I've been told that I'm white for various reasons but white folks would be a bit confused by those accusations. I just don't fit a mold, but I've never been called white for that. I try not to mention my lack of concern for their choice in life unless someone goes too hard on me with their religion. I think most people know because of the way i dismiss their rants with indifference..
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I only heard it from zombie that you are acting white, but there are 12% of blacks who are reported atheist from the last census and more growing. Anyway, I'm more agnostic spirtual. The way I think of the universe and outside what we deem to be magical and supernatural really isn't, we just don't know the functions and haven't come across the capabilities yet. We thought lightening, fire, weather, and other forms of natural events were in fact supernatural, but as science progressed we learned how they operate and how they work. Hell we even know what in fact creates mass and gives a broader understanding of gravity and understand the universe and planets with two suns and such. In a thousand years they will know so much how our world and universe operates and we'll be probably on other planets living and in 10,000 years probably being able to create suns and planets. We'll might be able to teleport to other planets in seconds and go to work in many galaxies while living on a different planet, culture will become much more complicated and complex or maybe simpler but more harmonious with nature of other worlds.
Ajackson17
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The craziest thing is that you can pretend you believe all day and still not give a fuck about it lol. I really don't give a fuck about religion and none of that shit, I do think the universe is conscious and all, but I can't give a fuck.
ohhhla;6169208 said:
I know you are still human that is why i said i would not disown you. atheist really cannot be trusted your moral systems are too subjective. Religion bonds a family in community without it you've made yourself kind of an outsider. THINK ABOUT it when grandma dies will my atheist family member come to the church and pray with the rest of us? no and even if he comes we all know he won't believe anything that's said that day. so he's not really going to share that spiritual moment with us.
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He can still weep for her passing and comfort the family. I don't know what praying has to do with anything.
EmperorRises;6170018 said:
It has everything to do with it, when people who believe the same thing pray together there is a unity that exist there it is a special experience especially at very emotional times. I cannot have that feeling with someone i know is an atheist.
atheist and theist don't experience death in the same way for an atheist death is the end.
zombie;6169430 said:
Morality is subjective, period. You must have forgotten about this:
From what I can tell, religious people cannot be trusted. I would rather deal with someone who I can at least make judgements based on what can be inferred from observation of words and actions than someone who believes they should do whatever a deity tells them to do.
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zombie;6169430 said:
Religion only strengthens the bond between like-minded people. It's "preaching to the choir", pun intended. In the grand scheme of things, religion separates mankind and only adds to the list of ways someone can discriminate against their fellow man.
An atheist doesn't have to pray with you about grandma's passing to share a memory of any good time both of you may have experienced with her while she was living or to, generally speaking, grieve over her death. Just because an atheist doesn't pray to your God doesn't make them devoid of any feeling, especially pain associated with loss of a loved one.
The atheist is only the "outsider" in your imaginative scenario because he is the minority. Imagine now that you, in your beliefs, are the minority in a community of atheists. Grandma dies, and you are the only person trying to pray about it. And for what?
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zombie;6170773 said:
But does it accomplish anything? My answer is no and even if you answer yes, you cannot honestly tell me the results are 100% effective.
And if you don't pray to accomplish something, necessarily, I'd have to ask you what then is the purpose of prayer? If it's to experience "unity", then prayer is not necessary because unity can be experienced a great number of ways other than prayer.. like team sports or family reunions for example. A group of people don't even have to pray to your God to experience the same Unity they would if they did.
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