.
 
niggas need to start building their own communities, trusting one another, investing in black-owned businesses, companies, having unity...

like c'mon you think that Al Sharpton and every mega church on each block is going to save blacks and better them,

NO.

like that nigga Intellectual Violence said.. Educating yourself is what's going to make it happen.

It ain't even about a race war, it's about getting a community of people with their own businesses, estates, leaders.. schools or whatever to make a big difference...

i mean the jews did it, the asians did it.. the whites obviously did it... niggas need to start to that shit too..
 
numbaz...80's baby;4238446 said:
^^^^^^truthfully, I dont agree. My 2 lil brothers are apart of this generation you speak of. You're right, their clothes and thought process is lame but them niggaz can shoot wit no fear, beat tha fuk outta nigga without a second thought, and piss on ya face wit no remorse. I seen this wit my own eyes. These kids listen to Lil B and wear skinny jeans but they'll murk a nigga and put them hands on a mafucka. Yall think they aint ready but I think they ready.

i bet they'll bitch up in the face of the true enemy. and I doubt they have the discipline to follow detailed orders and make logical decisions in the advent of war. Most of these young dudes are driven by emotion and only react when their false sense of manhood is being challenged. At the end of the day their worries are superficial and trivial and never really have the ambition or the heart to take a stand for anything that doesn't involve quick gratification. They'll fight and die over a pair of jordans before they even consider taking a bullet for the cause.

 
But most young dudes are just distorted mirror reflections of their adult counterparts...

We clowning young dudes but we were the foundation for these dudes to follow. That old school rule of "I'm older than you so you must obey me" is played the fuck out. That is, anyway, nothing but slave mentality. Because you're older doesn't mean you have been blessed with wisdom. But trying to impose that will proved to be a backfire.

Truth is, the older generation abandoned the younger one. They begin to be scornful and look down at them like they're bunch of idiots. And the younger generation did what the past generation at their youth did; they rebelled.

That is one of greatest errors in the community. Older generation not communicating or at least attempt to understand where the younger ones came from. Its as if the older generation just came into this world already adults or something. C'mon bruh, you were there at one point too. Your generation shoot and killed over a pair of jordans, if not Kani jeans back in the days. But now you high and mighty?

 
Dr.Chemix;4238477 said:
But most young dudes are just distorted mirror reflections of their adult counterparts...

We clowning young dudes but we were the foundation for these dudes to follow. That old school rule of "I'm older than you so you must obey me" is played the fuck out. That is, anyway, nothing but slave mentality. Because you're older doesn't mean you have been blessed with wisdom. But trying to impose that will proved to be a backfire.

Truth is, the older generation abandoned the younger one. They begin to be scornful and look down at them like they're bunch of idiots. And the younger generation did what the past generation at their youth did; they rebelled.

That is one of greatest errors in the community. Older generation not communicating or at least attempt to understand where the younger ones came from. Its as if the older generation just came into this world already adults or something. C'mon bruh, you were there at one point too. Your generation shoot and killed over a pair of jordans, if not Kani jeans back in the days. But now you high and mighty?

yo, i have to super-co-sign on that one brah...

real shit.
 
good thread... there is already a war going on like the good doc stated... a class war

bigger picture our true enemies aren't people like george zimmerman ...plutocratic capitalism in combination with bad policy making like the war on drugs and a heavy dose of fear are the weapons of mass destruction...

racism created in large part to justify slavery is just a tool to divide and conquer ....a scapegoat for problems created by the system built to exploit and oppress the immense majority of people for the benefit of a small, wealthy minority ...a system that perpetuates racial stereotypes and consequently racial inequality ...if there were ever a race war, which i doubt, we would be playing right into their hands

thats why i respect mlk jr message so much...he was a proud blk man but his main focus was on the poor and disenfranchised... he seen the system for what it was... malcom x came around to the light shortly before his death

the only real solution i see is the end of capitalism as we know it...but that's def not happening anytime soon though.... in the mean time, i say just mentor and lead by example within your own communities... seek knowledge and live by the golden rule...
 
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numbaz...80's baby;4238504 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;4238469 said:
numbaz...80's baby;4238446 said:
^^^^^^truthfully, I dont agree. My 2 lil brothers are apart of this generation you speak of. You're right, their clothes and thought process is lame but them niggaz can shoot wit no fear, beat tha fuk outta nigga without a second thought, and piss on ya face wit no remorse. I seen this wit my own eyes. These kids listen to Lil B and wear skinny jeans but they'll murk a nigga and put them hands on a mafucka. Yall think they aint ready but I think they ready.

i bet they'll bitch up in the face of the true enemy. and I doubt they have the discipline to follow detailed orders and make logical decisions in the advent of war. Most of these young dudes are driven by emotion and only react when their false sense of manhood is being challenged. At the end of the day their worries are superficial and trivial and never really have the ambition or the heart to take a stand for anything that doesn't involve quick gratification. They'll fight and die over a pair of jordans before they even consider taking a bullet for the cause.

Everything you just mentioned can also be said about the 90's generation. Every fuckin thing

Your right. I'm mainly in opposition with the fact that you said their ready for this kind of conflict. This generation isn't anymore prepared than the last one. Niggas back then were killing each other over stupid shit also. When I say back "then", I'm referring to the 80's/90's. I don't think anyone can deny that for the past 30-40 years, we have undergone and witnessed some of the worse case of social degradation.

Off topic though, I it is amazing at how different of a people we were 40-50 years ago. That wasn't that long ago especially in the grand scheme of things. Assuming and thinking optimistically that things will eventually get better, I wonder what future generations of African Americans will think of our generations.
 
black people will move forward... its just sometimes some black people wanna have the mentality as if the problem(s) can never get better.

In my opinion that the worst.
 
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desertrain10;4238542 said:
bigger picture our true enemies aren't people like george zimmerman ...plutocratic capitalism in combination with bad policy making like the war on drugs and a heavy dose of fear are the weapons of mass destruction...

racism created in large part to justify slavery is just a tool to divide and conquer ....a scapegoat for problems created by the system built to exploit and oppress the immense majority of people for the benefit of a small, wealthy minority ...a system that perpetuates racial stereotypes and consequently racial inequality ...if there were ever a race war, which i doubt, we would be playing right into their hands

thats why i respect mlk jr message so much...he was a proud blk man but his main focus was on the poor and disenfranchised... he seen the system for what it was... malcom x came around to the light shortly before his death

the only real solution i see is the end of capitalism as we know it...but that's def not happening anytime soon though.... in the mean time, i say just mentor and lead by example within your own communities... seek knowledge and live by the golden rule...

nicely put...

if my people could dissect how to rise above the tides with the same thought capacity as IC'ers on The Reason breaking down the relationship between Big Meech, Jeezy and Gucci...we would be in a much better place...
 
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;4238543 said:
numbaz...80's baby;4238504 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;4238469 said:
numbaz...80's baby;4238446 said:
^^^^^^truthfully, I dont agree. My 2 lil brothers are apart of this generation you speak of. You're right, their clothes and thought process is lame but them niggaz can shoot wit no fear, beat tha fuk outta nigga without a second thought, and piss on ya face wit no remorse. I seen this wit my own eyes. These kids listen to Lil B and wear skinny jeans but they'll murk a nigga and put them hands on a mafucka. Yall think they aint ready but I think they ready.

i bet they'll bitch up in the face of the true enemy. and I doubt they have the discipline to follow detailed orders and make logical decisions in the advent of war. Most of these young dudes are driven by emotion and only react when their false sense of manhood is being challenged. At the end of the day their worries are superficial and trivial and never really have the ambition or the heart to take a stand for anything that doesn't involve quick gratification. They'll fight and die over a pair of jordans before they even consider taking a bullet for the cause.

Everything you just mentioned can also be said about the 90's generation. Every fuckin thing

Your right. I'm mainly in opposition with the fact that you said their ready for this kind of conflict. This generation isn't anymore prepared than the last one. Niggas back then were killing each other over stupid shit also. When I say back "then", I'm referring to the 80's/90's. I don't think anyone can deny that for the past 30-40 years, we have undergone and witnessed some of the worse case of social degradation.

Off topic though, I it is amazing at how different of a people we were 40-50 years ago. That wasn't that long ago especially in the grand scheme of things. Assuming and thinking optimistically that things will eventually get better, I wonder what future generations of African Americans will think of our generations.

You don't think this time is a 'ripe' time? It seems so. So far this year feels like a build up to a possibility. The possibility of something greater, worse, or more of the same. Its up to us to steer that boat...
 

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