Better rapper vol. 37: KONY Edition: Nas or Notorious B.I.G.

[Bodhi]

Ready to Die=Illmatic

 

[5th Letter]

Both are genre defining albums and both are classics. It's not far fetched at all.

 

[TrueGodHS]

See, I gotta mention this shit.

I was on Twitter and saw this chick talking about Nas. I think Nas is the best rapper of all time mainstream wise and all that right? But shorty said "Nas in 1990-1992 influenced Pac, Big, Wu, Mobb, Jay, Pun, and etc..." which had me puzzled like "Nas only had like two verses known to man out at the time, how he influenced Pac when Pac was out before him? How he influenced Wu when Wu dropped their first album before Illmatic came out?"

She was tripping a little, although I do think Nas influenced and challenged Big a little bit. That shit blew my mind cause she said when Illmatic dropped it made niggas step their shit up, but I pointed out that Ready To Die and 36 Chambers were more popular and heralded albums, which is a fact for that period of time. She just said "Nas better at lyrics than all of them", which is true, but doesn't match her point. Shit was random at 2am lol

 

[Listencloser]

See, I gotta mention this shit.

I was on Twitter and saw this chick talking about Nas. I think Nas is the best rapper of all time mainstream wise and all that right? But shorty said "Nas in 1990-1992 influenced Pac, Big, Wu, Mobb, Jay, Pun, and etc..." which had me puzzled like "Nas only had like two verses known to man out at the time, how he influenced Pac when Pac was out before him? How he influenced Wu when Wu dropped their first album before Illmatic came out?"

She was tripping a little, although I do think Nas influenced and challenged Big a little bit. That shit blew my mind cause she said when Illmatic dropped it made niggas step their shit up, but I pointed out that Ready To Die and 36 Chambers were more popular and heralded albums, which is a fact for that period of time. She just said "Nas better at lyrics than all of them", which is true, but doesn't match her point. Shit was random at 2am lol

I'm sorry but shit is the truth. After Illmatic rappers were far more concerned with consistent multi-syllabled end rhymes and internal rhyme structures than before. Listen to Wu on 36 then the solo albums over the next years.

 

[TrueGodHS]

See, I gotta mention this shit.

I was on Twitter and saw this chick talking about Nas. I think Nas is the best rapper of all time mainstream wise and all that right? But shorty said "Nas in 1990-1992 influenced Pac, Big, Wu, Mobb, Jay, Pun, and etc..." which had me puzzled like "Nas only had like two verses known to man out at the time, how he influenced Pac when Pac was out before him? How he influenced Wu when Wu dropped their first album before Illmatic came out?"

She was tripping a little, although I do think Nas influenced and challenged Big a little bit. That shit blew my mind cause she said when Illmatic dropped it made niggas step their shit up, but I pointed out that Ready To Die and 36 Chambers were more popular and heralded albums, which is a fact for that period of time. She just said "Nas better at lyrics than all of them", which is true, but doesn't match her point. Shit was random at 2am lol

I'm sorry but shit is the truth. After Illmatic rappers were far more concerned with consistent multi-syllabled end rhymes and internal rhyme structures than before. Listen to Wu on 36 then the solo albums over the next years.

Can't say it's the truth. Nas did influence cats, but the Wu was already on some shit before. It doesn't help her argument that she ignored that Nas was influenced and a product of Rakim and Kool G Rap. I still say Nas is the best, but to say he was everybody's blueprint during 90-92 is off base.

 

[XVDoom]

After 20 years (to be more technical 23 years) in the game, Nas is still lyrically potent and sharp. His flow has yet to falter and lose a step and that's an uncanny feat. Jay's focus is more on the corporate side and lost some steps heading his way to Larry Holmes status. Big's death cut short the greatness he could have possessed but no telling what the future would've been if he was still alive.

 

[usmarin3]

After 20 years (to be more technical 23 years) in the game, Nas is still lyrically potent and sharp. His flow has yet to falter and lose a step and that's an uncanny feat. Jay's focus is more on the corporate side and lost some steps heading his way to Larry Holmes status. Big's death cut short the greatness he could have possessed but no telling what the future would've been if he was still alive.

Larry Homes status yet still selling out Vegas fights, when Nas couldn't even sell out a Vegas buffet. smh Rapping to them dusty hiphop heads and failing to make crossover records that actually crossover.

 

[Listencloser]

I'm comparing the music from 93-97

 

[Kalecrunch]

DJ Premier talks Nas and Biggie
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Funny story about Biggie naked eating chicken

 

[Undergroundraplegend]

DJ Premier talks Nas and Biggie
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Funny story about Biggie naked eating chicken

so this is the interview he said that.

 

[Kalecrunch]

Nas n Biggie together.
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[Disciplined InSight]

After 20 years (to be more technical 23 years) in the game, Nas is still lyrically potent and sharp. His flow has yet to falter and lose a step and that's an uncanny feat. Jay's focus is more on the corporate side and lost some steps heading his way to Larry Holmes status. Big's death cut short the greatness he could have possessed but no telling what the future would've been if he was still alive.

Larry Homes status yet still selling out Vegas fights, when Nas couldn't even sell out a Vegas buffet. smh Rapping to them dusty hiphop heads and failing to make crossover records that actually crossover.

Nas has made crossover records..been there and done that and still cares about those "dusty Hip Hop heads". Can you say the same for your idol?

We've been over this numerous times and you're still in denial...only fanboys like you bring that selling out shit when the truth cracks you across the jaw like that Cleveland bus driver.

Selling out Vegas fights doesn't equal the fact that Jay lyrically lost steps on his way to the flabby and sick.

 

[TheIraq]

I swear somebody is gonna make a Fat Boys vs Eric B & Rakim thread smh....................

 

[TheIraq]

How can you compare a nigga that died in his mid 20's to a nigga that has lived to see 40's and they would damn near be the same age??????????????

 

[Pervis]

if we're talking bout lyrics, nas was better back then... but when it comes to flow, delivery and mic presence, big was clearly superior. no one can argue with this. in 96 nas and jay were good but big was already legendary.

 

[blackrain]

There's a reason Biggie called himself and is still referred to as Frank White. I bet most fools on here don't even get the reference.

You say that like Frank White is some obscure reference. I swear sometimes younger fans act like some shit they discovered about older rappers is brand new sometimes lol

 

[Mr.LV]

if we're talking bout lyrics, nas was better back then... but when it comes to flow, delivery and mic presence, big was clearly superior. no one can argue with this. in 96 nas and jay were good but big was already legendary.

And it only took big a few years to reach that legendary status.

 

[5 Grand]

I voted for Nas. Big had The GOAT flow on the "One More Chance(remix)" but Nas was using that flow on "Life's a B!tch" which came out a full year earlier.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Back when Big was alive it was No debating who was King of NY

 

[Kalecrunch]

I voted for Nas. Big had The GOAT flow on the "One More Chance(remix)" but Nas was using that flow on "Life's a B!tch" which came out a full year earlier.

While BIG did borrow "money clothes and hos" from Nas' "clothes, bank rolls and hos" the flows are pretty different, subject matter, beat etc.