Better athletes...NBA or NFL?

[LUClEN]

NFL

they use a lot more steroids

 

[Focal Point]

I think it's a little harder to go from basketball to football while vice versa you see more often

Actually it the opposite at the professional level.

Ya, I think that was a typo. Not being able to go to the NBA from the NFL isn't an athleticism issue though. Shooting/dribbling are skills. Most NBA players probably can't switch over to golf, tennis, or baseball. Doesn't mean those sports require more athleticism.

It was a typo, I rushed through that thanks

 

[GorillaWitAttitude]

NBA because some of the NFL players aren't really healthy. This is what I was told in ROTC when I was in highschool. Plus I was showed a video on the NFL injuries and etc real sad. One dude was obese. So, it takes being more athletic and skill being in the NBA.

 

[bow to royalty]

I'm still not understanding how people are picking the NBA. The only advantage even the NBA people are giving them is endurance, which I'll give to them. But the NFL has a speed, agility (IMO), and HUGE strength advantage. They even shit all over the NBA in jumping. I dunno if anyone has done a 40 inch standing vertical at the NBA combine in a decade. Olympic motto....Faster, Higher, Stronger. That's NFL, NFL, NFL.

I think the NBA nut huggin Lebron for so long has given a warped view of his athleticism. But he's once in a lifetime NBA athleticism, once ever few years in the NFL. Still elite, but not how the NBA portrays him

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

its actually easier to go from the basketball to football. outside of africa the majority of pro and college stars been balling since they were kids. you gotta establish a jumper and handles and post moves for years. whereas the majority of football players dont start playing till at least middle school and many didn't start till high school.

Dwight freeney is a local CT product and he played soccer freshman year as a goalie (parents from the islands). 3 Years of football and dude caught on and the rest is history. Antoher i guy i great up with from church didn't start football till sophomore year and got a full ride to penn state and played recently with the redskins and had stints with the dolphins and broncos as well previously. There are a few amount of africans that go to the nba and started playing at 14.

 

[bow to royalty]

its actually easier to go from the basketball to football. outside of africa the majority of pro and college stars been balling since they were kids. you gotta establish a jumper and handles and post moves for years. whereas the majority of football players dont start playing till at least middle school and many didn't start till high school.

Dwight freeney is a local CT product and he played soccer freshman year as a goalie (parents from the islands). 3 Years of football and dude caught on and the rest is history. Antoher i guy i great up with from church didn't start football till sophomore year and got a full ride to penn state and played recently with the redskins and had stints with the dolphins and broncos as well previously. There are a few amount of africans that go to the nba and started playing at 14.

I think people agree with you on that. But we're talking athleticism. Not sport specific skill sets. Like you're a hockey fan. A dude may be a great athlete, but he wouldn't be able to dive right into hockey because he can't handle the puck, or skate well enough. But that's not a knock on his athleticism.

 

[Knives Amilli]

Clearly basketball requires more coordination and stamina.

But NFL players are fucking walking masses of muscle who are extremely core strong and are more conditioned to have greater fast twitch muscle. Those traits typically make for better athletes.

 

[luke1733]

NBA has more athletes or you'd have to be a better athlete and have more diversification. Besides a runner back and wild receiver and a quarterback's arm and sight the rest of the NFL is smarts and just strength (For the majority of linemen in the NFL there is only one rule: hit the guy 2 inches in front of you as hard as you can**where's the extremes of athleticism in that???).

I know i went hard with that last line, but to balance it out --the NFL players work hard as hell to get there and stay there. I ain't even mentioning all those damn plays. They are athletes you don't want to mess with, but I still stand by my point on what is seen in the game. There only about 4 athletes on the field showcasing actual footwork skills, jumping skills, speed, accuracy, hands, spin moves; as for the other guys they just hitting a dude or chasing someone. In the NBA (do I need to list what they're doing), shakes, studder stepping/side step (each play/not once or twice a game like in the NFL), dunking, numerous ways to pass, dribbling, cross-over/between legs, speed, post moves, pivot moves, jump shot, 3 point shooting, driving to the basket, aerial moves, endurance to keep it up 48 minutes, stealing the ball, running backwards, stopping on a dime and exploding forward on each play, spinning, man there's more in the NBA and it takes more. That's why in high school you have to try out for the basketball team, but football you can walk on. Football (not the NFL) can find a use for you even if you ain't an athlete, basketball (unless you have a lot of height) you have to have skills to be playing in the game.

 

[luke1733]

To make another point: Line up the best from the NBA and make them play football against the best of the NFL and besides probably some NBA players bones being broke and jaws shattered the NBA players could most likely hold their own BETTER than if you took the best NFL players and put them on the court with the best NBA players.

 

[dwade206]

NBA players play more, take less breaks in between ball possession, and display an array of different moves while on the court. NBA players, easily.

 

[bow to royalty]

To make another point: Line up the best from the NBA and make them play football against the best of the NFL and besides probably some NBA players bones being broke and jaws shattered the NBA players could most likely hold their own BETTER than if you took the best NFL players and put them on the court with the best NBA players.

You and other people keep talking about their sport specific skills. NBA players can't hang with baseball players or golfers in their sport. That's a reflection of sports specific skills...not athleticism.

And NO...the NBA players would not fare better in football vs NFL players, than NFL players would vs NBA players in basketball. Both teams would lose terribly at the other sport. But the NBA players would get shut out in the NFL. Fuck the NBA players gonna do in the trenches vs the best linemen the NFL has to offer? Who's gonna stop Suh, Watt, Gerald McCoy, Mario Williams, Mathis, and pretty much every other DL from crushing the QB/RB every play? And what are the NBA LB's gonna do when they gotta meet Peterson, Lynch, Richardson, Charles in the hole? The NBA squad would have their spirits broken on the first drive.

 

[bow to royalty]

NBA has more athletes or you'd have to be a better athlete and have more diversification. Besides a runner back and wild receiver and a quarterback's arm and sight the rest of the NFL is smarts and just strength (For the majority of linemen in the NFL there is only one rule: hit the guy 2 inches in front of you as hard as you can**where's the extremes of athleticism in that???).

I know i went hard with that last line, but to balance it out --the NFL players work hard as hell to get there and stay there. I ain't even mentioning all those damn plays. They are athletes you don't want to mess with, but I still stand by my point on what is seen in the game. There only about 4 athletes on the field showcasing actual footwork skills, jumping skills, speed, accuracy, hands, spin moves; as for the other guys they just hitting a dude or chasing someone. In the NBA (do I need to list what they're doing), shakes, studder stepping/side step (each play/not once or twice a game like in the NFL), dunking, numerous ways to pass, dribbling, cross-over/between legs, speed, post moves, pivot moves, jump shot, 3 point shooting, driving to the basket, aerial moves, endurance to keep it up 48 minutes, stealing the ball, running backwards, stopping on a dime and exploding forward on each play, spinning, man there's more in the NBA and it takes more. That's why in high school you have to try out for the basketball team, but football you can walk on. Football (not the NFL) can find a use for you even if you ain't an athlete, basketball (unless you have a lot of height) you have to have skills to be playing in the game.

2 or 3 WR's, 1 or 2 RB's, 1 or 2 TE's, possibly a QB depending on his mobility, 2 corners, maybe a nickel, 2 safeties, 3 or 4 linebackers. 2 DE's....how did you only count to 4? The whole defense showcases their athetlicism. The only exceptions may be the DT's.

 

[nujerz84]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

 

[bow to royalty]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

They don't hear you though. I'd take the top 10 NFL athletes over the top 10 NBA athletes in Olympic style competition. NFL players are bigger, faster, and stronger. NBA players can run longer...that seems to be the only advantage.

 

[nycest_1]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

you probably missed the part where it was said kevin durant could perform at high levels for a longer period of time though

 

[bow to royalty]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

you probably missed the part where it was said kevin durant could perform at high levels for a longer period of time though

Haha, this again. So Endurance>>>Strength + speed + agility + jumping ability? Hell no.

There's a reason Lebron's been a physical phenomenon in the NBA for over a decade, but players like Vernon Davis are just another dude in the NFL. That elite level of athleticism is more common in the NFL. The most elusive (agile) NBA players aren't as elusive as Reggie Bush/Shady McCoy/Darren Sproles/etc. The fastest NBA players aren't as fast as Demps/CJ2K/Jamaal Charles/etc.

Like I said before, Lebron is an athletic beast, but his athleticism is magnified by going against less athletic competition. The fact that he has been a never before seen god of athleticism in the NBA, shows that it's a less athletic league. In the NFL people wouldn't be in awe of his athleticism for 10 years, because there are more like him.

 

[nycest_1]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

you probably missed the part where it was said kevin durant could perform at high levels for a longer period of time though

Haha, this again. So Endurance>>>Strength + speed + agility + jumping ability? Hell no.

There's a reason Lebron's been a physical phenomenon in the NBA for over a decade, but players like Vernon Davis are just another dude in the NFL. That elite level of athleticism is more common in the NFL. The most elusive (agile) NBA players aren't as elusive as Reggie Bush/Shady McCoy/Darren Sproles/etc. The fastest NBA players aren't as fast as Demps/CJ2K/Jamaal Charles/etc.

Like I said before, Lebron is an athletic beast, but his athleticism is magnified by going against less athletic competition. The fact that he has been a never before seen god of athleticism in the NBA, shows that it's a less athletic league. In the NFL people wouldn't be in awe of his athleticism for 10 years, because there are more like him.

if you are a good athlete for 3 years then crippled for the rest of your life, how are you a better athlete than a guy who does it for 10 years and goes on to live healthy?

you are making an argument that the nfl has better athletes because they can do short burst exercises they train for. but nba athletes train for long periods of exercise.

to you a person who can lift 350lbs for 3 reps is stronger than a guy who can lift 300 lbs for 10 reps.

that doesn't make any sense

 

[nycest_1]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

you probably missed the part where it was said kevin durant could perform at high levels for a longer period of time though

Haha, this again. So Endurance>>>Strength + speed + agility + jumping ability? Hell no.

There's a reason Lebron's been a physical phenomenon in the NBA for over a decade, but players like Vernon Davis are just another dude in the NFL. That elite level of athleticism is more common in the NFL. The most elusive (agile) NBA players aren't as elusive as Reggie Bush/Shady McCoy/Darren Sproles/etc. The fastest NBA players aren't as fast as Demps/CJ2K/Jamaal Charles/etc.

Like I said before, Lebron is an athletic beast, but his athleticism is magnified by going against less athletic competition. The fact that he has been a never before seen god of athleticism in the NBA, shows that it's a less athletic league. In the NFL people wouldn't be in awe of his athleticism for 10 years, because there are more like him.

and the nba has strength +speed + agility + jumping ability AND endurance.

you just made my argument for me

 

[nujerz84]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

you probably missed the part where it was said kevin durant could perform at high levels for a longer period of time though

i like to see Kevin Durant wear a flack jacket in 90 plus degree weather for 60 minutes (as opposed to 48) or in winter storms/rainy weather then tell me he will perform at high level for a longer period. Lebron is better athlete than Durant you saw what happen in Game 1 in the finals. Football players play in high heat conditions every year throw in the uniforms (if its a dark color uniform) that adds more heat.

Or perhaps you missed the point the guy in that clips was not in the NFL or played at big time football college school. I gurantee Durant would quit first simply due to him getting thrown and knocked on his ass every play.

 

[bow to royalty]

So everyone missed the post of a Offensive Lineman CFL player agility and lateral quickness shitting on Kevin Durant who could run by or get by him?

you probably missed the part where it was said kevin durant could perform at high levels for a longer period of time though

Haha, this again. So Endurance>>>Strength + speed + agility + jumping ability? Hell no.

There's a reason Lebron's been a physical phenomenon in the NBA for over a decade, but players like Vernon Davis are just another dude in the NFL. That elite level of athleticism is more common in the NFL. The most elusive (agile) NBA players aren't as elusive as Reggie Bush/Shady McCoy/Darren Sproles/etc. The fastest NBA players aren't as fast as Demps/CJ2K/Jamaal Charles/etc.

Like I said before, Lebron is an athletic beast, but his athleticism is magnified by going against less athletic competition. The fact that he has been a never before seen god of athleticism in the NBA, shows that it's a less athletic league. In the NFL people wouldn't be in awe of his athleticism for 10 years, because there are more like him.

and the nba has strength +speed + agility + jumping ability AND endurance.

you just made my argument for me

NBA players are weaker, slower, less agile, and can't jump as high. Their only advantage is endurance.