T. Sanford
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DR. JEK;6161061 said:
That would be fuk up if he did that.
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That would be fuk up if he did that.
If we're asking who is the better MC, who is the more lyrical and more talented man on the mic? It's Jay. He's got bars for days and he does it like he's not even trying.
Who has the better discography? Jay. He has multiple albums worth of material. I've got playlists of Jay of up to 50-60 songs I'd much rather listen to than Kendrick's.
Who is the better artist? Jay. Until Kendrick makes something as great and inventive as "Act I: The Eternal Sunshine" and "Dimethyltryptamine," then he's not really seeing Jay ElecHanukkah on the artistry side of things. Kendrick is definitely an artist, but Jay's a great artist in the classical sense of the word. He's a great artist in the same sense that Basquiat was a great artist. He makes challenging, complex, deep, ingenious and introspective art.
Who is the lazier artist? Jay. I can't deny that. But Stanley Kubrick only made 9 feature length films over the span of 40 years. Is he any less of a genius for that? No. Terrence Malick has only made 6 since like the 70s, but he's no less of an artist. Woody Allen averages one movie every single year. He's more prolific, but so what? It's quality not quantity. You can't quantify art. It's not about sport statistics.
As for the "Control" joint, I thought Kendrick had a great verse, but the best lines on the whole song came from Jay:
You could check my name on the books
I Earth, Wind, and Fire’d the verse, then +Rained (reigned)+ on the hook
The legend of Dorothy Flowers proclaimed from the roof
The tale of magnificent king who came from the nooks
Of the wild magnolia, mother of many soldiers
We live by every single word she ever told us
Watch over your shoulders
And keep a tin of beans for when the weather turns the coldest
The Lord is our shepherd, so our cup runneth over
Put your trust in the Lord but tether your Chevy Nova
I’m spittin' this shit for closure
And God is my witness, so you could get it from Hova
For all you magicians that’s fidgeting with the cobra
I’m silent as a rock, ‘cause I came from a rock
That’s why I came with a rock, then signed my name on the Roc
Draw a line around some Earth, then put my name on the plot
Cause I endured a lot of pain for everything that I got
The eyelashes like umbrellas when it rains from the heart
And the tissue is like an angel kissin you in the dark
You go from blind sight to hindsight, passion of the Christ
Right, to baskin' in the limelight, it take time to get your mind right
Jay Electricity, PBS mysteries
In a lofty place, tangling with Satan over history
You can’t say shit to me - Alhamdulillah
It’s strictly by faith that we made it this far
And for the record, I think Kendrick Lamar is a great rapper and I like his music a lot, but I am going with Jay all the way on this one.
Who has the better discography? Jay. He has multiple albums worth of material. I've got playlists of Jay of up to 50-60 songs I'd much rather listen to than Kendrick's.
Who is the better artist? Jay. Until Kendrick makes something as great and inventive as "Act I: The Eternal Sunshine" and "Dimethyltryptamine," then he's not really seeing Jay ElecHanukkah on the artistry side of things. Kendrick is definitely an artist, but Jay's a great artist in the classical sense of the word. He's a great artist in the same sense that Basquiat was a great artist. He makes challenging, complex, deep, ingenious and introspective art.
Who is the lazier artist? Jay. I can't deny that. But Stanley Kubrick only made 9 feature length films over the span of 40 years. Is he any less of a genius for that? No. Terrence Malick has only made 6 since like the 70s, but he's no less of an artist. Woody Allen averages one movie every single year. He's more prolific, but so what? It's quality not quantity. You can't quantify art. It's not about sport statistics.
As for the "Control" joint, I thought Kendrick had a great verse, but the best lines on the whole song came from Jay:
You could check my name on the books
I Earth, Wind, and Fire’d the verse, then +Rained (reigned)+ on the hook
The legend of Dorothy Flowers proclaimed from the roof
The tale of magnificent king who came from the nooks
Of the wild magnolia, mother of many soldiers
We live by every single word she ever told us
Watch over your shoulders
And keep a tin of beans for when the weather turns the coldest
The Lord is our shepherd, so our cup runneth over
Put your trust in the Lord but tether your Chevy Nova
I’m spittin' this shit for closure
And God is my witness, so you could get it from Hova
For all you magicians that’s fidgeting with the cobra
I’m silent as a rock, ‘cause I came from a rock
That’s why I came with a rock, then signed my name on the Roc
Draw a line around some Earth, then put my name on the plot
Cause I endured a lot of pain for everything that I got
The eyelashes like umbrellas when it rains from the heart
And the tissue is like an angel kissin you in the dark
You go from blind sight to hindsight, passion of the Christ
Right, to baskin' in the limelight, it take time to get your mind right
Jay Electricity, PBS mysteries
In a lofty place, tangling with Satan over history
You can’t say shit to me - Alhamdulillah
It’s strictly by faith that we made it this far
And for the record, I think Kendrick Lamar is a great rapper and I like his music a lot, but I am going with Jay all the way on this one.
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BrilliantRapscallion
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Lyric for lyric man, Electronica > Kendrick but yet it's very close, at least more so than others make it out to be. As far as execution goes, they both tailor their music to suit different things. Kendrick likes to paint pictures while telling stories, Jay offers insight into life overall, MC's who are like Jay aren't good for the entertainment factor as people really often tune out people who kick the knowledge, it's sad but true. Kendrick is explosive and he brings an energy to his shit that draws people in, yet he's enlightening about it all at the same time. However as far as actual lyrical content it really is J.E by a slim margin, when it comes to being the better rapper, you give it to the person with the better content, discography in that regard is irrelevant. That said, J.E needs to put more shit out, and this is coming from a HUGE Kendrick stan.
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CashmoneyDux
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You already know who I'm picking. Jay Electronica is on some other shit when he raps. He lowkey killed his verse on Control without knowing about that Kendrick Lamar verse. And for the people who say Kendrick can't rap, he is the forerunner of the current lyricist movement. I will admit, my favorite rapper is lazy(or caught up in some illuminati shit, who knows) but if/when he releases that album, its going to be amazing.
And for the people that say he doesnt have an album, I don't want to hear yall ever say Andre 3000 is the GOAT.
and Ill leave this youtube collab with Kendrick and Jay Elect here
And for the people that say he doesnt have an album, I don't want to hear yall ever say Andre 3000 is the GOAT.
and Ill leave this youtube collab with Kendrick and Jay Elect here
JDSTAYWITIT
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xxCivicxx;6163551 said:Jay Elec not even close. Kendrick babbles on the mic
Why niggas gotta always take shit too far? Lol
CashmoneyDux;6163717 said:You already know who I'm picking. Jay Electronica is on some other shit when he raps. He lowkey killed his verse on Control without knowing about that Kendrick Lamar verse. And for the people who say Kendrick can't rap, he is the forerunner of the current lyricist movement. I will admit, my favorite rapper is lazy(or caught up in some illuminati shit, who knows) but if/when he releases that album, its going to be amazing.
And for the people that say he doesnt have an album, I don't want to hear yall ever say Andre 3000 is the GOAT.
and Ill leave this youtube collab with Kendrick and Jay Elect here
There's a difference between having zero albums and not having a solo album.
JDSTAYWITIT.;6164091 said:xxCivicxx;6163551 said:Jay Elec not even close. Kendrick babbles on the mic
Why niggas gotta always take shit too far? Lol
He definitely has snapped on a couple songs but I feel like as a rapper that's statistically bound to happen at least a couple times. Mostly all of his features have been trash tho. Please prove me wrong, I wanna like dude more, I really do
Swiffness!
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This thread should've been closed when Control was released. Totally serious here.
DarthRozay
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xxCivicxx;6165415 said:JDSTAYWITIT.;6164091 said:xxCivicxx;6163551 said:Jay Elec not even close. Kendrick babbles on the mic
Why niggas gotta always take shit too far? Lol
He definitely has snapped on a couple songs but I feel like as a rapper that's statistically bound to happen at least a couple times. Mostly all of his features have been trash tho. Please prove me wrong, I wanna like dude more, I really do
who judges any artist off of their guest features though?
"Yo Michael Jackson is wack. I just heard his feature on Janet's new album"
"Have you heard Thriller though? or Bad?"
"Nah just that one feature"
Easily Kendrick it's not even close. Kendrick is entertaining while Jay Electrionica is boring Kendrick's lyrics, hooks, flow, delivery are far superior to Jay Electronica who lacks being able to do hooks or ability to rhyme with depth but be entertaining at the same time. There's no way Jay is gonna be able to ever sell platinum like Kendrick did or get anywhere near to those sales G.K.M.C album did. Jay will never be able to sell good numbers or have hit's.
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T. Sanford
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"I got alot of family you got alot of fans/that's why my people got my back like the Verizon man"
dope shit
Im sorry but Kdot bars cant fuck with Jay E
dope shit
Im sorry but Kdot bars cant fuck with Jay E
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CashmoneyDux
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Exhibit C is my Shit but that's not his best song IMO. I liked Exhibit A/B better.
