Because people continue to lie, I must tell the TRUTH.........

[Chike]

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[The True Flesh]

Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.

And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.

Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 9:4-6

Great thread, Brother!

They don't want the truth.......but they will have no choice in the end

There is no opposition to the truth!!!!!!!

Praise Yeshua!!!

PEACE

 

[Chike]

lol @ you guys using a Roman devil as your source. Are you really that retarded?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Still no proof huh? More christians claimin theres proof and relyin on reiligious texts as backup, alright brother good job.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.

And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.

Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 9:4-6

Great thread, Brother!

They don't want the truth.......but they will have no choice in the end

There is no opposition to the truth!!!!!!!

Praise Yeshua!!!

PEACE

"Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein." Hosea 14:9

My brother in Christ True Flesh! Good to see you my friend. I see the hand of God residing on you mightly. Excellent scripture. The truth will always triumph! God bless you brother.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Still no proof huh? More christians claimin theres proof and relyin on reiligious texts as backup, alright brother good job.

"Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed." Isaiah 6:9-10

 

[ThaChozenWun]

"Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed." Isaiah 6:9-10

So you think im blind and deaf toward god and think I need to open my heart and accept him before its too late and the Devil has me in clutches?

 

[Chike]

"Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein." Hosea 14:9

My brother in Christ True Flesh! Good to see you my friend. I see the hand of God residing on you mightly. Excellent scripture. The truth will always triumph! God bless you brother.

Way to ignore my posts.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

So you think im blind and deaf toward god and think I need to open my heart and accept him before its too late and the Devil has me in clutches?

Your already in the clutches of the enemy. Until you receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will continue to be a pawn of the enemy.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Way to ignore my posts.

You didn't even read my original posts. Your talking about "roman devils". Your going to remain ignorant. But hey thats your choice.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

You know if I ever convert back to bein a Christian RUGOIN ill make sure i put you down as a referral when I die.

 

[Chike]

You didn't even read my original posts. Your talking about "roman devils". Your going to remain ignorant. But hey thats your choice.

First of all, What say you about that Demonology book that your precious Kin James wrote?

And secondly...

CORNELIUS TACITUS (55 - 120 A.D.) Tacitus was a 1st and 2nd century Roman historian who lived through
the reigns of over half a dozen Roman emperors. Considered one of the greatest historians of ancient Rome,
Tacitus verifies the Biblical account of Jesus' execution at the hands of Pontius Pilate who governed Judea from
26-36 A.D. during the reign of Tiberius.

That Roman Devil... the only damn guy in your whole post. You got short term memory loss or something? Stop smoking crack.

 

[DarcSkies777]

So you PROVE something true with a Bible full of FABLES and LIES?

WOw.

 

[TX_Made713]

so because an article you found on the internet says all thats truth, you believe it?

i could easily find a site that counters that which would be just as credible

 

[SL8Rok]

So you PROVE something true with a Bible full of FABLES and LIES?

WOw.

Prove the bible is full of fables and lies.

 

[Poach]

Prove the bible is full of fables and lies.

Prove that it is full of fact and actual accounts.

 

[SL8Rok]

Prove that it is full of fact and actual accounts.

I believe the burden of proof rest on you.

 

[Poach]

k, ile answer your question.

Fact-

Due to the Council of Nicaea

There had to be an agreement of whether or not Jesus was to be recognized as Gods' TRUE SON.

The Bible if was written and composed of actual account writings should have simply already outlined that YES Jesus is Divine.

-It wasnt-

So because all of these bishops, deacans, and priests. Oh and let me point out this is durring a time of when Crusades were quite popular and MOST Bishops, Deacans, and Priests were infact WARLOARDS who owned a sizable amount of land within the Roman empire. Decided or decreed or all thought that hey, Yes lets make Jesus the undenounced Son of God, as he is Devine and a Prophet.

If the Bible hadnt been edited or revised or even summarized in some spots i would agree that the bible is true. as most of the accounts in it are. BUT because of the hand of man, WHO wrote the bible through the will of GOD the bible is not all fact and actual accounts.

And no I dont question my faith but i sure as shit dont believe every fucking thing i see or 'ahem' dont see for that matter.

 

[SL8Rok]

k, ile answer your question.

Fact-

Due to the Council of Nicaea

There had to be an agreement of whether or not Jesus was to be recognized as Gods' TRUE SON.

The Bible if was written and composed of actual account writings should have simply already outlined that YES Jesus is Divine.

-It wasnt-

So because all of these bishops, deacans, and priests. Oh and let me point out this is durring a time of when Crusades were quite popular and MOST Bishops, Deacans, and Priests were infact WARLOARDS who owned a sizable amount of land within the Roman empire. Decided or decreed or all thought that hey, Yes lets make Jesus the undenounced Son of God, as he is Devine and a Prophet.

If the Bible hadnt been edited or revised or even summarized in some spots i would agree that the bible is true. as most of the accounts in it are. BUT because of the hand of man, WHO wrote the bible through the will of GOD the bible is not all fact and actual accounts.

And no I dont question my faith but i sure as shit dont believe every fucking thing i see or 'ahem' dont see for that matter.

1. Fact - The council of nicea (325 ad) DID NOT convene to address the canon of scripture. The muratorian fragment (170 AD) is the oldest known list of scripture.The council did convene to agree that Jesus was the Son of God, however this is sort sided. There was a heretical movement within christianity started by Arius, called Arianism which denied the divinity of Jesus. Christians had already acknowledged the divinity of Jesus, as do the scriptures (John 1:1, 1 John 5:7).

2. Well actually the crusades first started in the 11th century. The crusades would have been impossible in 325ad seeing as how Islam didn't start until the 7th century. So this would be more in the realm of fiction not fact.

3. You see the great thing about people who make the assertion that the bible was edited cannot show by whom and what was there before. the fact of the matter is that of all the books from antiquity the bible is the most well sourced. There are in fact 47,000 originals of the bible. If we applied the same obtuse standard to ancient historical works then we should completely disregard ancient history. So because God chose to use man to pen the bible that means the bible isn't true? Thats pretty faulty logic and I'd love you to qualify that logic with reasonable arguments.

4. Well then you have no faith. The bible says that faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. so if you don't believe things simply because you can't see them, you are without faith.

 

[Poach]

1. Fact - The council of nicea (325 ad) DID NOT convene to address the canon of scripture. The muratorian fragment (170 AD) is the oldest known list of scripture.The council did convene to agree that Jesus was the Son of God, however this is sort sided. There was a heretical movement within christianity started by Arius, called Arianism which denied the divinity of Jesus. Christians had already acknowledged the divinity of Jesus, as do the scriptures (John 1:1, 1 John 5:7).

2. Well actually the crusades first started in the 11th century. The crusades would have been impossible in 325ad seeing as how Islam didn't start until the 7th century. So this would be more in the realm of fiction not fact.

3. You see the great thing about people who make the assertion that the bible was edited cannot show by whom and what was there before. the fact of the matter is that of all the books from antiquity the bible is the most well sourced. There are in fact 47,000 originals of the bible. If we applied the same obtuse standard to ancient historical works then we should completely disregard ancient history. So because God chose to use man to pen the bible that means the bible isn't true? Thats pretty faulty logic and I'd love you to qualify that logic with reasonable arguments.

4. Well then you have no faith. The bible says that faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. so if you don't believe things simply because you can't see them, you are without faith.

okay ille take this with the points you put down.

1. Yes you are correct about the council of nicaea... i Think you may have misread what i wrote or you just like to agree with what i said with quotes.

2. Typo my bad, i had meant to write conquests... and yes they took place... all around the time of Late Antiquity... The Eastern Roman Empire was sure as shit warring in the NAME OF GOD.

3. I did not say that it is gods wrong to have chosen man to pen his work. what i did say was that down the line the works were changed and its true there are accounts of monks who first started translating the bible from one language to another putting thier own emphasis in certain parts. We can use a couple more big names just like your Arius, King James, Joseph Smith, aaaannnd pretty much every other spin off religion from the Roman catholic church.

4.you are in no position to question my faith, as i dont question yours.

The simple point i was trying to make was that because man has in fact had opportunity to put his 2cents into the bible he has.