Black vote decline in Early voting

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fortyacres;9473283 said:
D. Morgan;9473248 said:
fortyacres;9473237 said:
they should just do like Australia and institute compulsory voting (with a penalty) and also make it a national holiday

Once you posted this below about Popeyes I knew you weren't to be listened to regarding anything

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D. Morgan;9473288 said:
fortyacres;9473283 said:
D. Morgan;9473248 said:
fortyacres;9473237 said:
they should just do like Australia and institute compulsory voting (with a penalty) and also make it a national holiday

Once you posted this below about Popeyes I knew you weren't to be listened to regarding anything

fortyacres Posts: 634 Regulator

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fried shrimp the only thing popeyes does well.

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but you just quoted me , so technically you listened.

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you are quoting me , meaning you did , dumbass.
 
fortyacres;9473292 said:
D. Morgan;9473288 said:
fortyacres;9473283 said:
D. Morgan;9473248 said:
fortyacres;9473237 said:
they should just do like Australia and institute compulsory voting (with a penalty) and also make it a national holiday

Once you posted this below about Popeyes I knew you weren't to be listened to regarding anything

fortyacres Posts: 634 Regulator

November 2

fried shrimp the only thing popeyes does well.

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but you just quoted me , so technically you listened.

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you are quoting me , meaning you did , dumbass.

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Mr.LV;9473220 said:
If Hillary loses, watch the media blame it on black people ,especially black voters in Pennsylvania(Philadelphia) and Ohio ( Cleveland and Cincinatti)

Fuck the media. They should had been calling out the Dems for not fulfilling their promises the last 30 years. We could vote 90% for Hillary and still get the blame while most whites vote Trump.
 
1st -It ain't fair and it's really quite stupid to compare blacks voting turnout this time with Barack's when trying to make the comparison seem relevant. People vote towards those they can identify with the most. Barack was the only black at the top of Democratic ticket in the history of a First World country EVER. There will never be a turnout like that by blacks in percentages again, unless it's another black candidate at the top of the ticket.

2nd- The comparison that would show better metrics would be to compare BLACKS turnout for Hillary versus Blacks turnout for John Kerry. If more blacks showed up for Clinton then it shows that more blacks by percentages are turning up.
 
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The bottom line is this.

A hundred years ago most blacks who could vote voted Republican. If you go back further, almost all blacks considered themselves Republicans. It was, after all, the Republican Party that outlawed slavery and tried to help blacks during Reconstruction.

Starting in the 30s, however, things began to change, and by the end of the 60s most blacks were voting for the Democrats. Blacks saw that the party they historically had been loyal to wasn't doing as much for them as the other party, and they rightly jumped ship.

What I don't understand about these people who say that blacks are "on the Democratic plantation" is why don't they think that the same thing would happen again if blacks came to the conclusion that the Democrats did not have their interests at heart more so than Republicans, or some other party?

Blacks vote Democrat in such overwhelming numbers because they perceive -- rightly, in my view -- that Democrats clearly more serve their interests than Republicans. That this serving of their interests is far from perfect doesn't negate the fact that they do so much more than Republicans.

If things were different, black support for the two parties would be more evenly-balanced.

But things are not different.

So to complain about blacks voting for one party over another when that party is perceived as more attuned to their interests is like someone complaining that a man is friends with person A but not friends with person B when person A has been there for him and has tried to help while person B has shown that he doesn't give a fuck about him.

Sitting out the vote would also be senseless, for if blacks aren't voting, why would either party be solicitous of the black vote?

 
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/nc-gop-brags-about-depressed-black-turnout

NC GOP Brags About Low Black Turnout–After Lobbying To Limit Early Voting

After lobbying local elections officials to limit the early voting opportunities that are popular among African Americans, North Carolina's Republican Party bragged Sunday about this year's decrease in black early voting turnout.

A state GOP press release on the state's early voting numbers highlighted that African American early voting turnout was down by 8.5 percent from 2012.

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Back in August, the News and Observer reported on an email sent by North Carolina GOP executive director Dallas Woodhouse to local elections officials urging them to limit early voting opportunities, including Sundays, which are used disproportionately by African Americans, and particularly those participating in black churches' "soul to poll" voter drives.

“Our Republican Board members should feel empowered to make legal changes to early voting plans, that are supported by Republicans,” Woodhouse wrote. “Republicans can and should make party line changes to early voting.”

Since then, more emails from GOP operatives making similar arguments to elections officials emerged. The county elections boards -- which are made up two-to-one of GOP appointees -- were debating their early voting plans for the extra week of voting effectively restored by an appeals court decision over the summer. More than a few of those officials took the state party's advice and proposed plans that would have severely limited early voting opportunities, particularly for black and student voters. Civil rights groups challenged many of those plans, and the state elections board ameliorated some, but not all, of the cutbacks to early voting.

While other Southern states have seen a uptick in black early turnout this cycle, North Carolina's is down, with University of Florida political scientist Michael McDonald, noting that "it seems like something went awry in North Carolina.”
https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/795378059570544645

In the 2012 election, North Carolina was covered by what's known as "pre-clearance," referring to a provision in the Voting Rights Act requiring that certain states get federal approval for changes to their elections laws. The Supreme Court gutted that provision in its 2013 Shelby County v. Holder decision, and North Carolina's GOP legislature rushed to pass a voting bill that included cutbacks to the state's early voting. That and four other restrictive provisions in the law were struck down by an appeals court that said they were passed with the intent to discriminate against minorities.

In knocking down the provision, the appeals decision also had the effect of invalidating a Democratic amendment requiring that there be the same total number of early voting hours as in the equivalent last election. That gave election officials the loophole to still drastically curb early voting.

As the appeals court decision noted, North Carolina itself, in its defense of the law, said it sought to cut Sunday voting because it was offered in counties that were disproportionately black and thus, disproportionately Democratic.

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"We recognize that elections have consequences, but winning an election does not empower anyone in any party to engage in purposeful racial discrimination," the appeals court decision said.
 
Posted this in another thread but...

leftcoastkev;9481009 said:
stringer bell;9480796 said:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/nc-gop-brags-about-depressed-black-turnout

NC GOP Brags About Low Black Turnout–After Lobbying To Limit Early Voting

After lobbying local elections officials to limit the early voting opportunities that are popular among African Americans, North Carolina's Republican Party bragged Sunday about this year's decrease in black early voting turnout.

A state GOP press release on the state's early voting numbers highlighted that African American early voting turnout was down by 8.5 percent from 2012.

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Back in August, the News and Observer reported on an email sent by North Carolina GOP executive director Dallas Woodhouse to local elections officials urging them to limit early voting opportunities, including Sundays, which are used disproportionately by African Americans, and particularly those participating in black churches' "soul to poll" voter drives.

“Our Republican Board members should feel empowered to make legal changes to early voting plans, that are supported by Republicans,” Woodhouse wrote. “Republicans can and should make party line changes to early voting.”

Since then, more emails from GOP operatives making similar arguments to elections officials emerged. The county elections boards -- which are made up two-to-one of GOP appointees -- were debating their early voting plans for the extra week of voting effectively restored by an appeals court decision over the summer. More than a few of those officials took the state party's advice and proposed plans that would have severely limited early voting opportunities, particularly for black and student voters. Civil rights groups challenged many of those plans, and the state elections board ameliorated some, but not all, of the cutbacks to early voting.

While other Southern states have seen a uptick in black early turnout this cycle, North Carolina's is down, with University of Florida political scientist Michael McDonald, noting that "it seems like something went awry in North Carolina.”
https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/795378059570544645

In the 2012 election, North Carolina was covered by what's known as "pre-clearance," referring to a provision in the Voting Rights Act requiring that certain states get federal approval for changes to their elections laws. The Supreme Court gutted that provision in its 2013 Shelby County v. Holder decision, and North Carolina's GOP legislature rushed to pass a voting bill that included cutbacks to the state's early voting. That and four other restrictive provisions in the law were struck down by an appeals court that said they were passed with the intent to discriminate against minorities.

In knocking down the provision, the appeals decision also had the effect of invalidating a Democratic amendment requiring that there be the same total number of early voting hours as in the equivalent last election. That gave election officials the loophole to still drastically curb early voting.

As the appeals court decision noted, North Carolina itself, in its defense of the law, said it sought to cut Sunday voting because it was offered in counties that were disproportionately black and thus, disproportionately Democratic.

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"We recognize that elections have consequences, but winning an election does not empower anyone in any party to engage in purposeful racial discrimination," the appeals court decision said.

Maybe less black ppl care to vote this election.

I know I don't.

There's no longer a black face on the ticket. A better comparison would be the 2004 election (Bush vs Kerry), not the 2008 or 2012 ones.

Also, maybe more white ppl cared less during the 2012 election (Obama vs Romney). Again a better comparison would be 2004.

 
I like how Hillary supporters are blaming us non voters like we placed the fucker in front of the podium

I feel good today not because trump won not because Hillary lost but because my hands are clean for the next four years I just pray everyone else accept they decision.
 
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Black_Samson;9485122 said:
The early surge yesterday was likely due to unemployment.

The taper off point was from those too busy to vote. (ie: too many jobs, too many kids)

And then the others...

The key is reaching those 3 archtypes.

Unemployment is low:

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D. Morgan;9471253 said:
Funny how easily Trump can just fuck up the whole economy, healthcare, education system(which is shit as is anyway. No where is it in the constitution that any american has the right to a proper education) but Obama couldn't do anything specific for black people because of congress. Will Trump not have a congress to answer to?

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Niggas forgot the Republicans would most likely win the house and Senate loool
 

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