Better rapper Vol. 32: Ghostface or Jay-Z

[sully]

Ghost is my favourite, so i'm gonna vote him ahead of everybody. To me he IS the GOAT.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Well point 1 should be we not talking about Lupe but jay vs ghost and jay doesn't do that.

Point 2 on this same topic is that I never said it was gibberish, I said it doesn't make sense. Point 3...same topic, for the sake of discussion I've seen people nitpick Lupe for the same reason but claim to love Ghost.

-Lol @ JayZ doesn't do that. You must only be accustomed to the new JayZ. Have you not heard the dead president series? grammy family? beach chair? history? blue magic? etc. Actually when Lupe first came out, he reminded me of Jay a little bit. Even Jay himself said that's why he was trying to sign him. Lupe reminded JayZ of himself.

-It doesn't make sense to YOU, but it makes sense to Ghost and fans who can follow along and understand what's going on.

-Ghost has many styles, so you can nitpick Lupe's Mr. fantastic style and still fuck with Ghost with no hypocrisy.

 

[sully]

I dare anyone to find a rapper with more swag than Ghost

It's been pretty much over in terms of swag since 1999, when Apollo Kids came out.

That ice cream bar and the whole video was just a testament to how no one can fuck with him.

 

[CoolJoe]

3rd verse.....

 

[drsnappple]

I like Ghost music but Jay along with Nas, Pac, Rakim, etc are a handful of the mc's who are definite top 10 material. Ghost ain't nowhere near no top ten rapper, he ain't even the best mc in Wu, that goes to GZA.

Unless you're taking it back to the 80s, I don't see how you can name 10 emcees nicer than Ghost. Especially since Ghost has the longevity, the impact, and the quality music.

Post a Ghostface quotable right now off the top of your head, i bet you can't. The random gibberish the nigga spits ya'll call lyrics, nigga please. Ghost flow is dope, so is his delivery, and storytelling but the nigga don't be spitting lyrics like that. Plus damn near all the niggas albums are carbon copy of each album, just soul samples and storytelling.

Ghost has been off the "gibberish" lyrical style for over a decade now.

 

[rip.dilla]

For some strange reason, 'Tom Ford' been playing in my head for a minute . ..

LOL

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

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[THIRDSUPREME]

2:15
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[texasdaking88]

I would try and state a case why jay is better but seeing as how this is the IC aka the capital of jay z hate it wouldn't make a difference so I'm not even gonna try and waste my time

*Kanye shrug*

Yea bitch lay down.

Bruh you need to drop the homo slang

He's a faggot ..its well known on the ic streets

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Show me a track that Ghost has done that's matching up to what Jay did on Lyrical Exercise.

I'm talking flow, lyrics, delivery, concept, everything.

Lyrical Exercise


Beat the Clock


Their flows were pretty much equal.

Jay's lyrics were a little better.

Ghost's delivery was better and more dynamic throughout the song.

Neither concept was all that spectacular, but I'd give Jay an edge there.

Either way, the tracks were comparable in quality. The difference was, as a Jay fan Lyrical exercise was a track you felt was so good that it needed to be mentioned as something Ghost couldn't mess with. As a Ghost fan, Beat the Clock isn't even all that good of a Ghost track and it still shows that Ghost could hang with Jay in any area you wanted. But we can do this all day. Post a Jay track you think is top notch, and I'll post one of Ghost's that I think can match it. I bet you I can find tracks that are at least comparable to what Jay did. If it was flipped though, Ghost got tracks that Jay has nothing comparable to.

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

G. They told me I should come down cousin, but I flatly refused I aint dumb down nothin.
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[THIRDSUPREME]

Ghost lost...but the God is still the Wally Champ though Nah Mean.

 

[CoolJoe]

That song is not fucking with Lyrical Exercise....stop.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

That song is not fucking with Lyrical Exercise....stop.

22 Twos is a dope song and good concept. I can't even front on that. Forty Four Fours is a recycled concept and inferior to the original. I'm not even sure why you even post as a testament to him. Anyway, I'll give you 22 Twos. It's not that I don't think Ghost has better songs than that, but I don't think Ghost has a better concept than that one. I could post songs that I think were better, but it would be Apples and Oranges honestly and lyrical exercises like what Jay did in that song is an area where I'll freely admit he's better.

Aight, your turn though. Find me a song where Jay spits a story as good as Shakey Dog.

 

[usmarin3]

Ghost ain't even have the biggest impact out of his whole crew, yet he top 10. SMH

 

[CoolJoe]

I put 44 Fours cause it was dope, and it's obviously inferior, because 22 Two's is amazing.

And Ghost clearly has Jay on the storytelling, but

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Ghost ain't even have the biggest impact out of his whole crew, yet he top 10. SMH

Ghost is clearly the most prominent out of the Wu from a solo artist standpoint. Get out of here with that.

I put 44 Fours cause it was dope, and it's obviously inferior, because 22 Two's is amazing.

And Ghost clearly has Jay on the storytelling, but

Aight, we can agree Jay has Ghost when it comes to raw lyricism and Ghost has Jay when it comes to storytelling.

Aight what about delivery. It's been posted here before, but give me an instance where Jay spit as hard as Ghost did on Tony Montana

 

[CoolJoe]

Jay doesn't go "hard" on tracks in that type of way, but here's something along those lines

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

Last verse
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Nas drops the greatest verse in Hip Hop history and Ghost still manages to make niggas say damn.
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Jay wouldn't have been able to hold his own on any of these tracks the way these niggas was spittin.

 

[usmarin3]

Ghost ain't even have the biggest impact out of his whole crew, yet he top 10. SMH

Ghost is clearly the most prominent out of the Wu from a solo artist standpoint. Get out of here with that.

I put 44 Fours cause it was dope, and it's obviously inferior, because 22 Two's is amazing.

And Ghost clearly has Jay on the storytelling, but

Aight, we can agree Jay has Ghost when it comes to raw lyricism and Ghost has Jay when it comes to storytelling.

Aight what about delivery. It's been posted here before, but give me an instance where Jay spit as hard as Ghost did on Tony Montana

Ghost ain't even have the biggest impact out of his whole crew, yet he top 10. SMH

Ghost is clearly the most prominent out of the Wu from a solo artist standpoint. Get out of here with that.

I put 44 Fours cause it was dope, and it's obviously inferior, because 22 Two's is amazing.

And Ghost clearly has Jay on the storytelling, but

Aight, we can agree Jay has Ghost when it comes to raw lyricism and Ghost has Jay when it comes to storytelling.

Aight what about delivery. It's been posted here before, but give me an instance where Jay spit as hard as Ghost did on Tony Montana

Meth did in 4 albums what Ghost done in 10. GZA is easily the most talented mc in the crew too.