Biggie's Murderer Found! (LAPD Dective Tells All)

[TrillRussell]

Damn you Kats have really been programmed to think Suge was some super genius Doctor Doom villain or some shit, was going to debate further but then read the rest of the posts and was like Fuck it. Cannot argue with Drones that have been programmed to believe whatever over the facts and commonsense, but then commonsense is a uncommon thing these days...

The guy is not stupid tho

He had and still has craaazy connects

Not the same though having connects and being smart does not make one capable of planning with precision a hit right next to him where he killed someone he owed 13 million while still owing close to a $100 mill between Dre and Snoop. I mean honestly think about it either of those two would have been more profitable to murk then Pac at that point who was under contract and had the most airtight contract of them all giving them his Masters of all recordings so he could be let out of Jail. You have to let go of a lot of logic in order to believe Suge killed Pac over those other 2 and that he planned a hit with Gangbangers like that while sitting next to the target...

Snoop and Dre weren't raising hell about Money or threatening to take Masters from the studio..All they wanted was their freedom at the time..Pac wanted out and he wanted the money that was owed to him..

Umm actually Dre took all his masters and gave them shits up quick when Suge nem showed up at his front door.

Aw well I never heard about that..but I do know Suge said "When It came to Dre..All He wanted was the freedom to get loose and do his own thing..And I gave him that"...and All Snoop wanted was A fresh start as well..2pac being as vocal as he is..he was the only nigga raising hell about the money he was owed..those other niggas knew better

 

[$ineedmoney$]

...For dudes in here saying "theres no proof of Suge oweing Pac millions"...I remember back then Pac approached Suge about his money after AEOM dropped and sold. Suge gave Pac $200,000 cash. Pac was boasting, "Death Row about to start printing our own money." ...Then later Pac approached Suge about the rest of his money and Suge kept beating around the bushes (Suge had bushes before Birdman). Pac got pissed with Suge and Suge gave Pac a Rolls Royce and told him to STFU. Pac definitely had financial issues with Suge.

 

[T. Sanford]

...For dudes in here saying "theres no proof of Suge oweing Pac millions"...I remember back then Pac approached Suge about his money after AEOM dropped and sold. Suge gave Pac $200,000 cash. Pac was boasting, "Death Row about to start printing our own money." ...Then later Pac approached Suge about the rest of his money and Suge kept beating around the bushes (Suge had bushes before Birdman). Pac got pissed with Suge and Suge gave Pac a Rolls Royce and told him to STFU. Pac definitely had financial issues with Suge.

Damn that's that ether. He paid Pac $200,000 after his sales of AEOM. & this is in 96' that nigga Pac probably could've got that at a show for $200,000

 

[$ineedmoney$]

...For dudes in here saying "theres no proof of Suge oweing Pac millions"...I remember back then Pac approached Suge about his money after AEOM dropped and sold. Suge gave Pac $200,000 cash. Pac was boasting, "Death Row about to start printing our own money." ...Then later Pac approached Suge about the rest of his money and Suge kept beating around the bushes (Suge had bushes before Birdman). Pac got pissed with Suge and Suge gave Pac a Rolls Royce and told him to STFU. Pac definitely had financial issues with Suge.

Damn that's that ether. He paid Pac $200,000 after his sales of AEOM. & this is in 96' that nigga Pac probably could've got that at a show for $200,000

...Pac wanted to have control of his own future and was trying to get Euphanasia Records started. Suge didnt like that. Snoop Dogg's checks was in the bushes too. Fredro Starr said Pac told him "You dont wanna' come over here. Nikkas is gettin' it bad."

 

[TrillRussell]

Damn you Kats have really been programmed to think Suge was some super genius Doctor Doom villain or some shit, was going to debate further but then read the rest of the posts and was like Fuck it. Cannot argue with Drones that have been programmed to believe whatever over the facts and commonsense, but then commonsense is a uncommon thing these days...

If you were alive back then you know Suge was prolly the most feared man in the music industry at the time...This wouldn't even be A topic of discussion if you knew how he was moving back then...And the ironic thing about you niggas talking about people being droned and programmed the same logic can be applied to you niggas that believe everything is simple and nothing beyond the norm ever happens...

 

[TrillRussell]

You gotta take in account. Pac was worth wayyyyyyyy more to Suge alive than dead. Suge was power hungry & he wanted to take over east coast & run bad boy out of the industry. Without Pac your plan destroyed

Nah bruh...2pac was worth more dead than Alive..He had already did like 300 songs done,..and after he died That nigga record sales skyrocketed..every album he dropped was going at least 4x Platinum for a long time..they could drop A Pac album today and that bitch will go platinum..but He could've fell off had he stayed alive..it's possible..but The money being made off his name of the "dead icon" status is up there with Elvis and Marylyn Monroe..so nah I can't agree with that.

But Suge don't make money off of Pac anymore. So he shot himself in his foot

That's because Mama Shakur was up on her business...She Sued Death Row for the money Pac was owed and all of his music and she won..Sold his music to Jive and got A joint label deal..Amaru records if i'm not mistaken..

 

[GetoBoy]

Niggas REALLY believe suge had pac hit??? Y'all on y'all own with that theory I don't see it especially over the change that he would of made ×10 had pac still been alive I mean niggas acting like pac wouldn't have been doing numbers and making millions had he lived...

Deathrow died with pac so "if" and I use that term very loosely, suge had anything to do with it by placing a hit on his biggest money maker WHILE sitting next to him in the car that the hit is pose to take place in he's the dumbest person ever in the rap game and I wouldn't take suge for that big of a dummy

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

Damn you Kats have really been programmed to think Suge was some super genius Doctor Doom villain or some shit, was going to debate further but then read the rest of the posts and was like Fuck it. Cannot argue with Drones that have been programmed to believe whatever over the facts and commonsense, but then commonsense is a uncommon thing these days...

If you were alive back then you know Suge was prolly the most feared man in the music industry at the time...This wouldn't even be A topic of discussion if you knew how he was moving back then...And the ironic thing about you niggas talking about people being droned and programmed the same logic can be applied to you niggas that believe everything is simple and nothing beyond the norm ever happens...

You are young and new so i forgive you I am a Product of the west coast and back then My Uncle was signed to MC Hammer under a development deal I have worked in the westcoast music scene personally since the 90's as a Studio builder, sound board engineer/Beatmaker/ producer, my former Label I worked for worked with E40, Yukmouth Killa Tay, Syko, Mac Dre and many other kats mostly from the bay but all the way to LA from the CD. I am not going to try and convince you any further that your shit is nonsense you can believe what you want it will not make it true. Anyone who grew up out here on the best coast knows what popped off before and after Pac died, they understand the Gang culture and have never fell for the media agenda against the west coast for anyone other then Dre's circle. We all lived through the blackballing after Pac's death and most of us through far less then 6 degrees of separation...

 

[Undergroundraplegend]

Pac was taking Nas like Ls before Nas was .

 

[ericb4prez]

So y'all believe every story about suge but this one

 

[TrillRussell]

Damn you Kats have really been programmed to think Suge was some super genius Doctor Doom villain or some shit, was going to debate further but then read the rest of the posts and was like Fuck it. Cannot argue with Drones that have been programmed to believe whatever over the facts and commonsense, but then commonsense is a uncommon thing these days...

If you were alive back then you know Suge was prolly the most feared man in the music industry at the time...This wouldn't even be A topic of discussion if you knew how he was moving back then...And the ironic thing about you niggas talking about people being droned and programmed the same logic can be applied to you niggas that believe everything is simple and nothing beyond the norm ever happens...

You are young and new so i forgive you I am a Product of the west coast and back then My Uncle was signed to MC Hammer under a development deal I have worked in the westcoast music scene personally since the 90's as a Studio builder, sound board engineer/Beatmaker/ producer, my former Label I worked for worked with E40, Yukmouth Killa Tay, Syko, Mac Dre and many other kats mostly from the bay but all the way to LA from the CD. I am not going to try and convince you any further that your shit is nonsense you can believe what you want it will not make it true. Anyone who grew up out here on the best coast knows what popped off before and after Pac died, they understand the Gang culture and have never fell for the media agenda against the west coast for anyone other then Dre's circle. We all lived through the blackballing after Pac's death and most of us through far less then 6 degrees of separation...

Dog..none of that changes all the facts that were coming out of the mouths of the people that were in the Death Row circle around the time of 2pac's death..show me 1 thing leading up to the actual shooting that I lied about or is fabricated..Everything i'm saying can be confirmed..2pac was having financial issues with Death Row and wanted his money...That's A fact..When Pac was spazzing out he was talking about taking master tapes out of the studio without permission..that's A fact..On the night of the shooting Suge randomly ordered Security guards guarding 2pac not to carry weapons..And that was the 1st time he ever made that order..That's A fact...A lil while after pac had died Kadafi said he knew the shooter,could identify him,and was willing to talk about everything going on with 2pac before he was killed..Got found with A gunshot in his head on the stairs of his apartment building in Jersey..THESE ARE FACTS..I aint just pulling this shit out of the sky my nigga..i'm connecting dots...if you don't see it that's on you..but don't act like the shit don't make sense..

 

[SneakDZA]

You listed 4 "facts" which are all based on hearsay except the part about Kadafi being dead...

1) 2pac was having financial issues with Death Row and wanted his money.

2) When Pac was spazzing out he was talking about taking master tapes out of the studio without permission.

3) On the night of the shooting Suge randomly ordered Security guards guarding 2pac not to carry weapons

4) Kadafi said he knew the shooter,could identify him,and was willing to talk... got found with A gunshot in his head

And even if these were all absolutely true and you could prove them... you're connecting these dots to somehow show Suge decided to have Pac shot with Blade Runner bullets while sitting with him in a car? It just doesn't make very much sense.

 

[TrillRussell]

You listed 4 "facts" which are all based on hearsay except the part about Kadafi being dead...

1) 2pac was having financial issues with Death Row and wanted his money.

2) When Pac was spazzing out he was talking about taking master tapes out of the studio without permission.

3) On the night of the shooting Suge randomly ordered Security guards guarding 2pac not to carry weapons

4) Kadafi said he knew the shooter,could identify him,and was willing to talk... got found with A gunshot in his head

And even if these were all absolutely true and you could prove them... you're connecting these dots to somehow show Suge decided to have Pac shot with Blade Runner bullets while sitting with him in a car? It just doesn't make very much sense.

It's not hearsay if it's coming out of the mouths of people that were knee deep in the company and knew 2pac personally...and That's exactly why A hit would be carried out that way fam...Because it's not normal..and the average person would say "Why would he have A guy hit and he's sitting right next to him?..he could've been killed himself"..but believe what y'all want tho..

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

Damn you Kats have really been programmed to think Suge was some super genius Doctor Doom villain or some shit, was going to debate further but then read the rest of the posts and was like Fuck it. Cannot argue with Drones that have been programmed to believe whatever over the facts and commonsense, but then commonsense is a uncommon thing these days...

If you were alive back then you know Suge was prolly the most feared man in the music industry at the time...This wouldn't even be A topic of discussion if you knew how he was moving back then...And the ironic thing about you niggas talking about people being droned and programmed the same logic can be applied to you niggas that believe everything is simple and nothing beyond the norm ever happens...

You are young and new so i forgive you I am a Product of the west coast and back then My Uncle was signed to MC Hammer under a development deal I have worked in the westcoast music scene personally since the 90's as a Studio builder, sound board engineer/Beatmaker/ producer, my former Label I worked for worked with E40, Yukmouth Killa Tay, Syko, Mac Dre and many other kats mostly from the bay but all the way to LA from the CD. I am not going to try and convince you any further that your shit is nonsense you can believe what you want it will not make it true. Anyone who grew up out here on the best coast knows what popped off before and after Pac died, they understand the Gang culture and have never fell for the media agenda against the west coast for anyone other then Dre's circle. We all lived through the blackballing after Pac's death and most of us through far less then 6 degrees of separation...

Dog..none of that changes all the facts that were coming out of the mouths of the people that were in the Death Row circle around the time of 2pac's death..show me 1 thing leading up to the actual shooting that I lied about or is fabricated..Everything i'm saying can be confirmed..2pac was having financial issues with Death Row and wanted his money...That's A fact..When Pac was spazzing out he was talking about taking master tapes out of the studio without permission..that's A fact..On the night of the shooting Suge randomly ordered Security guards guarding 2pac not to carry weapons..And that was the 1st time he ever made that order..That's A fact...A lil while after pac had died Kadafi said he knew the shooter,could identify him,and was willing to talk about everything going on with 2pac before he was killed..Got found with A gunshot in his head on the stairs of his apartment building in Jersey..THESE ARE FACTS..I aint just pulling this shit out of the sky my nigga..i'm connecting dots...if you don't see it that's on you..but don't act like the shit don't make sense..

1 fact you are leaving out is Kadafi was killed by Roddy family member of Napoleon over some money. Even if you have a master copy of a tape if you do not own the rights you cannot make ascap money on it another fact. Every label operated on some fuck shit at that time TLC went Bankrupt during that era. Pac was negotiating his own Label and Suge let Dre out of his COntract to help Deathrow and Pac get off of interscope and onto Priority for distribution another industry fact. IT is easy to connect invisible Dots when you do not know where the other real dots are...

 

[ericb4prez]

Harry O killed Pac

 

[bbkg79]

Ok fellas your boy is lost... Am I looking at this correctly some LA crips killed Pac who had no relation to B.I.G. Suge hired Poochie to kill B.I.G. not in retaliation but to make it look that way?

“Suge Knight was absolutely enraged. Not only had he been shot at, but his friend [Tupac Shakur] was killed next to him in the car. Suge always knew who was responsible. He looked directly into the eyes of Keefe D, who was in the shooter’s car. Keefe D was a member of the Southside Crips and a well known person to Suge. That explains why the next day this huge war broke out in Compton between Suge Knight’s gang entourage and Keefe D’s gang entourage.

“Suge Knight ended up going to jail on a probation violation, stemming from the beating of Orlando Anderson [Ed. Note—Anderson is Keefe D’s nephew, also a Southside Crip who allegedly shot Tupac.] in the MGM Grand hotel. While Suge was in jail, he conspired with his girlfriend. Suge gave her the directive to get Poochie.

Poochie lay in wait outside the Petersen Automotive Museum. As soon as he became aware of where Biggie was sitting in his car, he drove up, and he shot him.

“Wardell ‘Poochie’ Fouse was paid to kill Biggie"

 

[mc317]

Good job poochie

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

Ok fellas your boy is lost... Am I looking at this correctly some LA crips killed Pac who had no relation to B.I.G. Suge hired Poochie to kill B.I.G. not in retaliation but to make it look that way?

“Suge Knight was absolutely enraged. Not only had he been shot at, but his friend [Tupac Shakur] was killed next to him in the car. Suge always knew who was responsible. He looked directly into the eyes of Keefe D, who was in the shooter’s car. Keefe D was a member of the Southside Crips and a well known person to Suge. That explains why the next day this huge war broke out in Compton between Suge Knight’s gang entourage and Keefe D’s gang entourage.

“Suge Knight ended up going to jail on a probation violation, stemming from the beating of Orlando Anderson [Ed. Note—Anderson is Keefe D’s nephew, also a Southside Crip who allegedly shot Tupac.] in the MGM Grand hotel. While Suge was in jail, he conspired with his girlfriend. Suge gave her the directive to get Poochie.

Poochie lay in wait outside the Petersen Automotive Museum. As soon as he became aware of where Biggie was sitting in his car, he drove up, and he shot him.

“Wardell ‘Poochie’ Fouse was paid to kill Biggie"

From my Understanding the South Side Crips worked security for Badboy and a few other acts so there was some connection...

 

[bull6599]

A few years ago I read an extensive.article that the NY Times did titled "The Takedown of Tupac". They interviewed 1 of his former managers, a former lawyer, & some his personal circle who all confirmed financial disputes w/ DRR.

They said at one point Pac was having his manager & lawyer write letters to Kenner & Suge concerning his money/royalties from his albums. After they went unanswered they personally called/confronted Suge & Kenner who claimed to have never gotten any letters from them. After that Oac had them send the letters through certified mail/courier (UPS, FedEx, etc) to ensure that they couldn't claim they never got them. That's when they started buying Pac Rolexes, Rolls Royce's, & homes to oscify him but none of it was in his name. Not to mention when safe I took Suge to court they found that Pac was being charged for Nate Dogg's child support payments, cars/jewelry for Suge & other ppl, etc.

 

[The_Man]

Pac was about to leave death row after the release of the makaveli album, then he would have taken suge to court and got the money he was owed for the 2 albums he did for death row, pac was worth alot more dead.