BLACK HISTORY QUESTION???

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DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing
 
blackrain;6798095 said:
DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing

of course there are difference because we live in different countries. Dudu is arguing that there is no connection between africans and african americans
 
blackrain;6798095 said:
DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing

of course there are difference because we live in different countries. Dudu is arguing that there is no connection between africans and african americans
 
yo i swear on everything....if it was normal for black people in america to have african relatives in their family gatherings...my entire perspective would change.....

if i had some great uncles or great aunts who used to visit, or my people would go over to visit from time to time...then i'd be like....yea we're all one in the same....

but the shit just don't go like that.....yea barack obama, whose father is directly from africa has that connect......or my homeboy who's expecting his first child soon, has that connect...shit we went to his baby shower....half the people there were in straight african attire, the other half were in mexican......funny shit, cuz he having a baby with a mexican chick....

but the the whole thing is... both them have legitimate africans and mexicans in their family....people from their homeland....i can understand him considering himself an african american...or when his son is born being an african american.....he gonna have several africans at every family gathering.....

there's just a difference man....but i'm being repetitive so imma try to just leave this alone... we already got it fixed in our minds what we gonna beleive
 
blackrain;6798042 said:
Kwan Dai;6797928 said:
blackrain;6797904 said:
rip.dilla;6797657 said:
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Your current President visiting his hometown in the 80s

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One of the founding fathers of the Black Panther Party and fighter of racial oppression in America who relocated to Africa ..

I've read both their biographies ..

This actually helps to prove his point that it's 1. not wide spread and 2. not done often by folks who don't have direct (as in 1 or 2 generations removed) links to specific countries, tribes etc. in Africa

I disagree. This was just an example. Going back to Africa or identifying doesn't mean a person has to literally pack their bags and move. One can go back to Africa by simply adopting various forms of African culture and injecting the culture into their lives here in America.

There have been many African oriented organizations here America urging us to reconnect or stay connected. This isn't a new concept. Marcus Garvey being one of the most recognized people to spread this idea.

Thing is though in this instance an example doesn't really dispute what's been said from Du's pov. I also agree that Black History, especially as it's taught in America, shouldn't begin with slavery but I also don't think that the accomplishments and strides made by Black Americans should be overlooked either. It seems like there's such a want to constantly identify with the struggle that people would much rather hear and be constantly told about the negative state of blacks in America instead of just taking a moment to stop and say there's been some serious shit done by black folks in this country. As if appreciating that somehow means you're not aware of the struggles that still need to be overcome.

Also, even though Marcus Garvey was at the forefront of a movement to get black Americans back to Africa let's not pretend as if all Black Americans welcome the different African cultures with open arms. Many speak of Africa like it's one large country instead of a continent with thousands of different languages/dialects and different cultures among the different countries and tribes there. Like it's been quoted in here one of the most well known movie lines in black cinema history for a whole generation is "I ain't from Africa I'm from Crenshaw Mafia"..

I believe I have said all that you have said. Du's pov is his choice. And I respect that. I asked the brother to not falsify history by saying things such as "the Black Mans history began with slavery". This is simply inaccurate. I even agreed with Du that African culture and Black American culture are different. However, they are also similar. To what degree or percentage? I don't really care to measure. However, others can if they like. I choose to simplify these types of happenings. I don't see the benefit in excluding either History. Although, I see the missteps that could occur when excluding one for another or in the worse case both.

I just don't see how a Black person in America can argue for Black American History while dismissing African History past and present. I mean what is the difference between Mandela and Martin? What is the difference between Fred Hampton or Steven Biko? Fela Kuti or Harry Belefonte? In regards to the struggle, fight and progression for people of color and African descent.

I believe it's all relative. I think the differences among Africans is well understand to those to who study. Just as there are differences among Black Americans from the south and north. But as a northerner to deny my southern roots because, I grew up eating a non-pork diet and preferring Malcolm to Martin would be asinine.

I don't think as intelligent Black Men we should be quoting ignorance from movies. Many of which, don't have our best interest in mind to begin with.

 
zombie;6796857 said:
700;6796639 said:
zombie;6792769 said:
700;6792585 said:
zombie;6792567 said:
it's called black history month not african american history month so it is correct to study the history of all black peoples not just african americans.

I ain't tryin to study shit bout no black ass Haitian

fuck that

"Strickly 4 my Niggaz"

Nigger don't you ever quote me again you are to stupid to talk too

I'm just bringing some common sense to the conversation

I wanna learn about niggas who.turned they chains to gold and helped some niggas out

not the bitch ass niggas in Africa who ain't put up a fight and let us get took, or a island mothafucka

Nigger don't quote me you are one of the most igorant fools on here and you think it's funny but it's not. I have no respect for you now fuck off.

why I gotta be ignorant

cause I cuss a lot to get my point across and dumb my posts down so anybody can understand

you a bitch, already intimidated of a nigga and these just words

 


Du_Du;6798147 said:
yo i swear on everything....if it was normal for black people in america to have african relatives in their family gatherings...my entire perspective would change.....

if i had some great uncles or great aunts who used to visit, or my people would go over to visit from time to time...then i'd be like....yea we're all one in the same....

but the shit just don't go like that.....yea barack obama, whose father is directly from africa has that connect......or my homeboy who's expecting his first child soon, has that connect...shit we went to his baby shower....half the people there were in straight african attire, the other half were in mexican......funny shit, cuz he having a baby with a mexican chick....

but the the whole thing is... both them have legitimate africans and mexicans in their family....people from their homeland....i can understand him considering himself an african american...or when his son is born being an african american.....he gonna have several africans at every family gathering.....

there's just a difference man....but i'm being repetitive so imma try to just leave this alone... we already got it fixed in our minds what we gonna beleive

You are comparing apples to space ships here. You don't need an immediate relative active in your daily to identify with African Culture. This is just plain silly. The fact is you are of African descent whether it's via 30th generation or 2nd generation.

Do you have to identify because of this? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! But your argument has to be the weakest argument I have ever come across for not engaging oneself in African culture. I promise I say this respectfully.

And just for shits and giggles. The African brother needs to school his Mexican wife on her African ancestry. "the Black grandma in the closet" goes into depth on the topic. As well as their being one of if not the largest African Slave trade ports in Mexico.

We know there is a difference but you are failing to research or do the knowledge on the similarities.
 
kai, you're cool peoples... we've talked about this issue a lot....even in pm's before.....

but even with all that.....i still think that as a whole we're two different people...

i mean it's great that we can get along in instances, and it's beautiful that you and your husband were able to get past a lot of that....cuz i remember you saying before your family wasn't initially receptive because he wasn't somali

but i still feel that black americans are unique people of their own characteristics, culture, and history.

 
blackrain;6798095 said:
DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing

While true. The ONLY reason we don't identify with African Culture and history is because, it's not taught in School. Hell Black American Culture and history isn't taught in school beyond MLK.

With that said. If you have parents that have a world view from a black perspective then the children will have a world view that is the same. And in other cases Blacks get exposed to a different frame of reference when they go to college and begin to come in contact with perspective on Black History throughout the world.

 


Kwan Dai;6798320 said:
blackrain;6798095 said:
DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing

While true. The ONLY reason we don't identify with African Culture and history is because, it's not taught in School. Hell Black American Culture and history isn't taught in school beyond MLK.

With that said. If you have parents that have a world view from a black perspective then the children will have a world view that is the same. And in other cases Blacks get exposed to a different frame of reference when they go to college and begin to come in contact with perspective on Black History throughout the world.

i strongly disagree.....

we learned a shit load about black american culture and african culture in school....well atleast i did......

and this was all levels of schooling......and again, because of my first name, i've been exposed to a lot more just by association....

to say school is the only reason is highly inaccurate......

my opinion is a mixture of my personal experinces and my exposure to the arts...
 
kai;6798274 said:
ThirdEyeFive;6794039 said:
nah... g'head and name an ethnic group that only considers its history in America as their heritage... we'll wait...

oh you mean like how japanese americans separate their history after internment from that of people in japan?

/:)

Du_Du;6796991 said:
lol, bruh,

we're not the same....you tryna force yourself on a people who don't even fuck with you....

i don't get that...

i mean it's one thing to trace your roots and learn the culture of a people...in all purposes, that's great..commendable...i love learning about different cultures and practices...but that's exactly what it is to me.. a DIFFERENT culture....

they got their shit...we got ours.....

we are the same, or at least MUCH more similar than we are different. don't you see that this shit is propaganda to turn each group against the other? africa is a huge continent, with all types of people, but why is it when they come here, people from 57 some odd countries can stick together but then look at african-americans as separate or different from them?

it's because of the the image of african-americans that is portrayed to the world, and on y'all end, you are being fed your own distorted image of what africans are like. so both parties are approaching each other with misleading first impressions.

you talk about things like jazz and literature and art that african-americans contributed to this country, but you don't think what made the art so great was the influences that were left behind from african culture?

don't let your negative experiences with a few misguided people lead you into thinking that we are really different or that there is real animosity there, because i could've easily believed that myself going off of how some african-americans have treated me. but people's ignorances are not telling of any real truths

my husband was born and raised in america and i only came here when i was ten, even though he may not have a distinctly different culture or language, i honestly feel like he, in essence, is just as african as i am while i feel i am as much a black person in america like he is.

sorry for the long post, this issue is near and dear to my heart. i just know if we all did more to look past our differences to find our common ground we'd all be better off

Excellent addition to the discussion. Many Africans that come to America quickly come to the understanding that they are Black. And although, I have never been to Africa many of my immediate family has, as well as friends and many while siting differences all have felt welcomed as Africans upon their visits.

 
Kwan Dai;6798320 said:
blackrain;6798095 said:
DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing

While true. The ONLY reason we don't identify with African Culture and history is because, it's not taught in School. Hell Black American Culture and history isn't taught in school beyond MLK.

With that said. If you have parents that have a world view from a black perspective then the children will have a world view that is the same. And in other cases Blacks get exposed to a different frame of reference when they go to college and begin to come in contact with perspective on Black History throughout the world.

And there you have it.
 
Tapes Show Louis Armstrong's Anger

Aug. 21

Jazz great Louis Armstrong is mostly remembered as the happy, smiling entertainer he played in movies like High Society and Hello, Dolly. But his audio diary shows he was privately seething at the racism he and other black Americans faced every day.

In nightly sessions from the late 1940s until his death in 1971, Armstrong dictated his private thoughts, as well as conversations with friends, into a reel-to-reel tape recorder he carried in a steamer trunk. He recorded more than 650 reels, decorating the tape boxes with his own collages.

The tapes, which he entrusted to the archives at New York's Queens College, present the Armstrong that his closest friends and musician friends knew, says Chicago Tribune jazz critic Howard Reich, who recently listened to hours of the recordings.

"They will see that he's not this one-dimensional caricature, that he's not the smiling get-happy entertainer, that he's also a real human being. He's as torn about race as the rest of the country is…. There's so much more than the kind of minstrel-show facade that Armstrong self-consciously projected."

Anger at Being Mistreated Because of His Race

In language often laced with street talk and colorful profanity, Armstrong recalls his anger at being mistreated because of his race.

In one incident during the filming of Glory Alley, he remembers blowing up at a white stagehand for calling him "Satchmo" instead of the more appropriate Mr. Armstrong, which is how the stagehand addressed the white actors.

Referring to him as an "ofay" (a derogatory term for a white person), Armstrong recalls telling him, "You tell M-G-M to shove that picture up their ass…. Say, I ain't no movie star, so why you handing me that s--t? Because I'm colored?"

On a visit to Hawaii, he remembers a white sailor who told him to his face, "I don't like Negroes, but you're one sombitch I'm crazy about."

Armstong's conclusion: "I've said it for years. I've said, you take the majority of white people, two-thirds of them don't like n-----s, but they always got one n----r they're just crazy about, god---n it. Every white man in the world has one n----r at least that they just love his dirty drawers. Ain't that a bitch?"

Armstrong's reactions are at odds with the persona he played on stage and in film — which was often criticized by younger jazz musicians. "The tapes show that the presentation that Armstrong gave onstage was more than just instinctive. It was very calculated. It was a way, or at least it was Armstrong's way, of disarming an audience."

'Vipers' Who Smoked 'Gage'

On the tapes, Armstrong speaks of marijuana and the healthful effects of laxatives — two daily habits he was openly enthusiastic about during his lifetime.

On one tape, recalling his life in the 1930s, he draws a distinction between "vipers" like him who smoked marijuana, and "dope fiends" who took harder drugs. Among other things, he says, the dope addicts had problems with personal hygiene. "They stayed funky, filthy, dirty, grimy, all the time. Show a dope fiend a bucket of water, and they'll run like hell to keep it from touching them. But a viper would gladly welcome a good bath, clean underwear, top clothes, stay fresh and on the ball. Never a discussion no time about dope."

Armstrong says marijuana — which he called "gage" — was preferable to alcohol, because it promoted "better thoughts" and brought "warmth" from other people.

Saying that marijuana could "quite naturally make you eat like a dog," he moves on to the subject of nutritional health and laxatives, which he believed promote good health.

He recalls how when he was growing up in New Orleans his sister Beatrice (known as Mama Lucy) used to boil up pepper grass and dandelion into a "physic" so powerful that "we'd make sprints getting to the toilet." Armstrong used laxatives daily for the rest of his life, famously favoring the Swiss Kriss brand.
 
Kwan Dai;6798320 said:
blackrain;6798095 said:
DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing

While true. The ONLY reason we don't identify with African Culture and history is because, it's not taught in School. Hell Black American Culture and history isn't taught in school beyond MLK.

With that said. If you have parents that have a world view from a black perspective then the children will have a world view that is the same. And in other cases Blacks get exposed to a different frame of reference when they go to college and begin to come in contact with perspective on Black History throughout the world.

Cosign..... I'm currently in school now and they barely talk about African culture and our african roots so I can see why some niggas don't understand
 
Du_Du;6798343 said:
Kwan Dai;6798320 said:
blackrain;6798095 said:
DNB1;6798054 said:
Kwan Dai;6798031 said:
DNB1;6798012 said:
I try not to blame some of you black Americans for still thinking that America is your country.

I mean, you guys are brainwashed into pledging your allegiance to the Stars and Stripes from a young age in school.

Like to be called African American but don't want to acknowledge the "African" part ass niggas..

Your ancestors struggle didn't begin when the first banana boat landed.

I've always got the impression that black people outside of America tend to have this view that black Americans think they are better than other blacks. Some of the logic in this thread is the reason why.

I don't think Blacks in America think they are better. I think many just believe there aren't similarities in the culture. Which, I believe is, simply because of our education system.

That's another thing...why do black Americans think they are so culturally different to black people elsewhere?

I've never understood that. I'd even go so far to say that the only difference would be shit black America has picked up from white America.

Because like it or not most people identify culturally with the country they grew up in. Seeing as how Black Americans grew up in America, they tend to have an American mindset on things. There's certain cultural things you will only get in America from black folks just like there's certain things you only get from black folks in the caribbean/latin america etc. It's not a bad thing to say there's a difference in black folks across the globe in some cases. It just means people in different parts of the world have different ways of doing thing

While true. The ONLY reason we don't identify with African Culture and history is because, it's not taught in School. Hell Black American Culture and history isn't taught in school beyond MLK.

With that said. If you have parents that have a world view from a black perspective then the children will have a world view that is the same. And in other cases Blacks get exposed to a different frame of reference when they go to college and begin to come in contact with perspective on Black History throughout the world.

i strongly disagree.....

we learned a shit load about black american culture and african culture in school....well atleast i did......

and this was all levels of schooling......and again, because of my first name, i've been exposed to a lot more just by association....

to say school is the only reason is highly inaccurate......

my opinion is a mixture of my personal experinces and my exposure to the arts...

Enlighten us all on the PUBLIC SCHOOL curriculum in the USA that has African History or Black History as a mandatory subject k-12.

Perhaps it is but unless you have another logical reason then it is what is. For AMERICANS, WHITE AND BLACK to know more about Slave Holders then those who fought against Slave Holders is an issue. For Blacks in America to know more about Greeks and Romans then Africans is an issue.

I have offered my opinion on several posts. However, more of my opinions are based on Historical research and gatherings.

 
Du_Du;6798449 said:
Tapes Show Louis Armstrong's Anger

Aug. 21

Jazz great Louis Armstrong is mostly remembered as the happy, smiling entertainer he played in movies like High Society and Hello, Dolly. But his audio diary shows he was privately seething at the racism he and other black Americans faced every day.

In nightly sessions from the late 1940s until his death in 1971, Armstrong dictated his private thoughts, as well as conversations with friends, into a reel-to-reel tape recorder he carried in a steamer trunk. He recorded more than 650 reels, decorating the tape boxes with his own collages.

The tapes, which he entrusted to the archives at New York's Queens College, present the Armstrong that his closest friends and musician friends knew, says Chicago Tribune jazz critic Howard Reich, who recently listened to hours of the recordings.

"They will see that he's not this one-dimensional caricature, that he's not the smiling get-happy entertainer, that he's also a real human being. He's as torn about race as the rest of the country is…. There's so much more than the kind of minstrel-show facade that Armstrong self-consciously projected."

Anger at Being Mistreated Because of His Race

In language often laced with street talk and colorful profanity, Armstrong recalls his anger at being mistreated because of his race.

In one incident during the filming of Glory Alley, he remembers blowing up at a white stagehand for calling him "Satchmo" instead of the more appropriate Mr. Armstrong, which is how the stagehand addressed the white actors.

Referring to him as an "ofay" (a derogatory term for a white person), Armstrong recalls telling him, "You tell M-G-M to shove that picture up their ass…. Say, I ain't no movie star, so why you handing me that s--t? Because I'm colored?"

On a visit to Hawaii, he remembers a white sailor who told him to his face, "I don't like Negroes, but you're one sombitch I'm crazy about."

Armstong's conclusion: "I've said it for years. I've said, you take the majority of white people, two-thirds of them don't like n-----s, but they always got one n----r they're just crazy about, god---n it. Every white man in the world has one n----r at least that they just love his dirty drawers. Ain't that a bitch?"

Armstrong's reactions are at odds with the persona he played on stage and in film — which was often criticized by younger jazz musicians. "The tapes show that the presentation that Armstrong gave onstage was more than just instinctive. It was very calculated. It was a way, or at least it was Armstrong's way, of disarming an audience."

'Vipers' Who Smoked 'Gage'

On the tapes, Armstrong speaks of marijuana and the healthful effects of laxatives — two daily habits he was openly enthusiastic about during his lifetime.

On one tape, recalling his life in the 1930s, he draws a distinction between "vipers" like him who smoked marijuana, and "dope fiends" who took harder drugs. Among other things, he says, the dope addicts had problems with personal hygiene. "They stayed funky, filthy, dirty, grimy, all the time. Show a dope fiend a bucket of water, and they'll run like hell to keep it from touching them. But a viper would gladly welcome a good bath, clean underwear, top clothes, stay fresh and on the ball. Never a discussion no time about dope."

Armstrong says marijuana — which he called "gage" — was preferable to alcohol, because it promoted "better thoughts" and brought "warmth" from other people.

Saying that marijuana could "quite naturally make you eat like a dog," he moves on to the subject of nutritional health and laxatives, which he believed promote good health.

He recalls how when he was growing up in New Orleans his sister Beatrice (known as Mama Lucy) used to boil up pepper grass and dandelion into a "physic" so powerful that "we'd make sprints getting to the toilet." Armstrong used laxatives daily for the rest of his life, famously favoring the Swiss Kriss brand.

So Armstrong was a Rasta?

 

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