Better Olympian: Usain Bolt vs Michael Phelps

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Shizlansky;9290545 said:
The Lonious Monk;9290539 said:
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The Lonious Monk;9290021 said:
ineedpussy;9289894 said:
Beta;9288873 said:
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but back to my earlier statement. until he races against blacks he aint shit. thats like playing basketball in the 40's and being bill russell against crap white boys

That doesn't make any sense. It's not like there is a separate swimming league of blacks that Phelps is ducking. Blacks simply aren't elite swimmers.

The medal count argument needs to stop. Phelps is great, but he's competing in a sport that has a million different events. He still may be the best Olympian ever, but it would be because of how dominant he has been across four sets of games not because he has a bloated number of medals.

He has the most medals in a single olympic.

So what. If you're a wrestler or a boxer, you have to go through several grueling matches and only get one medal. Say you dominate in that sport for four different Olympics, that's an unheard of feat, but you'll still only have 4 medals. Is Phelps automatically better than that athlete just because Phelps' sport is set up in a way that will allow him to win 5 or 6 medals ever Olympics? I mean Phelps could have a competed in 6 events each Olympics and won gold in half and lost the other half badly. He still would have had the most Gold medals in history. Would you still say he's the greatest Olympian?

We ain't talking about boxing or wrestling. We talking about running vs swimming

And that changes my point how? It's not possible for a sprinter to win as many medals as a short distance swimmer either. Even if Bolt added the 400 and 4x400 to his resume, he'd still only have 15 medals assuming he still won every race.
 
The Lonious Monk;9290021 said:
ineedpussy;9289894 said:
Beta;9288873 said:

but back to my earlier statement. until he races against blacks he aint shit. thats like playing basketball in the 40's and being bill russell against crap white boys

That doesn't make any sense. It's not like there is a separate swimming league of blacks that Phelps is ducking. Blacks simply aren't elite swimmers.

The medal count argument needs to stop. Phelps is great, but he's competing in a sport that has a million different events. He still may be the best Olympian ever, but it would be because of how dominant he has been across four sets of games not because he has a bloated number of medals.

so we back in segregation? anyway how is a white boy gone be the greatest if he dont play agianst brothers? i gave you an example and you still didnt comprehend. so heres another and if you dont comprehend then im done. ok...their a white boy who lives in "aint no niggaZ round here city and aint no niggaZ round here state". so the white boy is an all american in basketball doing everybody. mr. aint no niggaZ round here state. cool.....he gets a scholly to a d-1. lets say somewhere in the acc. now this white boy who was on the top and the best of the best who always started is now relegated to a bench warmer. why.....cause niggaZ was better than the comp he played against.

i really hope youre trollin. but one true example is their was a white boy in my state and was cold but the sports talk radio i listened to was talkin about this and one of the commentators was like yeah he is good but he....and he said not to be racist(lol) said he probably aint that good cause he doesn't play against black people. and this is coming from a white dude. hell why you think the white mlb didnt want to play a "regular" game against the negro league? or when they did and lost they would say they werent playing hard enough(the white player). man please tell me youre trolling cause you sound and probably are ignorant as fuck.

@The Lonious Monk
 
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ineedpussy;9292498 said:
The Lonious Monk;9290021 said:
ineedpussy;9289894 said:
Beta;9288873 said:

but back to my earlier statement. until he races against blacks he aint shit. thats like playing basketball in the 40's and being bill russell against crap white boys

That doesn't make any sense. It's not like there is a separate swimming league of blacks that Phelps is ducking. Blacks simply aren't elite swimmers.

The medal count argument needs to stop. Phelps is great, but he's competing in a sport that has a million different events. He still may be the best Olympian ever, but it would be because of how dominant he has been across four sets of games not because he has a bloated number of medals.

so we back in segregation? anyway how is a white boy gone be the greatest if he dont play agianst brothers? i gave you an example and you still didnt comprehend. so heres another and if you dont comprehend then im done. ok...their a white boy who lives in "aint no niggaZ round here city and aint no niggaZ round here state". so the white boy is an all american in basketball doing everybody. mr. aint no niggaZ round here state. cool.....he gets a scholly to a d-1. lets say somewhere in the acc. now this white boy who was on the top and the best of the best who always started is now relegated to a bench warmer. why.....cause niggaZ was better than the comp he played against.

i really hope youre trollin. but one true example is their was a white boy in my state and was cold but the sports talk radio i listened to was talkin about this and one of the commentators was like yeah he is good but he....and he said not to be racist(lol) said he probably aint that good cause he doesn't play against black people. and this is coming from a white dude. hell why you think the white mlb didnt want to play a "regular" game against the negro league? or when they did and lost they would say they werent playing hard enough(the white player). man please tell me youre trolling cause you sound and probably are ignorant as fuck.

@The Lonious Monk

I'm not sure if you're joking or really being dense. We're not back in segregation. That's the whole point. To get to the Olympics, Phelps had to come out on top among all the swimmers in America. That includes the black swimmers. There is no separate league for black swimmers. And once you get to the Olympic level, whether or not you had blacks in your city doesn't matter anymore because you had to beat the best from all over the country to get there. Blacks compete in swimming, but, for the most part, the best swimmers are not black. The chick that won Gold this year was the first African American to win a Gold in swimming. That is all that needs to be said. Blacks aren't some kinda unbeatable force in swimming that Phelps is ducking, so the argument you're making doesn't make sense.

 
Beta;9292846 said:
What if usain was white? Lol

Nigga would be everwhere

dalyricalbandit;9293336 said:
Beta;9292846 said:
What if usain was white? Lol

Heads would blow up here

Especially if he was american shiiiit

Sportscenter would talk about his cac ass all year round

TBE in everything

Theyd say usain>>>>ali & jordan

God knows they already try to overhype the current cac athletes
 
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You realize if you have 2 working legs you can run right? The pool of competition is probably greater in running events.
 
CeLLaR-DooR;9293962 said:
My Maa and aunt have a pic with Usain
The Lonious Monk;9293630 said:
gns;9293342 said:
Beta;9292846 said:
What if usain was white? Lol

Nigga would be everwhere

He isn't everywhere now? Can you name another athlete that's not even from America that gets as much shine in America as Bolt?

The cacs at work love Bolt.

He's the only black male athlete that has commentators pre-emptively shooting critics down for commenting on his confidence. Most black athletes get shitted on all day for being cocky. It's just something about Bolt that is universally embraced.

My homeboy went to the Olympics and he said whenever Bolt came out on to the track, you would have thought he represented everybody's country the way people reacted.
 
The Lonious Monk;9293005 said:
ineedpussy;9292498 said:
The Lonious Monk;9290021 said:
ineedpussy;9289894 said:
Beta;9288873 said:

but back to my earlier statement. until he races against blacks he aint shit. thats like playing basketball in the 40's and being bill russell against crap white boys

That doesn't make any sense. It's not like there is a separate swimming league of blacks that Phelps is ducking. Blacks simply aren't elite swimmers.

The medal count argument needs to stop. Phelps is great, but he's competing in a sport that has a million different events. He still may be the best Olympian ever, but it would be because of how dominant he has been across four sets of games not because he has a bloated number of medals.

so we back in segregation? anyway how is a white boy gone be the greatest if he dont play agianst brothers? i gave you an example and you still didnt comprehend. so heres another and if you dont comprehend then im done. ok...their a white boy who lives in "aint no niggaZ round here city and aint no niggaZ round here state". so the white boy is an all american in basketball doing everybody. mr. aint no niggaZ round here state. cool.....he gets a scholly to a d-1. lets say somewhere in the acc. now this white boy who was on the top and the best of the best who always started is now relegated to a bench warmer. why.....cause niggaZ was better than the comp he played against.

i really hope youre trollin. but one true example is their was a white boy in my state and was cold but the sports talk radio i listened to was talkin about this and one of the commentators was like yeah he is good but he....and he said not to be racist(lol) said he probably aint that good cause he doesn't play against black people. and this is coming from a white dude. hell why you think the white mlb didnt want to play a "regular" game against the negro league? or when they did and lost they would say they werent playing hard enough(the white player). man please tell me youre trolling cause you sound and probably are ignorant as fuck.

@The Lonious Monk

I'm not sure if you're joking or really being dense. We're not back in segregation. That's the whole point. To get to the Olympics, Phelps had to come out on top among all the swimmers in America. That includes the black swimmers. There is no separate league for black swimmers. And once you get to the Olympic level, whether or not you had blacks in your city doesn't matter anymore because you had to beat the best from all over the country to get there. Blacks compete in swimming, but, for the most part, the best swimmers are not black. The chick that won Gold this year was the first African American to win a Gold in swimming. That is all that needs to be said. Blacks aren't some kinda unbeatable force in swimming that Phelps is ducking, so the argument you're making doesn't make sense.

bro most hoods in america dont have swimming pools. hell that movie with terrance howard showed you niggaZ would dominate swimming easily like any other sport. hell hitler said a nigga aint faster than a white boy and what happened. they said a nigga aint as good as a white man in baseball. what happened? basketball, football, etc. why cant your peanut brain comprehend something so simple? you probably want to be white
 
ineedpussy;9296475 said:
Peace_79;9292668 said:
What makes you think basketball is equivalent to swimming?

what makes you think not going against blacks is making you great?

Black people are genetically superior to virtually all other races on a physical level. This includes everything from increased melanin to combat ultraviolet rays to better muscle composition (fast twitch etc) - allowing us to be the most proficient sprinters (and in many cases) the best long distance runners in the world.

We also have the best looking women on the planet too ... but I digress.

But this notion that our genetic advantage would allow us to waltz into any competitive space and immediately dominate is absurd.

I assumed you were just being dense due to the hubristic and reductionist nature of your argument.

You sounding retarded out here, fam.

I'm black and I'm proud...

But that doesent mean that white people only succeed due to us "not trying hard enough"...

There are less people that swim than there are people that run. But, Michael Phelps is an All Time Great Athlete ...

Period.


 
I'm gonna go with the guy with the most gold medals. You asked for better Olympian not better athlete, so all I care about in this argument is how many gold medals they have, and Michael Phelps has more..... than anyone..... in history. I don't care if swimming had more events, doesn't change the fact he still had to compete and won. Shouldn't have been a debate in the first place.
 
Peace_79;9297028 said:
ineedpussy;9296475 said:
Peace_79;9292668 said:
What makes you think basketball is equivalent to swimming?

what makes you think not going against blacks is making you great?

Black people are genetically superior to virtually all other races on a physical level. This includes everything from increased melanin to combat ultraviolet rays to better muscle composition (fast twitch etc) - allowing us to be the most proficient sprinters (and in many cases) the best long distance runners in the world.

We also have the best looking women on the planet too ... but I digress.

But this notion that our genetic advantage would allow us to waltz into any competitive space and immediately dominate is absurd.

I assumed you were just being dense due to the hubristic and reductionist nature of your argument.

You sounding retarded out here, fam.

I'm black and I'm proud...

But that doesent mean that white people only succeed due to us "not trying hard enough"...

There are less people that swim than there are people that run. But, Michael Phelps is an All Time Great Athlete ...

Period.

nobody said anything about waltz. i know that a nigga aint comin off the streets and beatin him but my point still stands. he still aint better until he gets better comp....which is brothers.
 

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