Black Atheists Question?

[zombie]

What's described in the OP has never occurred, have been called a "backslider" and have been told, "You're lost", though.

Also, am agnostic not an atheist.

Sorry to inform you bruh but you're an atheist.

If you don't believe in god, you're an atheist.

We're not asking you what percentage you don't believe in one?

We're asking if you believe in god or not.

Atheist need to stop claiming agnostics they are not the same thing.

If you don't believe in a god you're an atheist.

It doesn't matter how unsure you are.

If you don't believe in god and you're like 50% you're still an atheist.

I'm 100% sure that there isn't a god just like I'm sure of one-eyed newts, Leprechaun, Meremaids, ghosts, Aliens and those fucking other gods.

If I can't use the scientific method to explain those phenomenon THEY DON'T EXIST.

what you have described is weak atheism which in my opinion is hogwash and is really a form of agnosticism. Buddhism is also agnosticism or theism AND IS NOT REAL ATHEISM.

atheism is the stance that god cannot logically exist therefore there is no god.

 

[ohhhla]

Agnosticism is an answer to question of knowledge, not belief.

You can be an agnostic theist, which most theists are anyways and etc.

And most atheist are agnostic atheists.

Most folks are agnostics anyways but the question is what is your position?

Atheism or Theism

 

[NYETOPn]

What's described in the OP has never occurred, have been called a "backslider" and have been told, "You're lost", though.

Also, am agnostic not an atheist.

Sorry to inform you bruh but you're an atheist.

If you don't believe in god, you're an atheist.

We're not asking you what percentage you don't believe in one?

We're asking if you believe in god or not.

If you don't believe in god, you're an atheist.

Following this line of thinking, I'd also be a theist:

You don't believe he doesn't exist, so therefore you are a theist. It doesn't matter how unsure you are.

 

[zombie]

Agnosticism is an answer to question of knowledge, not belief.

You can be an agnostic theist, which most theists are anyways and etc.

And most atheist are agnostic atheists.

Most folks are agnostics anyways but the question is what is your position?

Atheism or Theism

UTTER NONSENSE If you hold the position that god is unknowable you cannot you say you believe in god, stop with the verbal games. weak atheism is just another word for agnostic wA is personal affirmation of God not existing, it says

i lack belief in god's existence. so what does that mean? It means "for all I know there's no God." which is the same conclusion agnostic comes to.

 

[Bodhi]

UTTER NONSENSE If you hold the position that god is unknowable you cannot you say you believe in god, stop with the verbal games. weak atheism is just another word for agnostic wA is personal affirmation of God not existing, it says

i lack belief in god's existence. so what does that mean? It means "for all I know there's no God." which is the same conclusion agnostic comes to.

knowing (or not knowing) and believing (and not believing) are two separate and distinct positions.

For example, let's suppose someone asks me if my brother is currently visiting my father. I either know or I don't know whether or not my brother is at my father's house. But I can also choose to believe or not believe he's there.

An agnostic theist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I believe he is at my father's house.

An agnostic atheist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I don't believe he's at my father's house.

 

[zombie]

UTTER NONSENSE If you hold the position that god is unknowable you cannot you say you believe in god, stop with the verbal games. weak atheism is just another word for agnostic wA is personal affirmation of God not existing, it says

i lack belief in god's existence. so what does that mean? It means "for all I know there's no God." which is the same conclusion agnostic comes to.

knowing (or not knowing) and believing (and not believing) are two separate and distinct positions.

For example, let's suppose someone asks me if my brother is currently visiting my father. I either know or I don't know whether or not my brother is at my father's house. But I can also choose to believe or not believe he's there.

An agnostic theist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I believe he is at my father's house.

An agnostic atheist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I don't believe he's at my father's house.

semantics and hairsplitting

 

[Bodhi]

UTTER NONSENSE If you hold the position that god is unknowable you cannot you say you believe in god, stop with the verbal games. weak atheism is just another word for agnostic wA is personal affirmation of God not existing, it says

i lack belief in god's existence. so what does that mean? It means "for all I know there's no God." which is the same conclusion agnostic comes to.

knowing (or not knowing) and believing (and not believing) are two separate and distinct positions.

For example, let's suppose someone asks me if my brother is currently visiting my father. I either know or I don't know whether or not my brother is at my father's house. But I can also choose to believe or not believe he's there.

An agnostic theist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I believe he is at my father's house.

An agnostic atheist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I don't believe he's at my father's house.

semantics and hairsplitting

Demonstrate it.

 

[Bodhi]

Following this line of thinking, I'd also be a theist:

You don't believe he doesn't exist, so therefore you are a theist. It doesn't matter how unsure you are.

You either believe or you don't believe. There is no middle ground. An agnostic is someone who says they don't know; Agnosticism has nothing to do with believing. So, you can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist.

 

[zombie]

UTTER NONSENSE If you hold the position that god is unknowable you cannot you say you believe in god, stop with the verbal games. weak atheism is just another word for agnostic wA is personal affirmation of God not existing, it says

i lack belief in god's existence. so what does that mean? It means "for all I know there's no God." which is the same conclusion agnostic comes to.

knowing (or not knowing) and believing (and not believing) are two separate and distinct positions.

For example, let's suppose someone asks me if my brother is currently visiting my father. I either know or I don't know whether or not my brother is at my father's house. But I can also choose to believe or not believe he's there.

An agnostic theist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I believe he is at my father's house.

An agnostic atheist would say: I don't know where my brother is but I don't believe he's at my father's house.

semantics and hairsplitting

Demonstrate it.

The only difference between knowing and believing is proof. knowing is believing with evidence if you affirm something with no evidence for or against it then you have a belief. an agnostic affirms nothing. So if you BELIEVE your brother is at your fathers house you have a belief if you don't believe he's at your fathers house you still have a belief.

an agnostic is one who says he cannot know in other words he cannot attain any knowledge and thus cannot prove gods existence or non existence.

An atheist is one who says i know there is no god and nothing else

 

[whar]

Zombie you are correct in most of your understanding but you overstep a bit in your conclusion. An agnostic is one that claims there are things we can not have any real knowledge of. I am an agnostic atheist. Due to the lack of evidence surrounding God I see no reason to believe such an entity exists. However given the stated nature of the being there is no way to find such evidence.

Your desire to have the terms apply in the manner you desire seem more based on forcing the atheist to provide proof of the non-existence of god. Unfortunately atheist do not make a knowledge claim they simple hold that the evidence presented by the theistic side is inconclusive.

 

[zombie]

Zombie you are correct in most of your understanding but you overstep a bit in your conclusion. An agnostic is one that claims there are things we can not have any real knowledge of. I am an agnostic atheist. Due to the lack of evidence surrounding God I see no reason to believe such an entity exists. However given the stated nature of the being there is no way to find such evidence.

Your desire to have the terms apply in the manner you desire seem more based on forcing the atheist to provide proof of the non-existence of god. Unfortunately atheist do not make a knowledge claim they simple hold that the evidence presented by the theistic side is inconclusive.

an atheist does not believe in god based on logical evidence if you are not convinced that there cannot be a god based on logic then you should not call yourself an atheist. in other words an atheist believes there is enough evdience that god cannot exist,

an agnostic believes that we cannot get that evidence

there is no need to create contradictory words.

 

[Bodhi]

knowing is believing with evidence

No. Knowing is not believing whatsoever. Believing comes from not knowing. If I hold out a closed fist and make a claim that I believe something is there, you have the choice to believe my claim or not believe it. In either case, you would be an agnostic because more than likely you don't know and if you were to be honest, you would admit that you do not know. Not believing my claim is not a belief in itself. This is equivalent to the theists assertion of God. The atheist lacks the belief in God but unbelief is not necessarily a belief per se.

an agnostic is one who says he cannot know in other words he cannot attain any knowledge and thus cannot prove gods existence or non existence.

And the agnostic then has a choice to either believe or not believe in God's existence.

An atheist is one who says i know there is no god and nothing else

An atheist does not have to say that he knows there is no God. An atheist is one who simply lacks belief in God. Most atheists are agnostic; they will tell you they don't know for certain whether there is a God or not but they do not believe in one.

 

[Bodhi]

Zombie you are correct in most of your understanding but you overstep a bit in your conclusion. An agnostic is one that claims there are things we can not have any real knowledge of. I am an agnostic atheist. Due to the lack of evidence surrounding God I see no reason to believe such an entity exists. However given the stated nature of the being there is no way to find such evidence.

Your desire to have the terms apply in the manner you desire seem more based on forcing the atheist to provide proof of the non-existence of god. Unfortunately atheist do not make a knowledge claim they simple hold that the evidence presented by the theistic side is inconclusive.

an atheist does not believe in god based on logical evidence if you are not convinced that there cannot be a god based on logic then you should not call yourself an atheist. in other words an atheist believes there is enough evdience that god cannot exist,

an agnostic believes that we cannot get that evidence

there is no need to create contradictory words.

This is completely ridiculous. I see there's no point in trying to make this clear for you.

 

[Bodhi]

@zombie watch this

 

[zombie]

Zombie you are correct in most of your understanding but you overstep a bit in your conclusion. An agnostic is one that claims there are things we can not have any real knowledge of. I am an agnostic atheist. Due to the lack of evidence surrounding God I see no reason to believe such an entity exists. However given the stated nature of the being there is no way to find such evidence.

Your desire to have the terms apply in the manner you desire seem more based on forcing the atheist to provide proof of the non-existence of god. Unfortunately atheist do not make a knowledge claim they simple hold that the evidence presented by the theistic side is inconclusive.

an atheist does not believe in god based on logical evidence if you are not convinced that there cannot be a god based on logic then you should not call yourself an atheist. in other words an atheist believes there is enough evdience that god cannot exist,

an agnostic believes that we cannot get that evidence

there is no need to create contradictory words.

This is completely ridiculous. I see there's no point in trying to make this clear for you.

I REJECT ALL OTHER FORMS OF ATHEISM except strong atheism

weak atheism agnostic atheism all that is bullshit and is contradictory.

You cannot know some thing unless you can prove it and if you cannot prove it but still affirm it then you have a belief

if you affirm nothing then you are an agnostic.

The agnostic makes no choice

 

[Ajackson17]

I would love to have a woman who does not follow nor belief the Abrahamic religions. I detest them.

 

[zombie]

I would love to have a woman who does not follow nor belief the Abrahamic religions. I detest them.

That's because you are an idiot detesting any religion is foolish.

 

[Ajackson17]

I would love to have a woman who does not follow nor belief the Abrahamic religions. I detest them.

That's because you are an idiot detesting any religion is foolish.

How am I a idiot for not getting factual information and proof? I need evidence.

 

[zombie]

I would love to have a woman who does not follow nor belief the Abrahamic religions. I detest them.

That's because you are an idiot detesting any religion is foolish.

How am I a idiot for not getting factual information and proof? I need evidence.

DISRESPECTING any man's religion is foolish is what i'm saying you can disagree with it but to detest it is stupid i think buddhism is dumb as fuck but i still respect it.

PEOPLE can say whatever they want about religion but at the end of the day religions have created more and inspired man more than anything else. THE most wonderful things have come out of religion and the most horrible also If you cannot see how that is the worthy of respect then you are an idiot.

 

[bambu]

Yeah....

That whole atheist shit is a European invention......

Y'all niggas is lunch meat......

That means you're dissing half of yourself.

Self-hater.

Who said anything about hate????

I'm just stating a fact........

No hating...

You wack.....

Like Fiat said in the thread where they said Feminism is for white women.

Just because it's predominately white doesn't mean it's for white women.

Just like how Science and Engineering is predominately white but it isn't white folks exclusive.

Stop using fallacies because it means you don't have any leg for your argument to stand on.

What fallacies?????

It is understood that Europeans developed the theory of evolution and the belief that the origins of life are accidental.........

What????

*The supremacy of of empire is undeniable*