Better Lyricist: Lupe Fiasco vs Nas

[DOPEdweebz]

nas is a rappers rapper. hes a street poet whose flow/style is untouched.

lupe fiasco takes that same premise and flips it 20x.

if we talking STRICTLY lyrics, lupe takes shit to the NEXT level; triple entendres. wild metaphors, uncompromising flows, ridiculous subject matter...you name it.

nas is easier to relate to and thats a talent in itself. he can humanize is lyrics better than lupe.

I purposely made this a thread about being a better lyricist, not rapper to see if people can separate the two and be non bias, but alot of niggas. struggling with the concept. They don't want anybody to be better at Nas at one thing. Just cuz Steph Curry is a better shooter than Jordan, doesn't mean you think Curry us better than the GOAT overall. Yall be alright once you grasp that concept.

At the same time I still respect those who picked Nas, b4 Lupe, Nas was my undisputed lyricist, along with a prime Slim, Andre 3000, Black Thought, and so on, but I'm open minded enough to think someone can be better at one element or aspect without being overall better also.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Lupe's sheer talent has niggas in their feelings and Im a Nas fan myself

 

[power_wisdom]

It's funny how both were in the same space by their 5 albums. They both had back to back classic, with their first 2 albums. Then two disappointing. Then a classic that brought them back, in good graces with their hip hop fans after many written off. Both in my top 5.

 

[LUClEN]

FNL2 wasn't disappointing to me

Just not as good as FNL

 

[power_wisdom]

FNL2 wasn't disappointing to me

Just not as good as FNL

It was as good as I Am. Both ok to good albums, just not what the fans expected.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

nas is a rappers rapper. hes a street poet whose flow/style is untouched.

lupe fiasco takes that same premise and flips it 20x.

if we talking STRICTLY lyrics, lupe takes shit to the NEXT level; triple entendres. wild metaphors, uncompromising flows, ridiculous subject matter...you name it.

nas is easier to relate to and thats a talent in itself. he can humanize is lyrics better than lupe.

I purposely made this a thread about being a better lyricist, not rapper to see if people can separate the two and be non bias, but alot of niggas. struggling with the concept. They don't want anybody to be better at Nas at one thing. Just cuz Steph Curry is a better shooter than Jordan, doesn't mean you think Curry us better than the GOAT overall. Yall be alright once you grasp that concept.

At the same time I still respect those who picked Nas, b4 Lupe, Nas was my undisputed lyricist, along with a prime Slim, Andre 3000, Black Thought, and so on, but I'm open minded enough to think someone can be better at one element or aspect without being overall better also.

So we talking about lyrics but your boy mentioning subject matter and flow? I like Nas ability to weave a complex rap without being too complex. That's lyrics to me. Anything else is a nice beat and a slick rhyme.

 

[ohhhla]

Overall they're tied because Lupe got Nas since he came out but Lupe doesn't have anything on Esco Nas.

Niggas need to grow as an Artist. That's what Lupe failed to do and which is why Kendrick is better than him.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Overall they're tied because Lupe got Nas since he came out but Lupe doesn't have anything on Esco Nas.

Niggas need to grow as an Artist. That's what Lupe failed to do and which is why Kendrick is better than him.

Better lyricist not artist.

 

[power_wisdom]

nas is a rappers rapper. hes a street poet whose flow/style is untouched.

lupe fiasco takes that same premise and flips it 20x.

if we talking STRICTLY lyrics, lupe takes shit to the NEXT level; triple entendres. wild metaphors, uncompromising flows, ridiculous subject matter...you name it.

nas is easier to relate to and thats a talent in itself. he can humanize is lyrics better than lupe.

I purposely made this a thread about being a better lyricist, not rapper to see if people can separate the two and be non bias, but alot of niggas. struggling with the concept. They don't want anybody to be better at Nas at one thing. Just cuz Steph Curry is a better shooter than Jordan, doesn't mean you think Curry us better than the GOAT overall. Yall be alright once you grasp that concept.

At the same time I still respect those who picked Nas, b4 Lupe, Nas was my undisputed lyricist, along with a prime Slim, Andre 3000, Black Thought, and so on, but I'm open minded enough to think someone can be better at one element or aspect without being overall better also.

So we talking about lyrics but your boy mentioning subject matter and flow? I like Nas ability to weave a complex rap without being too complex. That's lyrics to me. Anything else is a nice beat and a slick rhyme.

subject matter is a part of lyricism.

i mentioned uncompromising flows because just like nas, lupe doesnt compromise his lyrics for sake of flow.

Believe it or not he does. He said it himself. Songs like Madonna, Show must go on, & Hood now are some examples. Not to say the songs wasn't dope, they just wasn't as lyrical as other songs he have. Pretty much all MCs do it with a few exceptions.

 

[power_wisdom]

You right, I misread what you was saying. My bad.

 

[LUClEN]

Kendrick two albums deep... How has he shown more growth than Lupe?

 

[Listencloser]

"Death followed him, before it swallowed him whole,

It was signs he should of read that was inside his soul,

Niggas light dutches to him now, So long,

Miss a mutha fucka but still life goes on,

Hope I'm rich on my last day, clutching some ass,

Nigga said he came and went, got enough when he passed,

An old man laying dead on my bed, with some young shit,

Screaming out "freedom" when I slumped her chest,

After that she'll , be a bitch with a hex,

Every nigga she sex, will be the next put to rest."

Lupe is just not there yet. He doesn't carry enough scars to hold lyrical weight with Nas.

 

[5 Grand]

I've been a Nas Stan since high school in 1991 when Live @ the Barbeque was out.

I've seen Nas go from Nasty Nas to Escobar to God's Son. He's easily the nicest MC in the industry as we speak.

I remember Lupe when he first came out. he was on Late registration. And I had Food and Liquor on my hard drive at one point but I erased it. didn't see what the big deal was.

Anyway, I just listened to the Mural that somebody posted. Reminds me of Canibus's Poet Laureate ll, you know that song where he rambles on for 15 minutes about nothing. But I will admit that Lupe's voice is easier to listen to than Canibus.