Better Rapper Vol. 100: Pusha T or Lupe Fiasco

[KneeGro_DuperMan]

Pusha got the better flow tho

 

[kingofkingz]

Not trying to take anything away from lupe but his music is boring to me

 

[_Goldie_]

Pusha got the better flow tho

I dont even fuck with Lupe like that, but get all the way the fuck outta here with that shit.

 

[mryounggun]

This isn't even close in my opinion. Push shits on Lupe as an artist.

How? Explain what makes Pusha a better "artist"

Sure. Pusha has a better ear for production, has better delivery, paints more vivid pictures when he's rapping about something specific has a better discography between his group work and his solo joint. It's pretty close if you just want to consider wordplay or putting words together, when you consider all things...it's not even close to me.

I'd be a hater if I said Lupe couldn't rap his ass off, lyrically. He's not my kind of artist. I need aggression in my artists. And I'm not referring to content.

 

[The Recipe]

The question is better rapper....that's Lupe no doubt about it.

Who do I enjoy and listen to more? Easily Pusha T

And in they primes Clipse Lord Willin & HHNF >>>>>>>> F&L & The Cool

Great point.

 

[spit_fiya]

Yeugh

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Another thing, Push is witty as fuck. It may not be as impressive to them Lupe boys as Lupe's unnecessary long words but it is to me. He's got the word play, charisma, flow and he's smart man. Again I kno' he's not rapping' about "profound" shit but he's def an intelligent rapper.

If we made categories, I'd guess Push would do better than Lupe

 

[vageneral08]

This is the ic where weird shit is accepted

 

[IceBergTaylor]

This isn't even close in my opinion. Push shits on Lupe as an artist.

How? Explain what makes Pusha a better "artist"

Sure. Pusha has a better ear for production, has better delivery, paints more vivid pictures when he's rapping about something specific has a better discography between his group work and his solo joint. It's pretty close if you just want to consider wordplay or putting words together, when you consider all things...it's not even close to me.

I'd be a hater if I said Lupe couldn't rap his ass off, lyrically. He's not my kind of artist. I need aggression in my artists. And I'm not referring to content.

When you use the word "artist" the overall discussion changes. Song structure, content, creativity and song writing goes into that... That is NOT and never been Pusha. Pusha couldn't make songs like


or



And thats not even the half of his war path

Pusha is a great lyricist but thats exactly where it stops. Pusha has been blessed to know (AND HAVE) Pharrell & the Neptunes and Ye behind him practically his entire career. I dont wanna hear that he has an "ear for production." Lu for large part of his career has used in-house producers. Bolded is just false.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

I wouldn't say Push been blessed to have the Neptunes. No one else wanted their rap beats at the time. Clipse were just as important to the Neptune's as the Tunes were to Clipse

 

[IceBergTaylor]

I wouldn't say Push been blessed to have the Neptunes. No one else wanted their rap beats at the time. Clipse were jut as important to the Neptune's as the Tunes were to Clipse

True

But I dont think anyone would have chosen Soundtrakk/Prolyfic over Neptunes even back in the late 90s early 2000s

 

[Qiv_Owan]

I think Jada vs Push is closer

Who can seriously rap better than lupe?

 

[_God_]

Pusha t is ass

 

[Tsotsi Cape Town]

I think Jada vs Push is closer

Who can seriously rap better than lupe?

Is it interesting tho? I don't wanna hear a nigga string together some long ass words and metaphor the shit outta a track about Japanese cartoons and comic books that don't relate to me smh

 

[bkkbully]

Technically and on paper Lupe is the better rapper.

But who do I listen to more? Push

Who's album am I anticipating? Push

 

[Qiv_Owan]

I think Jada vs Push is closer

Who can seriously rap better than lupe?

Is it interesting tho? I don't wanna hear a nigga string together some long ass words and metaphor the shit outta a track about Japanese cartoons and comic books that don't relate to me smh

Yes

I fucks with both heavy

You must haven't heard Lupe' s catalog thoroughly if T&Y was outta range for u

 

[IceBergTaylor]

I think Jada vs Push is closer

Who can seriously rap better than lupe?

Is it interesting tho? I don't wanna hear a nigga string together some long ass words and metaphor the shit outta a track about Japanese cartoons and comic books that don't relate to me smh

Yes

I fucks with both heavy

You must haven't heard Lupe' s catalog thoroughly if T&Y was outta range for u

typical anyone who makes comments like the bolded never really listened through Lupe's body of work

 

[_God_]

Lupe came up rappin wit stack bundles

 

[Like Water]

I think Jada vs Push is closer

Who can seriously rap better than lupe?

Is it interesting tho? I don't wanna hear a nigga string together some long ass words and metaphor the shit outta a track about Japanese cartoons and comic books that don't relate to me smh

Yes

I fucks with both heavy

You must haven't heard Lupe' s catalog thoroughly if T&Y was outta range for u

typical anyone who makes comments like the bolded never really listened through Lupe's body of work

Man, we're better off letting the shit go. Smh. It'd be different if niggas was just like, "Nah. I don't fuck wit Lupe. His shit ain't for me." , or if their reasoning was halfway logical, then no one would have an argument. A couple niggas I kick it wit are like that, and that's fine to me. Doesn't bother me in the least bit.

But niggas on here? On top of saying they don't fuck wit the shit, they'll go outta their way to discredit the dude's talent and skill, and 9/10 the shit that comes up be hyperbole or just blatantly false.

I'm starting to see the same thing happen with Kendrick, on a smaller level. Shit is crazy to me. Does he make wack shit from time to time? Fuck yeah. I'll be the first to condemn wack ass Lasers and the mediocrity that was F&L2. But anybody that shows they're trying to bring something different and positive to the genre usually ends up getting shitted on around here. *Kanye shrug*

 

[mike_tech]

Rapper: Pusha T

Lyricist: Lupe Fiasco

When you say rapper you gotta bring up things outside of music and the artist's range. Pusha is CEO/President of GOOD Music, had amazing albums with the Clipse, sold more records too and crafted his own lane as an artist without his brother into one of the most revered rappers on the mic. Add to that he's battled cats too and beat Lil Wayne. Lupe Fiasco is no slouch but as a total package I'd bet my chips on Pusha, Lupe is a lyrical messiah tho, shit they both are...

I hate seeing this stupid rapper vs lyricist shit. It seems like when you are a conscious rapper and somewhat positive you get the lyricist label. why the hell would you say pusha is not a lyricist? lupe and pusha both have different content in their music but they are both lyricist. A lyricist does not mean you have to spit conscious or backpack lyrics. Niggas did the same thing with jay and nas, its stupid to me.