Between a 1 and a 10, how big a disappointment is Obama to you?

[kingblaze84]

I struggle between feeling that Obama is really the one dropping the ball and believing that the problems are so systemic that Obama has no realistic option but to play into the bullshit. But ultimately, leadership is about overcoming systemic barriers to progress, and Obama has shown that he knows what is right, but he's not willing to confront systemic challenges head on to do what he knows should be done. In that sense, he's a brilliant guy and a great leader for a movement (as we saw during the campaign) but he's not a leader when it comes to actually getting the job done

Perhaps we would have been better off with Obama remaining in the Senate as the leader of a strong American progressive movement, putting pressure on someone else who holds the Presidency. I say this because, now that he's in office, it's clear that he's not doing anything different than what you would get with someone like Hillary (for example), so wouldn't he be a more valuable force for change if he was still SENATOR Obama who commanded an army of supporters and activists united for real progress? Just a thought. Of course, if Obama had a little more testicular fortitude, he could still embody that movement while ALSO being President.

Obama would have been a much better President than Hillary Clinton. Don't forget that she shamefully voted for the war in Iraq, smfh......that vote brought her down in 2008.

With that being said, you are right for the most part. That last line you said especially is powerful, although it is very difficult to create change when there are so many crooks and gangsters in government, amongst Democrats and Republicans. I do feel he is better off being President than just being a Senator who is constantly agitating for change. As President, he has much more power than he did as Senator.....I doubt healthcare reform would have been passed if he was just begging Hillary Clinton for it. Keep in mind Hillary failed in helping Bill pass reform back in the 90s.

Some days, I wonder if Obama is afraid to create real change due to a possible assassination if he goes too far in doing so......something we should all at least be open about. The media hates to talk about it, but there is much talk the CIA and Lyndon B Johnson had JFK killed.

http://www.rense.com/general40/thewnk.htm

http://viewzone2.com/lbj/indexx.html

That may enter Obama's mind time to time, I know it would if I was him.

 

[kingblaze84]

http://www.truthaboutax.com/site/1515517/page/912645

Convicted Watergate burglar E. Howard Hunt makes deathbed confession

JFK was ordered killed by Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson.

The murder was carried out by operatives of the CIA, and all the usual suspects.

E. Howard Hunt arranged for this taped confession/expose' to be released following his own death.

The tape implicates George Bush Senior, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Baines Johnson, and a host of lessor criminals.

Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet

Monday, April 30, 2007

The "deathbed confession" audio tape in which former CIA agent and Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt admits he was approached to be part of a CIA assassination team to kill JFK was aired this weekend - an astounding development that has gone completely ignored by the establishment media. Saint John Hunt, son of E. Howard Hunt, appeared on the nationally syndicated Coast to Coast AM radio show on Saturday night to discuss the revelations contained in the tape.

Hunt said that his father had mailed cassette the tape to him alone in January 2004 and asked that it be released after his death. The tape was originally 20 minutes long but was edited down to four and a half minutes for the Coast to Coast broadcast. Hunt promises that the whole tape will be uploaded soon at his website.

Click here to listen to a clip of the tape.

E. Howard Hunt names numerous individuals with both direct and indirect CIA connections as having played a role in the assassination of Kennedy, while describing himself as a "bench warmer" in the plot. Saint John Hunt agreed that the use of this term indicates that Hunt was willing to play a larger role in the murder conspiracy had he been required.

Hunt alleges on the tape that then Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson was involved in the planning of the assassination and in the cover-up, stating that LBJ, "Had an almost maniacal urge to become president, he regarded JFK as an obstacle to achieving that."

 

[shootemwon]

Obama would have been a much better President than Hillary Clinton. Don't forget that she shamefully voted for the war in Iraq, smfh......that vote brought her down in 2008.

With that being said, you are right for the most part. That last line you said especially is powerful, although it is very difficult to create change when there are so many crooks and gangsters in government, amongst Democrats and Republicans. I do feel he is better off being President than just being a Senator who is constantly agitating for change. As President, he has much more power than he did as Senator.....I doubt healthcare reform would have been passed if he was just begging Hillary Clinton for it. Keep in mind Hillary failed in helping Bill pass reform back in the 90s.

Some days, I wonder if Obama is afraid to create real change due to a possible assassination if he goes too far in doing so......something we should all at least be open about. The media hates to talk about it, but there is much talk the CIA and Lyndon B Johnson had JFK killed.

http://www.rense.com/general40/thewnk.htm
http://viewzone2.com/lbj/indexx.html

That may enter Obama's mind time to time, I know it would if I was him.

Hillary would have passed the same garbage healthcare plan that Obama did. It isn't an accomplishment. It's garbage.

And I don't see your point about assassination. LBJ was a much more progressive president than Kennedy.

 

[kingblaze84]

Hillary would have passed the same garbage healthcare plan that Obama did. It isn't an accomplishment. It's garbage.

And I don't see your point about assassination. LBJ was a much more progressive president than Kennedy.

Why do you feel the healthcare plan is garbage? And my point about LBJ is not that he ACTUALLY assassinated JFK with CIA help, I'm just pointing out the reality Obama may think of how so many Presidents were assassinated by fellow Americans. Being progressive does not always mean one is without ruthlessness, Hitler was a socialist, and he considered himself progressive as well.

Hitler was part of the Nationalist SOCIALIST party, and had little problems with socializing businesses and welfare.