skpjr78;8506506 said:
Im not trying to give you a hard time @obnoxiouslyfresh I have no beef with you at all. I just don't understand what you expected at Mizzou.
Mizzou isnt that much from different from UGA, Alabama, Ole Miss, or any other white institution. It might be different for black women but unless you can dribble a basketball, make a tackle or jump some hurdles they dont want the brothers there. The total black population at Mizzou is 8% but the football team is 70% black.
Tenn St was right down the street from Vanderbilt Univ. Vandy is the rich, upper class old money Harvard of the south cac school. We went over there for parties sometimes. I met a few sisters that were just students but every and i do mean EVERY black male student I met at Vandy played some kind of sport. I never met a black man at Vandy who was there solely to learn. I can only imagine the bullshit the brothers had to put up with over there.
Im not gonna front and pretend like everything at TSU was perfect but I never even considered 90% of the problems yall had to deal with at Mizzou let alone at rich cracka ass Vandy.
I know how cacs feel about me and Im ok with that b/c I feel the same way about them. Im not interested in trying to make them change their mind or pretend reality isnt what it is. I had no interest in spending my college years around ppl who didnt want me there. Its like that old saying if I had to intergrate heaven I wouldnt go. I felt the same way about white institutions. I just dont understand why our best and brightest who should know better are so willing to expose themselves to abuse from people who have spent the last 500 years showing how much they hate you. I really dont understand that OB. Please explain.
@skpjr78
Part of the problem for me is that there is a lot of misunderstanding and ill-advised opinion about why a black student would select any particular school. As I stated yesterday to someone in the Mizzou thread, there are a plethora of reasons why black students end up at the schools they choose, from family circumstances, other commitments, to most notably, what is the most economically feasible for them. We should be encouraging those students, regardless of what that choice is. I did not PAY FOR SCHOOL. I socked it to them niggas for $112,000 worth of education that I did not fund, so it would behoove others to consider what that means and why it's important. I've been in collegiate minority outreach for several years. My stance is always that we need more black youth to be able to profess that "I am a college graduate" and that's where our value and focus should be set...on creating opportunities and access to higher education and helping our black youth chose an institution in which they can afford and finish. PERIOD! For a lot of us, an HBCU is not always feasible, so it hurts to hear other black people insinuate that mistreatment is deserved because I did not go to Howard.
When it comes to the bold, I think you've misunderstood. Nobody is shocked or in awe as if they did not expect to encounter racism at Mizzou. The protests were aimed at the administration. Niggas aint out here trying to change the hearts and minds of white folks. They had a grievance to air and within a week the President resigned, Chancellor resigned and REPLACED with a black face that I know personally and he is real as they come, teachers resigned, administrators fired. These students out here playing chess, not checkers and they getting shit done. Aint nobody out here trying to make white people like them. We just have a different way of seeing things. Yours is that you aint going where you're not wanted, which I respect. Mine is that I will go where the fuck I want and if faculty and staff don't get their shit together, we gonna fuck some shit up. This is how my time was spent at Mizzou....
Do you see any white people in these photos? I dont know where the impression comes from that niggas go to school trying to mix and mingle, make white people be our friends and love us. I surely aint. Nine times out of ten, for black students at white institutions, it is a school within a school. Some of us at HBCU's (not saying you) have a chip on their shoulder because they feel that there are blacks at white schools who feel they are receiving a higher quality education. I do not subscribe to that way of thinking. After integration, we measured 'success' in degrees of non-blackness so we devalue what is exclusively black. I dont agree with that. HBCU's are essential. They provide an environment for not only black students to flourish, but have been the top producers of talented blacks in a variety of professions. What I advise those that I mentor is that if a school (doesn’t matter which one) has a legacy of producing movers and shakers in the world of business, politics and academia, by all means. I'm for it. There are obviously differences. Obviously, I think that the sense of isolation at such a large white school has made me cling on to an understanding of self that was mainly shared in our student organization culture. I think that the connection to self for students of HBCUs is less of a reach and creates a different mirror to see oneself. Both environments are enriching but produce different types of students, but there's room for everybody at this table.
