Best rap producing cities?

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Roster Player #99;6936905 said:
sully;6934255 said:
sr_the_freshman;6933311 said:
New York. Then it's a toss up between LA and VA off the strength of Timbo, Missy, Pharrel ect.

And Detriot be havin' gems.

Chicago's been going pretty strong too, if you don't project Chief Keef as the face of the Chi-town hip hop scene. Lupe, Common, Kanye, No ID, Twista, BJ the Chicago Rapper, Rhymefest, Crucial Conflict, etc.

production my nigga, production. I dont think Ye can save Chicago on his own. I say VA Beach just off Pharrell and Co. IMO the greatest all around production team.

I'd say The D because im biased of course.

and I said that Premo shit to ruffle feathers....but when you start talkin crazy about NY running things in the 80s with production....Ima have to disagree. IMO rap was still in its infancy in the 80s. Hadnt branched out yet to the point where there were other places to even compete in this discussion.

Well, Run DMC, Whodini, UTFO, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5, Eric B and Rakim, Boogie Down Productions, Big Daddy Kane, MC Shan, Roxanne Shante, The Juice Crew, Public Enemy, De La Soul, Stetsasonic are just a few groups that put out classic LPs in the 80s that stand the test of time.

You say rap was in its infancy.

Well, if rap was in its infancy, why (or how) did Run DMC go triple platinum in 1986?

Why did MTV decide to have a show dedicated to rap?

How did Russell Simmons organize three Fresh Fest Tours in 1984, 85 and 86?

Rap started in the 70s. You could say that it was in its infancy in the early 80s. But by 1988 Run DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 were on their 4th and 5th albums. There were groups in other regions like Miami, LA and even The Bay Area. Also Philly, but New York was ruling Hip Hop until the early 90s when Dre and Snoop came up with a new sound and other regions started to participate. But I wouldn't say that the West took over in the 90s, I'd just say they got a seat at the table.
 
TheEyeronic1;6936967 said:
Elrawd;6932813 said:
Virginia is a state

no shit.

i said Virginia for a reason.

we got timbaland, teddy riley, missy, the neptunes, nottz, b!nk, lex luger AND more.

these folks changed urban music forever. its bigger than a city. its virginia, nigga.

But they're all from different cities

so your argument is invalid
 
5 Grand;6936963 said:
Roster Player #99;6936905 said:
sully;6934255 said:
sr_the_freshman;6933311 said:
New York. Then it's a toss up between LA and VA off the strength of Timbo, Missy, Pharrel ect.

And Detriot be havin' gems.

Chicago's been going pretty strong too, if you don't project Chief Keef as the face of the Chi-town hip hop scene. Lupe, Common, Kanye, No ID, Twista, BJ the Chicago Rapper, Rhymefest, Crucial Conflict, etc.

production my nigga, production. I dont think Ye can save Chicago on his own. I say VA Beach just off Pharrell and Co. IMO the greatest all around production team.

I'd say The D because im biased of course.

and I said that Premo shit to ruffle feathers....but when you start talkin crazy about NY running things in the 80s with production....Ima have to disagree. IMO rap was still in its infancy in the 80s. Hadnt branched out yet to the point where there were other places to even compete in this discussion.

Well, Run DMC, Whodini, UTFO, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5, Eric B and Rakim, Boogie Down Productions, Big Daddy Kane, MC Shan, Roxanne Shante, The Juice Crew, Public Enemy, De La Soul, Stetsasonic are just a few groups that put out classic LPs in the 80s that stand the test of time.

You say rap was in its infancy.

Well, if rap was in its infancy, why (or how) did Run DMC go triple platinum in 1986?

Why did MTV decide to have a show dedicated to rap?

How did Russell Simmons organize three Fresh Fest Tours in 1984, 85 and 86?

Rap started in the 70s. You could say that it was in its infancy in the early 80s. But by 1988 Run DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 were on their 4th and 5th albums. There were groups in other regions like Miami, LA and even The Bay Area. Also Philly, but New York was ruling Hip Hop until the early 90s when Dre and Snoop came up with a new sound and other regions started to participate. But I wouldn't say that the West took over in the 90s, I'd just say they got a seat at the table.

I see your point. But to me, most of what you said further proves my theory. And to clarify, when i say rap was in its infant stages, i mean to the notion that it was more centralized than it is now. Yea you had Def Jam acts goin platinum+ in the late 80s but it was still regionally marginal, especially in terms of who was making rap music at the time. There were groups all around the country im sure, but were they popular enough to be heard to even be in the conversation "who had the best rap production?" at that time? I say, little if any at all. Ice-T was out in the 80s and he was popular, NWA, 80s, they were popular. But I dont even think at that time they had enough material coming from their respective areas to even ask if the west coast, compton or LA had the best production of the 80s. Just the amount and quality alone from NY dwarfs anything put out back then because, it was mostly NY that was heard anywhere. So in that respect, yea NY ran shit. But there was no formidable competition til the 90s.
 
nawledge_god;6936960 said:
Roster Player #99;6936905 said:
sully;6934255 said:
sr_the_freshman;6933311 said:
New York. Then it's a toss up between LA and VA off the strength of Timbo, Missy, Pharrel ect.

And Detriot be havin' gems.

Chicago's been going pretty strong too, if you don't project Chief Keef as the face of the Chi-town hip hop scene. Lupe, Common, Kanye, No ID, Twista, BJ the Chicago Rapper, Rhymefest, Crucial Conflict, etc.



production my nigga, production. I dont think Ye can save Chicago on his own. I say VA Beach just off Pharrell and Co. IMO the greatest all around production team.

I'd say The D because im biased of course
.

and I said that Premo shit to ruffle feathers....but when you start talkin crazy about NY running things in the 80s with production....Ima have to disagree. IMO rap was still in its infancy in the 80s. Hadnt branched out yet to the point where there were other places to even compete in this discussion.

No ID, Kanye Soundtrakk & Traxster >>> Black Milk And J.Dilla ...Get Mad

Laughable, at most.
 
nawledge_god;6936955 said:
dwade206;6933379 said:
My reasons why...

NY - Premo, yes NY claims Premo, Bomb Squad, Marley Marl, And Rza

LA - Madlib and Dre

The D - Dilla

VA - Timbaland

....in order

Madlib From Oxnard Dre From Compton Quik Too Daz And Battlecat From Long Beach...None Of Thse Are In Los Angeles

No doubt. Then I meant California
 
Roster Player #99;6937090 said:
nawledge_god;6936960 said:
Roster Player #99;6936905 said:
sully;6934255 said:
sr_the_freshman;6933311 said:
New York. Then it's a toss up between LA and VA off the strength of Timbo, Missy, Pharrel ect.

And Detriot be havin' gems.

Chicago's been going pretty strong too, if you don't project Chief Keef as the face of the Chi-town hip hop scene. Lupe, Common, Kanye, No ID, Twista, BJ the Chicago Rapper, Rhymefest, Crucial Conflict, etc.



production my nigga, production. I dont think Ye can save Chicago on his own. I say VA Beach just off Pharrell and Co. IMO the greatest all around production team.

I'd say The D because im biased of course
.

and I said that Premo shit to ruffle feathers....but when you start talkin crazy about NY running things in the 80s with production....Ima have to disagree. IMO rap was still in its infancy in the 80s. Hadnt branched out yet to the point where there were other places to even compete in this discussion.

No ID, Kanye Soundtrakk & Traxster >>> Black Milk And J.Dilla ...Get Mad

Laughable, at most.

Keep Laughing Its True

 
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