Better Producer on Jay-Z's 'The Blueprint' Album: Kanye West vs Just Blaze

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TheGOAT;8606099 said:
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Built 4 cuban linx;8605956 said:
I understand sampling in hip hop and shit but that takeover beat is pretty much the exact same as the doors beat. kanye barely changed anything. his other work is better

Thats easy to say when u have the finished product (sample beat) all wrapped up and neatly packaged for u

But that shit was very fitting for one of the last memorable rap disses of hip hop all time

Wish I could find out how long he had the beat on deck before giving it to jay, who decided it would be used as a nas diss (kanye being a nas fan) , and why yeezy is on the writing credits

To be fair it was only half Nas diss. The other half was aimed at Prodigy, its just nobody ever mentions that because outside of @supergangster nobody gives a fuck about Prodigy

True but point remains.

Ether and takeover always come up in the endless debate
 
Go figure;8606147 said:
TheGOAT;8606099 said:
Go figure;8606009 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;8605956 said:
I understand sampling in hip hop and shit but that takeover beat is pretty much the exact same as the doors beat. kanye barely changed anything. his other work is better

Thats easy to say when u have the finished product (sample beat) all wrapped up and neatly packaged for u

But that shit was very fitting for one of the last memorable rap disses of hip hop all time

Wish I could find out how long he had the beat on deck before giving it to jay, who decided it would be used as a nas diss (kanye being a nas fan) , and why yeezy is on the writing credits

To be fair it was only half Nas diss. The other half was aimed at Prodigy, its just nobody ever mentions that because outside of @supergangster nobody gives a fuck about Prodigy

True but point remains.

Ether and takeover always come up in the endless debate

There is no debate

Nas murdered Jay

Ether >>>>>> takeover
 
Song cry my favorite song on the album..buuuuut

Never change, heart of the city, takeover, even izzo (niggas sleep on it cause it was the overplayed single but the beat still tough.) I gotta with kanye here..this was tough though
 
damn im trying to rank the beats from what i think are the best and after

Song Cry - Just Blaze

Never Change - Kanye West

i cant rank them really

Momma Loves Me - Bink

Girls, Girls, Girls - Just Blaze

Takeover - Kanye West

U Don't Know - Just Blaze

The Ruler's Back - Bink

Izzo - Kanye West

All I Need - Bink

Heart of the City - Kanye West

Lyrical Exercise - Just Blaze

Girls, Girls, Girls (Part 2)

Renegade - Eminem

Hola' Hovito - Timbaland

Jigga That Nigga -Trackmasters

im a go back and change the list up
 
KneeGro_DuperMan;8606161 said:
@"Lab Baby" Just made that Dynasty Intro

Derp. My vote goes to Just then.

EDIT: The beat I was thinking about was You, Me, Him and Her. I remember reading the credits to the album and thinking to myself, "Damn, Bink made my favorite beats on this album, but nobody talks about him among the great producers". For some reason I still have it in my head that Bink made Dynasty and Just made 1900 Hustler. I just assume that Bink made all that shit.
 
not only did Just Blaze come from a DJing background, but he was also an audio engineer before he blew as a producer. You can hear it in his beats, and the sonic differences between his drums, samples, dynamincs to Ye's are very obvious. But what a great production team for one album. Bink! , Just , & Yeezy , (Em too) but damn.
 
Once I hear "I'm not trying to be nosey babe, to trying to give some advice..." it's zoning time. I think it's impressive that two relatively unknown producers were able to create an album with an obvious, non lyrical theme so effortlessly. Sidebar, Jigga can always use more Ski Beats. Those three would been murder.
 
so kayne had the better production but blaze had the better songs?

nawl, kayne better.

Blaze lives a real life and geeks out. Blaze use to play SOCOM hard body. He aint got time to be diggin in the crates like Ye when he got comic books and sneakers to cop.

Kayne mainstream so its automatic hate. he's a weirdo too, but still.

you dont know, girls girls girls, and song cry cant compete with izzo, Heart Of The City, TAKEOVER!!!

 

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