Bill Gates: There's no scientific explanation of how it (the universe) came about!

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zombie;6884780 said:
The Lonious Monk;6884762 said:
zombie;6884560 said:
you don't need suns for there to be light and planets without suns are called rogue planets light is simply radiation and there are many types of light

Light doesn't stars to exist, but light does need a source, and for 99.9999999% of the natural light on the earth that source is from the Sun and to a lesser extent the other stars. Unless you believe that when God said "Let there be light" he was talking the bio luminescence from some fish swimming around the ocean floor.

Light is just created by atoms changing there state that is how people today can create light. In the universe now, our major source of light is the sun but even without the sun atoms would still exist and if there properties can still change then light can still be created. so in other words the source of light is the atoms

That's a bit of an oversimplification. And the vast majority of the light in the universe is produced by the stars. Without them, the universe would be dark and cold, so the idea that the Bible's reference to God creating light isn't him creating the sun and stars is silly.
 
EmperorRises;6884777 said:
twatgetta;6884739 said:
Albert Einstein, Issac Newton. Nostadamus and Galileo by practice were ALL nothing more than Atheists.. but once on their death beds proclaim Christ....still went to Hell tho'....God is not mocked nor is he a ride you can get on at the last second like a trolly car. FOH

Isaac Newton was a devout Christian, I researched him for a project back in school.
https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/converging-paths-truth/brief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html

Read this. Einstein was agnostic for a while, but didn't truly believe in a personal god.

Nigga your research is flawed....common sense should tell you that if Newton believed in God, he would've referred to the Bible for his answer on gravity. but yet he came up with his own man made theory which if you research, he agreed with the Bible's account. albeit not publicly until he got ready to croak. that's when he procliamed Christ. He wasn't no damn Christian.
 
earth two superman;6884193 said:
"I think it makes sense to believe in God."

Interesting. I had always heard he is an atheist. I don't see the problem with what hes saying though. not like hes stating that the earth is 6000 years old or something. Its more like he enjoys the community and charitable aspect of belonging to a church.

And if anyone is going to heaven, its bill gates really.

Note: He said it makes sense to believe in god, never said anything about his own personal beliefs, those are still a mystery.
 
@DaRiddler when GOD said "let there be light" The Sun wasn't created yet. just light. read up on that. the Sun and Moon was created when he created the greater light "the sun" and the lesser light "the moon"...No where in Genisis did he say the "let there be light and the Sun was created" or it wouldv'e said that.
 
Being a scientist doesn't necessitate that you not believe in God. Even Einstein believed in God, though he was a deist and not a theist like most of your believers.

A lot of people that aren't really involved in science choose to believe that science contradicts God and his word. Whereas scientists who believe in God typically believe that science just gives an understanding of how God's creations work.

twatgetta;6884896 said:
@DaRiddler when GOD said "let there be light" The Sun wasn't created yet. just light. read up on that. the Sun and Moon was created when he created the greater light "the sun" and the lesser light "the moon"...No where in Genisis did he say the "let there be light and the Sun was created" or it wouldv'e said that.

Light doesn't just exist on it's own. Typically there is something there producing it. Therefore, it would make sense to believe that when God created light he also created the primary systems for producing light: the stars. On top of that, you last sentence is kinda silly. The Bible is full of stuff that is open for interpretation. If everything was spelled out to the letter, then there would be no such thing as denominations or any other type of divisions in the faith because everyone would inevitably believe the same exact thing.

Edit: Never mind. You're right.
 
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twatgetta;6884896 said:
@DaRiddler when GOD said "let there be light" The Sun wasn't created yet. just light. read up on that. the Sun and Moon was created when he created the greater light "the sun" and the lesser light "the moon"...No where in Genisis did he say the "let there be light and the Sun was created" or it wouldv'e said that.

Nigga, youre repeating what I said.
 
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The Lonious Monk;6884898 said:
Being a scientist doesn't necessitate that you not believe in God. Even Einstein believed in God, though he was a deist and not a theist like most of your believers.

A lot of people that aren't really involved in science choose to believe that science contradicts God and his word. Whereas scientists who believe in God typically believe that science just gives an understanding of how God's creations work.

Being a "deist" and believing in GOD are not the same thing. you can be a deist and believe in the Devil. Deist simply means a "belief in A GOD"...there are many "GODs" people worship. most of them are wicked and evil in nature. Narrow is the way to the One true God Almighty though.
 
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The Lonious Monk;6884864 said:
zombie;6884780 said:
The Lonious Monk;6884762 said:
zombie;6884560 said:
you don't need suns for there to be light and planets without suns are called rogue planets light is simply radiation and there are many types of light

Light doesn't stars to exist, but light does need a source, and for 99.9999999% of the natural light on the earth that source is from the Sun and to a lesser extent the other stars. Unless you believe that when God said "Let there be light" he was talking the bio luminescence from some fish swimming around the ocean floor.

Light is just created by atoms changing there state that is how people today can create light. In the universe now, our major source of light is the sun but even without the sun atoms would still exist and if there properties can still change then light can still be created. so in other words the source of light is the atoms

That's a bit of an oversimplification. And the vast majority of the light in the universe is produced by the stars. Without them, the universe would be dark and cold, so the idea that the Bible's reference to God creating light isn't him creating the sun and stars is silly.

It is an oversimplification but i am not going to write the essay it would take to properly explain light to people on the I.C. You don't need the sun for light, he said let there be light for there to be light there must also have been many other forces because there being light requires them. Light is not dependant on the sun for it's existence but the forces that create light can also lead to the creation of suns
 
twatgetta;6884877 said:
EmperorRises;6884777 said:
twatgetta;6884739 said:
Albert Einstein, Issac Newton. Nostadamus and Galileo by practice were ALL nothing more than Atheists.. but once on their death beds proclaim Christ....still went to Hell tho'....God is not mocked nor is he a ride you can get on at the last second like a trolly car. FOH

Isaac Newton was a devout Christian, I researched him for a project back in school.
https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/converging-paths-truth/brief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html

Read this. Einstein was agnostic for a while, but didn't truly believe in a personal god.

Nigga your research is flawed....common sense should tell you that if Newton believed in God, he would've referred to the Bible for his answer on gravity. but yet he came up with his own man made theory which if you research, he agreed with the Bible's account. albeit not publicly until he got ready to croak. that's when he procliamed Christ. He wasn't no damn Christian.

There is no biblical account of gravity! There is no bibilical account of atoms, neutrons, dna, genetics, and etc and etc. We humans had to find this out, the hebrews knew none of this. They thought earth was a dome shape, not a sphere and they thought the planets and the sun spun around us, when it's the exact opposite. Dude the math, sciences, and etc weren't the hebrews greatest points. Hell, the egyptians were off 3 yards from the earth's circumference. I go by a civilization maths and sciences and how accurate they are. The Dogon don't believe in the biblical god, but they were able to spot planets and tell what they were made of until recently.

Bottom line no one has all the answers, not the bible, not all the science books in the world, not all the religious documents in the world. No one has all the answers, but what answers we do have we can make "hypothesis" but beyond that, no man can condemn another man because he knows nothing.
 
God is The LIGHT, there are scriptures that goes into details on how bright GOD's light is...

I'm the Light of the World ect, but I can't remember the dude that had a vision of what may have been close to GOD's image, but his account is in the Bible, he describe what his image was, and went into details how GOD's light was,

 
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twatgetta;6884911 said:
Being a "deist" and believing in GOD are not the same thing. you can be a deist and believe in the Devil. Deist simply means a "belief in A GOD"...there are many "GODs" people worship. most of them are wicked and evil in nature. Narrow is the way to the One true God Almighty though.

Ummm, ok. This is nice, but it has nothing to do with what I said. I said Einstein believed in God and that he was a deist. I never said he believed in God because he was a deist.

zombie;6884915 said:
It is an oversimplification but i am not going to write the essay it would take to properly explain light to people on the I.C. You don't need the sun for light, he said let there be light for there to be light there must also have been many other forces because there being light requires them. Light is not dependant on the sun for it's existence but the forces that create light can also lead to the creation of suns

You guys are right. The Bible does specifically say that the Sun, Moon, and stars were created after light. That said, nowhere did I say that light needed the sun to exist. I only pointed out that most of the light in the universe exists because of the Sun and other stars. My argument was that the statement made in the Bible was figurative and was speaking less about the actual creation of light as a phenomenon and more about the creation of the light that is seen on the Earth which would be a result of creating the Sun. However, as I said, you guys are right, the Bible does distinguish clearly between those two acts of creation.

 
Knock_Twice;6884938 said:
God is The LIGHT, there are scriptures that goes into details on how bright GOD's light is...

I'm the Light of the World ect, but I can't remember the dude that had a vision of what may have been close to GOD's image, but his account is in the Bible, he describe what his image was, and went into details how GOD's light was,

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EmperorRises;6884919 said:
twatgetta;6884877 said:
EmperorRises;6884777 said:
twatgetta;6884739 said:
Albert Einstein, Issac Newton. Nostadamus and Galileo by practice were ALL nothing more than Atheists.. but once on their death beds proclaim Christ....still went to Hell tho'....God is not mocked nor is he a ride you can get on at the last second like a trolly car. FOH

Isaac Newton was a devout Christian, I researched him for a project back in school.
https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/converging-paths-truth/brief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html

Read this. Einstein was agnostic for a while, but didn't truly believe in a personal god.

Nigga your research is flawed....common sense should tell you that if Newton believed in God, he would've referred to the Bible for his answer on gravity. but yet he came up with his own man made theory which if you research, he agreed with the Bible's account. albeit not publicly until he got ready to croak. that's when he procliamed Christ. He wasn't no damn Christian.

There is no biblical account of gravity! There is no bibilical account of atoms, neutrons, dna, genetics, and etc and etc. We humans had to find this out, the hebrews knew none of this. They thought earth was a dome shape, not a sphere and they thought the planets and the sun spun around us, when it's the exact opposite. Dude the math, sciences, and etc weren't the hebrews greatest points. Hell, the egyptians were off 3 yards from the earth's circumference. I go by a civilization maths and sciences and how accurate they are. The Dogon don't believe in the biblical god, but they were able to spot planets and tell what they were made of until recently.

Bottom line no one has all the answers, not the bible, not all the science books in the world, not all the religious documents in the world. No one has all the answers, but what answers we do have we can make "hypothesis" but beyond that, no man can condemn another man because he knows nothing.

bruh...you lost as fuck on this subject. care to reset and reboot? Genesis explains all this shit perfectly. You just lack the understanding. your fault. and YES, ALL the answers you need from fighting crime, to fighting disease is right there in the Holy Bible. YOU just decide not to care to understand it and project your own opinion, which is utter bullshit.

 
The Lonious Monk;6884944 said:
twatgetta;6884911 said:
Being a "deist" and believing in GOD are not the same thing. you can be a deist and believe in the Devil. Deist simply means a "belief in A GOD"...there are many "GODs" people worship. most of them are wicked and evil in nature. Narrow is the way to the One true God Almighty though.

Ummm, ok. This is nice, but it has nothing to do with what I said. I said Einstein believed in God and that he was a deist. I never said he believed in God because he was a deist.

zombie;6884915 said:
It is an oversimplification but i am not going to write the essay it would take to properly explain light to people on the I.C. You don't need the sun for light, he said let there be light for there to be light there must also have been many other forces because there being light requires them. Light is not dependant on the sun for it's existence but the forces that create light can also lead to the creation of suns

You guys are right. The Bible does specifically say that the Sun, Moon, and stars were created after light. That said, nowhere did I say that light needed the sun to exist. I only pointed out that most of the light in the universe exists because of the Sun and other stars. My argument was that the statement made in the Bible was figurative and was speaking less about the actual creation of light as a phenomenon and more about the creation of the light that is seen on the Earth which would be a result of creating the Sun. However, as I said, you guys are right, the Bible does distinguish clearly between those two acts of creation.

So therefore we can both conclude that he wasnt' talkin about the Most High God of the Bible but instead just that he believed in A God, right? This is how trickery of Satan works. Clouds the mind.

 
twatgetta;6885011 said:
The Lonious Monk;6884944 said:
twatgetta;6884911 said:
Being a "deist" and believing in GOD are not the same thing. you can be a deist and believe in the Devil. Deist simply means a "belief in A GOD"...there are many "GODs" people worship. most of them are wicked and evil in nature. Narrow is the way to the One true God Almighty though.

Ummm, ok. This is nice, but it has nothing to do with what I said. I said Einstein believed in God and that he was a deist. I never said he believed in God because he was a deist.

zombie;6884915 said:
It is an oversimplification but i am not going to write the essay it would take to properly explain light to people on the I.C. You don't need the sun for light, he said let there be light for there to be light there must also have been many other forces because there being light requires them. Light is not dependant on the sun for it's existence but the forces that create light can also lead to the creation of suns

You guys are right. The Bible does specifically say that the Sun, Moon, and stars were created after light. That said, nowhere did I say that light needed the sun to exist. I only pointed out that most of the light in the universe exists because of the Sun and other stars. My argument was that the statement made in the Bible was figurative and was speaking less about the actual creation of light as a phenomenon and more about the creation of the light that is seen on the Earth which would be a result of creating the Sun. However, as I said, you guys are right, the Bible does distinguish clearly between those two acts of creation.

So therefore we can both conclude that he wasnt' talkin about the Most High God of the Bible but instead just that he believed in A God, right? This is how trickery of Satan works. Clouds the mind.

No, this is how trying to overanalyze shit works. No one in here is talking about Vishnu or Osiris. We're all talking about the Judeo-Christian god when we say "God." So when I say he believed in God and was a deist, that's who I'm talking about.
 
twatgetta;6885003 said:
EmperorRises;6884919 said:
twatgetta;6884877 said:
EmperorRises;6884777 said:
twatgetta;6884739 said:
Albert Einstein, Issac Newton. Nostadamus and Galileo by practice were ALL nothing more than Atheists.. but once on their death beds proclaim Christ....still went to Hell tho'....God is not mocked nor is he a ride you can get on at the last second like a trolly car. FOH

Isaac Newton was a devout Christian, I researched him for a project back in school.
https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/converging-paths-truth/brief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html

Read this. Einstein was agnostic for a while, but didn't truly believe in a personal god.

Nigga your research is flawed....common sense should tell you that if Newton believed in God, he would've referred to the Bible for his answer on gravity. but yet he came up with his own man made theory which if you research, he agreed with the Bible's account. albeit not publicly until he got ready to croak. that's when he procliamed Christ. He wasn't no damn Christian.

There is no biblical account of gravity! There is no bibilical account of atoms, neutrons, dna, genetics, and etc and etc. We humans had to find this out, the hebrews knew none of this. They thought earth was a dome shape, not a sphere and they thought the planets and the sun spun around us, when it's the exact opposite. Dude the math, sciences, and etc weren't the hebrews greatest points. Hell, the egyptians were off 3 yards from the earth's circumference. I go by a civilization maths and sciences and how accurate they are. The Dogon don't believe in the biblical god, but they were able to spot planets and tell what they were made of until recently.

Bottom line no one has all the answers, not the bible, not all the science books in the world, not all the religious documents in the world. No one has all the answers, but what answers we do have we can make "hypothesis" but beyond that, no man can condemn another man because he knows nothing.

bruh...you lost as fuck on this subject. care to reset and reboot? Genesis explains all this shit perfectly. You just lack the understanding. your fault. and YES, ALL the answers you need from fighting crime, to fighting disease is right there in the Holy Bible. YOU just decide not to care to understand it and project your own opinion, which is utter bullshit.

Nigga about to ask...So how you fight Herpes lol

The bible states wait until marriage..a man should have one wife and she have one husband..

follow those directions (every one including me) this is how you fight that disease but a nigga is looking in the bible for a prescription or a formula or some shit to be in the books lol..smh but skipped over the whole one man one woman instruction

That's why you niggas platform is dumb...evolution don't teach that shit...

 
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twatgetta;6885003 said:
EmperorRises;6884919 said:
twatgetta;6884877 said:
EmperorRises;6884777 said:
twatgetta;6884739 said:
Albert Einstein, Issac Newton. Nostadamus and Galileo by practice were ALL nothing more than Atheists.. but once on their death beds proclaim Christ....still went to Hell tho'....God is not mocked nor is he a ride you can get on at the last second like a trolly car. FOH

Isaac Newton was a devout Christian, I researched him for a project back in school.
https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/converging-paths-truth/brief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html

Read this. Einstein was agnostic for a while, but didn't truly believe in a personal god.

Nigga your research is flawed....common sense should tell you that if Newton believed in God, he would've referred to the Bible for his answer on gravity. but yet he came up with his own man made theory which if you research, he agreed with the Bible's account. albeit not publicly until he got ready to croak. that's when he procliamed Christ. He wasn't no damn Christian.

There is no biblical account of gravity! There is no bibilical account of atoms, neutrons, dna, genetics, and etc and etc. We humans had to find this out, the hebrews knew none of this. They thought earth was a dome shape, not a sphere and they thought the planets and the sun spun around us, when it's the exact opposite. Dude the math, sciences, and etc weren't the hebrews greatest points. Hell, the egyptians were off 3 yards from the earth's circumference. I go by a civilization maths and sciences and how accurate they are. The Dogon don't believe in the biblical god, but they were able to spot planets and tell what they were made of until recently.

Bottom line no one has all the answers, not the bible, not all the science books in the world, not all the religious documents in the world. No one has all the answers, but what answers we do have we can make "hypothesis" but beyond that, no man can condemn another man because he knows nothing.

bruh...you lost as fuck on this subject. care to reset and reboot? Genesis explains all this shit perfectly. You just lack the understanding. your fault. and YES, ALL the answers you need from fighting crime, to fighting disease is right there in the Holy Bible. YOU just decide not to care to understand it and project your own opinion, which is utter bullshit.

So where are DNA, atoms, gravity, geographical shifts at, and etc. If you are coming at a moral perspective you might gain some ground bruh, but it doesn't explain everything about everything. You are the one that is lost bruh. Just recongize it was a faith book with morals but not the end to all book.
 

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