Bill Gates: There's no scientific explanation of how it (the universe) came about!

[Lustchyld]

@Thread Starter, I'm still fairly new here (can't even make new threads yet) and I'm curious... are you seriously trying to witness online or is this just your internet schtick?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Question. Why is it that this discussion became one about evolution? Why is the topic of evolution proof or non proof that God exist? Where is the evidence for that and why isn't that challenged? We were speaking on the discovery of the expansion of the universe and evolution comes up. Is this the go to argument? Even people who believe in God don't discount evolution. Even if it was completely fabricated, what does that have to do with the question of God or the question of the origin of the universe and how do you know what God did to create everything (besides scripture)?

Evolution goes against the word of God. Genesis 1 and 2 gives the origins of creation. Different parts of the creation were created on different days. Adam even gives names to ALL the animals that God created, so how can evolution be true when God specifically stated that everything was created after it's "own kind"?

The focus of evolution is not to explain the origins of man, but to deny the existence of God. That's the cold hard truth. But sadly evolution still can't explain how non-life produces life, why the fossil record lacks proof, and why there's no progress of development. 3 big blanks, but there are many more that I could name as well.

Frankly evolution has more holes in it than all the swiss cheese in the world combined. The theory is deader than a dodo bird. It's complete malarkey. But when you believe the lie, you will do anything to defend it; even when you know it's complete horse manure just so you don't have to admit you're wrong. That's pride at it's worst. No wonder the father of all lies is the enemy himself, the root of the stench of pride. Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

You guys still debating?

Nah, just discussing truth.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@Thread Starter, I'm still fairly new here (can't even make new threads yet) and I'm curious... are you seriously trying to witness online or is this just your internet schtick?

I witness 24/7 my friend. The great commission tells all the followers of Jesus Christ to go out into all the world and make disciples, teaching them everything that He commands and baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But how can anybody believe unless they first hear? Thus, faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

This is my full time occupation. I'm actually attending seminary to be ordained to preach. One day, LORD willing, I will walk into my destiny which will be in Jerusalem. Hallelujah!

Do you believe in the LORD Jesus Christ?

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Question. Why is it that this discussion became one about evolution? Why is the topic of evolution proof or non proof that God exist? Where is the evidence for that and why isn't that challenged? We were speaking on the discovery of the expansion of the universe and evolution comes up. Is this the go to argument? Even people who believe in God don't discount evolution. Even if it was completely fabricated, what does that have to do with the question of God or the question of the origin of the universe and how do you know what God did to create everything (besides scripture)?

Evolution goes against the word of God. Genesis 1 and 2 gives the origins of creation. Different parts of the creation were created on different days. Adam even gives names to ALL the animals that God created, so how can evolution be true when God specifically stated that everything was created after it's "own kind"?

The focus of evolution is not to explain the origins of man, but to deny the existence of God. That's the cold hard truth. But sadly evolution still can't explain how non-life produces life, why the fossil record lacks proof, and why there's no progress of development. 3 big blanks, but there are many more that I could name as well.

Frankly evolution has more holes in it than all the swiss cheese in the world combined. The theory is deader than a dodo bird. It's complete malarkey. But when you believe the lie, you will do anything to defend it; even when you know it's complete horse manure just so you don't have to admit you're wrong. That's pride at it's worst. No wonder the father of all lies is the enemy himself, the root of the stench of pride. Amen.

For whatever holes that evolution has, all you have is an old moldy book written by charlatans. Actually you don't have that, your original documents were lost and rewritten by Kings and Caesars. I guess you also have a hope and faith. What you don't have is truth. But fuck it, it's your life. I just would like you religious weirdos to stop trying to infringe on the lives of others with your fucked up politics like the current Supreme Court case.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Question. Why is it that this discussion became one about evolution? Why is the topic of evolution proof or non proof that God exist? Where is the evidence for that and why isn't that challenged? We were speaking on the discovery of the expansion of the universe and evolution comes up. Is this the go to argument? Even people who believe in God don't discount evolution. Even if it was completely fabricated, what does that have to do with the question of God or the question of the origin of the universe and how do you know what God did to create everything (besides scripture)?

Evolution goes against the word of God. Genesis 1 and 2 gives the origins of creation. Different parts of the creation were created on different days. Adam even gives names to ALL the animals that God created, so how can evolution be true when God specifically stated that everything was created after it's "own kind"?

The focus of evolution is not to explain the origins of man, but to deny the existence of God. That's the cold hard truth. But sadly evolution still can't explain how non-life produces life, why the fossil record lacks proof, and why there's no progress of development. 3 big blanks, but there are many more that I could name as well.

Frankly evolution has more holes in it than all the swiss cheese in the world combined. The theory is deader than a dodo bird. It's complete malarkey. But when you believe the lie, you will do anything to defend it; even when you know it's complete horse manure just so you don't have to admit you're wrong. That's pride at it's worst. No wonder the father of all lies is the enemy himself, the root of the stench of pride. Amen.

For whatever holes that evolution has, all you have is an old moldy book written by charlatans. Actually you don't have that, your original documents were lost and rewritten by Kings and Caesars. I guess you also have a hope and faith. What you don't have is truth. But fuck it, it's your life. I just would like you religious weirdos to stop trying to infringe on the lives of others with your fucked up politics like the current Supreme Court case.

1. Might want to research the dead sea scrolls for info about Old Testament manuscripts

2. For New Testament you can check this site out.http://carm.org/manuscript-evidence

cliffs:

"There are presently 5,686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament. If we were to compare the number of New Testament manuscripts to other ancient writings, we find that the New Testament manuscripts far outweigh the others in quantity."

-2nd closest is Homers (illiad) with 643 copies.

3. Jesus Christ gave His disciples the command to go forth and preach the gospel to every creature on planet earth. Those who believe will be saved, those who don't won't. Amen.

4. Will you say the sinners prayer with me today?

 

[DarcSkies]

Dear Heavenly cuzz! I come to you humbled and bewildered my nigga!

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Dear Heavenly cuzz! I come to you humbled and bewildered my nigga!

Oh, they tell me of a home far beyond the skies,

Oh, they tell me of a home far away;

Oh, they tell me of a home where no storm clouds rise,

Oh, they tell me of an unclouded day.

Oh, they tell me of a King in His beauty there,

And they tell me that mine eyes shall behold Him in the skies

Where He sits upon the throne that is whiter than snow,

In the city that is made of gold.

Do you want to go there?

 

[xxCivicxx]

"Listen--science and technology rules our world and it will continue to do so.Mankind has come so far not because of religion;

Science,free thinkers,and technology has brought us this far.While some black men look for answers in religion, the white man look for solutions in science.

Religion almost always stiffles free thought and innovation.Religion controls and instills fear;religous types have monopolise morality and preach religious hatred Religion want to keep you in the dark,in your cocoon. Science on the other hand liberates the very best of human ingenuity by means of reasoning, experimentation,exploration and adventurism"

History says otherwise it was religion that put the european on the track to rule the world not science the same goes for the arab.

That's both correct and incorrect. Religion is responsible for the European Crusades, as well as the European dark ages. From a technological standpoint, religion set Europe back a good 400 years of potential advancements. Both were large-scale crimes against humanity

Is it any wonder why the Europeans immediately started stealing from/ stealing Africans around that time? Anything Christianity touches becomes tainted. The continent of Africa is the only example u should need but the same applies to the Americas as well

 

[xxCivicxx]

You guys are funny w all the evolution nonsense like, "pigs don't have wings".

That's not how evolution works.

Plus, there's numerous species of pig, that is evolution of the pig.

you missing the point.. evolution states that something over millions of years can become somthing else... (reptiles apparently evolved into some species of birds for example) how can that happen if reptiles cant become birds... (or grow feathers)

How do you know that dinosaurs didn't evolve into birds?

Do you realize that these aren't baseless claims but claims based on research through fossil records?

regardless of that u cant have it both ways..... you can't say "birds came from reptiles" yet get mad when we say pigs cant grow wings...

You're very stupid

 

[xxCivicxx]

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[xxCivicxx]

I don't get why a pig wouldn't be able to grow wings or anything else for that matter.

Science says we started in the ocean.

whatever was in the ocean realized that there was land and figured it would be more beneficial to live on land.

some years later that animal made its way to live on land and started to grow legs.

Evolution also says a giraffe used to have short necks therefore they couldn't reach the trees to get food.

Years later they grew long necks to adapt.

With that thinking a pig could say you know what I think wanna fly because it would be beneficial for me to do so.

Years later pigs can fly.

I fail to see the difference.

you don't dictate your evolutionary changes, your environment does. you don't just randomly decide to become something different & then it happens.

do you know how many usain bolts & lebron james' would be running around if this was possible?

Huh?

Exactly

for my own sanity...the problem people are having with evolution is just about the beginning of species right?

people ain't denying the observable changes...like poaching causing elephants to not have tusks...wolves to dogs & shit like that right?

Micro evolution can be observed. It's a change (watch this now) within a species!

Macro evolution has never been observed, will never be observed, and can never be observed because it is a LIE. One species doesn't morph, evolve, change, or teleport into a completely different species because of (whatever) factors you won't to throw out there. It just does not happen.

God created everything thing after their own KIND! That is why Adam could not find someone who was "like him" when he named all the animals.

Amen.

dogs & wolves are different species...

it takes many many generations for speciation to occur. of course nobody lived that long to sit & record the beginning to end. what's your point?

the bolded sounds like god being used to fill in blanks again...

Wolves and Dogs are of the same kind. They both belong to the canidae family. So your argument is not valid. Amen.

Dam you're pretty stupid yourself

BTW where did bill gates say he believed in god? He just said it makes sense. Imo, he's saying that a belief in god maintains moral order, which is what most successful societies are built on

 

[zombie]

"Listen--science and technology rules our world and it will continue to do so.Mankind has come so far not because of religion;

Science,free thinkers,and technology has brought us this far.While some black men look for answers in religion, the white man look for solutions in science.

Religion almost always stiffles free thought and innovation.Religion controls and instills fear;religous types have monopolise morality and preach religious hatred Religion want to keep you in the dark,in your cocoon. Science on the other hand liberates the very best of human ingenuity by means of reasoning, experimentation,exploration and adventurism"

History says otherwise it was religion that put the european on the track to rule the world not science the same goes for the arab.

That's both correct and incorrect. Religion is responsible for the European Crusades, as well as the European dark ages. From a technological standpoint, religion set Europe back a good 400 years of potential advancements. Both were large-scale crimes against humanity

Is it any wonder why the Europeans immediately started stealing from/ stealing Africans around that time? Anything Christianity touches becomes tainted. The continent of Africa is the only example u should need but the same applies to the Americas as well

The decline in european civilzation and order that we call the dark ages has it's genesis in the barbarian tribes destruction of rome, the roman empire had been weakening it's military power by growing too large for centuries before that and by using too many non-romans in their armies. The people who destroyed rome used to work for rome.

religion helped the united roman empire hold onto power for a few centuries more THAN it would have had otherwise, it helped preserve the eastern empire for centuries more until it was finally defeated by islam. Meanwhile In western europe what was left of the knowledge of the romans was held onto by the church. Europeans stole from the arabs during the crusades because that is what they went there to do in the first place. Everything the european touches becomes tainted that that included christianity.

 

[xxCivicxx]

"Listen--science and technology rules our world and it will continue to do so.Mankind has come so far not because of religion;

Science,free thinkers,and technology has brought us this far.While some black men look for answers in religion, the white man look for solutions in science.

Religion almost always stiffles free thought and innovation.Religion controls and instills fear;religous types have monopolise morality and preach religious hatred Religion want to keep you in the dark,in your cocoon. Science on the other hand liberates the very best of human ingenuity by means of reasoning, experimentation,exploration and adventurism"

History says otherwise it was religion that put the european on the track to rule the world not science the same goes for the arab.

That's both correct and incorrect. Religion is responsible for the European Crusades, as well as the European dark ages. From a technological standpoint, religion set Europe back a good 400 years of potential advancements. Both were large-scale crimes against humanity

Is it any wonder why the Europeans immediately started stealing from/ stealing Africans around that time? Anything Christianity touches becomes tainted. The continent of Africa is the only example u should need but the same applies to the Americas as well

The decline in european civilzation and order that we call the dark ages has it's genesis in the barbarian tribes destruction of rome, the roman empire had been weakening it's military power by growing too large for centuries before that and by using too many non-romans in their armies. The people who destroyed rome used to work for rome.

religion helped the united roman empire hold onto power for a few centuries more THAN it would have had otherwise, it helped preserve the eastern empire for centuries more until it was finally defeated by islam. Meanwhile In western europe what was left of the knowledge of the romans was held onto by the church. Europeans stole from the arabs during the crusades because that is what they went there to do in the first place. Everything the european touches becomes tainted that that included christianity.

Bold: You and and I both know that the spread of christianity played a major role in the weakening of rome from the inside

Underlined: The crusades were holy wars. There were massacres, rapes and cannibalistic activities committed by christian soldiers in the name of god and they killed/stole from a lot more than just muslims

 

[zombie]

"Listen--science and technology rules our world and it will continue to do so.Mankind has come so far not because of religion;

Science,free thinkers,and technology has brought us this far.While some black men look for answers in religion, the white man look for solutions in science.

Religion almost always stiffles free thought and innovation.Religion controls and instills fear;religous types have monopolise morality and preach religious hatred Religion want to keep you in the dark,in your cocoon. Science on the other hand liberates the very best of human ingenuity by means of reasoning, experimentation,exploration and adventurism"

History says otherwise it was religion that put the european on the track to rule the world not science the same goes for the arab.

That's both correct and incorrect. Religion is responsible for the European Crusades, as well as the European dark ages. From a technological standpoint, religion set Europe back a good 400 years of potential advancements. Both were large-scale crimes against humanity

Is it any wonder why the Europeans immediately started stealing from/ stealing Africans around that time? Anything Christianity touches becomes tainted. The continent of Africa is the only example u should need but the same applies to the Americas as well

The decline in european civilzation and order that we call the dark ages has it's genesis in the barbarian tribes destruction of rome, the roman empire had been weakening it's military power by growing too large for centuries before that and by using too many non-romans in their armies. The people who destroyed rome used to work for rome.

religion helped the united roman empire hold onto power for a few centuries more THAN it would have had otherwise, it helped preserve the eastern empire for centuries more until it was finally defeated by islam. Meanwhile In western europe what was left of the knowledge of the romans was held onto by the church. Europeans stole from the arabs during the crusades because that is what they went there to do in the first place. Everything the european touches becomes tainted that that included christianity.

Bold: You and and I both know that the spread of christianity played a major role in the weakening of rome from the inside

Underlined: The crusades were holy wars. There were massacres, rapes and cannibalistic activities committed by christian soldiers in the name of god and they killed/stole from a lot more than just muslims

No @ the bolded you cut the statement in half. Christianity started off as nothing but another cult, by the time christianity grew large enough to be a problem for the pagans rome was already weak and had a series of bad rulers.

Rome fell because they grew too big and had to use too mercenary soldiers to fight their battles who later turned on them. Christianity was used to unite the empire making it strong not weak

 

[LUClEN]

BILL GATES is not a astrophysicist , fuck does he know

Thank you! It's common sense this thief isn't a genius nor knows what the hell he is talking about. Not to say there is no creator, but to give thumbs up to the Catholic Church when they have done more harm than any good.

Morality is logical and makes sense when you don't let emotions invade logic.

Logical morality is based on subjective values though.

 

[xxCivicxx]

"Listen--science and technology rules our world and it will continue to do so.Mankind has come so far not because of religion;

Science,free thinkers,and technology has brought us this far.While some black men look for answers in religion, the white man look for solutions in science.

Religion almost always stiffles free thought and innovation.Religion controls and instills fear;religous types have monopolise morality and preach religious hatred Religion want to keep you in the dark,in your cocoon. Science on the other hand liberates the very best of human ingenuity by means of reasoning, experimentation,exploration and adventurism"

History says otherwise it was religion that put the european on the track to rule the world not science the same goes for the arab.

That's both correct and incorrect. Religion is responsible for the European Crusades, as well as the European dark ages. From a technological standpoint, religion set Europe back a good 400 years of potential advancements. Both were large-scale crimes against humanity

Is it any wonder why the Europeans immediately started stealing from/ stealing Africans around that time? Anything Christianity touches becomes tainted. The continent of Africa is the only example u should need but the same applies to the Americas as well

The decline in european civilzation and order that we call the dark ages has it's genesis in the barbarian tribes destruction of rome, the roman empire had been weakening it's military power by growing too large for centuries before that and by using too many non-romans in their armies. The people who destroyed rome used to work for rome.

religion helped the united roman empire hold onto power for a few centuries more THAN it would have had otherwise, it helped preserve the eastern empire for centuries more until it was finally defeated by islam. Meanwhile In western europe what was left of the knowledge of the romans was held onto by the church. Europeans stole from the arabs during the crusades because that is what they went there to do in the first place. Everything the european touches becomes tainted that that included christianity.

Bold: You and and I both know that the spread of christianity played a major role in the weakening of rome from the inside

Underlined: The crusades were holy wars. There were massacres, rapes and cannibalistic activities committed by christian soldiers in the name of god and they killed/stole from a lot more than just muslims

No @ the bolded you cut the statement in half. Christianity started off as nothing but another cult, by the time christianity grew large enough to be a problem for the pagans rome was already weak and had a series of bad rulers.

Rome fell because they grew too big and had to use too mercenary soldiers to fight their battles who later turned on them. Christianity was used to unite the empire making it strong not weak

Christianity was the major religion within Rome for almost a century before Rome fell. 3rd century Rome, which was the period in which christianity was gaining popularity, was one of the most stable time periods in Rome. Then in the 4th century christians take over completely and by the 5th century Rome is a fraction of it's size. That coincidence?

 

[zombie]

"Listen--science and technology rules our world and it will continue to do so.Mankind has come so far not because of religion;

Science,free thinkers,and technology has brought us this far.While some black men look for answers in religion, the white man look for solutions in science.

Religion almost always stiffles free thought and innovation.Religion controls and instills fear;religous types have monopolise morality and preach religious hatred Religion want to keep you in the dark,in your cocoon. Science on the other hand liberates the very best of human ingenuity by means of reasoning, experimentation,exploration and adventurism"

History says otherwise it was religion that put the european on the track to rule the world not science the same goes for the arab.

That's both correct and incorrect. Religion is responsible for the European Crusades, as well as the European dark ages. From a technological standpoint, religion set Europe back a good 400 years of potential advancements. Both were large-scale crimes against humanity

Is it any wonder why the Europeans immediately started stealing from/ stealing Africans around that time? Anything Christianity touches becomes tainted. The continent of Africa is the only example u should need but the same applies to the Americas as well

The decline in european civilzation and order that we call the dark ages has it's genesis in the barbarian tribes destruction of rome, the roman empire had been weakening it's military power by growing too large for centuries before that and by using too many non-romans in their armies. The people who destroyed rome used to work for rome.

religion helped the united roman empire hold onto power for a few centuries more THAN it would have had otherwise, it helped preserve the eastern empire for centuries more until it was finally defeated by islam. Meanwhile In western europe what was left of the knowledge of the romans was held onto by the church. Europeans stole from the arabs during the crusades because that is what they went there to do in the first place. Everything the european touches becomes tainted that that included christianity.

Bold: You and and I both know that the spread of christianity played a major role in the weakening of rome from the inside

Underlined: The crusades were holy wars. There were massacres, rapes and cannibalistic activities committed by christian soldiers in the name of god and they killed/stole from a lot more than just muslims

No @ the bolded you cut the statement in half. Christianity started off as nothing but another cult, by the time christianity grew large enough to be a problem for the pagans rome was already weak and had a series of bad rulers.

Rome fell because they grew too big and had to use too mercenary soldiers to fight their battles who later turned on them. Christianity was used to unite the empire making it strong not weak

Christianity was the major religion within Rome for almost a century before Rome fell. 3rd century Rome, which was the period in which christianity was gaining popularity, was one of the most stable time periods in Rome. Then in the 4th century christians take over completely and by the 5th century Rome is a fraction of it's size. That coincidence?

Rome was on a slow march to military weakness centuries before christianity became popular and it was christianity that tacked on more stability to rome during the 4th century.western Rome was destroyed by the people it used to fight it's wars alaric was trained by rome and later sacked rome and that was what led to the decline of the western empire. Not religion.

 

[zombie]

A large system like the roman empire does not fall in one century . the fall began by absorbing barbarins who had no love for the empire into the army. in centuries before it's fall rome would romanize it's conquered people it failed to do this with the germans and instead rome kind of paid them off by allowing them to join the military

 

[xxCivicxx]

Ok then we disagree

Please show me one christian society that has lasted and thrived for 1000+ years. And catholicism would be a horrible response just fyi