Dont know why we traded this guy away for Granderson(who has sucked big time). The boy has been awesome this season. Granderson better step up in the playoffs.
Here is the link to the whole article, Very long STATS filled article, but very informative.
Think you know baseball? No, you don’t
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Baseball is wack.....takes mad long for exciting plays to happen...
If I turn to a basketball game for like 10 mins, 8 times out of 10 u will see @ least one great play
Football too....but baseball???? The only exciting moment in baseball would be like a 3-2 count ,bases loaded and the team @ bat is down by like 3 and a big time slugger happens to be @ bat in the bottom of the 9th
If I turn to a basketball game for like 10 mins, 8 times out of 10 u will see @ least one great play
Football too....but baseball???? The only exciting moment in baseball would be like a 3-2 count ,bases loaded and the team @ bat is down by like 3 and a big time slugger happens to be @ bat in the bottom of the 9th
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Why arent ya niggas talkin about Troy Tulowitzki??? that nigga is ON FIRE shit is ridiculous I think hes hit 14 Hr's in his last 16 games (including 2 more HR's today) i dont remember the RBI count, and those numbers may not be exactly right but I know its something around there.
Shit is crazy though, Im especially mad as fuck cus I tried to trade for him in the Fantasy Baseball league while he was hurt but the nigga wouldnt give him up (but he's had him on the bench this whole time, even right now he has him on the bench)
Shit is crazy though, Im especially mad as fuck cus I tried to trade for him in the Fantasy Baseball league while he was hurt but the nigga wouldnt give him up (but he's had him on the bench this whole time, even right now he has him on the bench)
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millz_flybridge;1307768 said:
Fuck The Rockies,Tolowitzki, Ubaldo etc. I'm trippin off my White Sox folding down the stretch to the Twins and Manny hiitin his first homerun and getting his first RBI last night .
On the real though dude on a mean little streak , the Rockies normally put a run together in late September. But I think it's a little too late for Tolowitzki to make that MVP run I think Votto got that sold up plus the Reds about to win that division.
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toheeb27;1307809 said:
lol I was smh that noone had mentioned it yet, I was gonna give it its own thread but fuck it...
Even though most of this shit is happening in Coors field, hes still a SS and they normally dont have that kind of power..hes at 26 Home Runs right now and im gonna go and assume that hes leading in HR's for shortstops.
-JB-;1307810 said:
I hate the Rockies my damn self, I dont fuck with White Sox either though lol. I figured the Twins had that division sewn up and I didnt like the Manny Ramirez pickup anyway. It didnt hurt, but he wasnt doin shit all year so I didnt expect him to start up when he got there...
C/S Votto havin that NL MVP, but Carlos Gonzalez (Rockies outfielder) was on his heels for a little while cus he was keeping the Rockies afloat while Tulowitzki was injured, hes leading the NL in batting average, 4th in HR's, and 2nd in RBI's.
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millz_flybridge;1307882 said:
I didn't forget about Cargo as they call dude on ESPN yeah he in that MVP discussion too no doubt, Pujols more than likely will finish 2nd then Cargo.
I see why Yankees fan, go figure. I wasn't expectin Manny to come back to the AL and be the Boston Manny but at least drive in more than 1 run.
The Yankees should beat whoever they face in the AL playoffs , I don't think the Twins or Rangers can beat them in a 5 or 7 game series. They just gotta worry about Price and them Rays
Who you got for Al Cy Young Price or C.C. ?
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toheeb27;1308239 said:
King Felix huh? You know how that shit goes though their record is trash but dude from K.C. did win the Cy Young last year but he didn't have to go up against two 20 or more win pitchers from playoff teams. Ichiro need to get outta Seattle he too loyal dude deserve to be on a winner.
I don't know the damn Twins came through the Chi this week and put the dagger in my Sox with that sweep now they only a couple games behind NYY and TB for best record in the AL it might be Texas with how the records lookin right now.
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Dick Shitman
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millz_flybridge;1307882 said:
check gonzalez home-away splits and get back to me
votto for mvp
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Dick Shitman
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/adam-dunn-hall-of-fame/
In his post about Jason Heyward yesterday, Matthew Carruth referred to Adam Dunn as a “maybe” Hall-of-Famer. When I read that, I assumed Matthew had taken leave of his senses, or was making some kind of joke that I didn’t quite get. After all, Dunn has a career +27.7 WAR through age 30, and the established bubble for HOF players is currently about +60 WAR. It is highly unlikely that Dunn will be able to double his value in the second half of his career, especially given his skillset.
But, the more I thought about it, the more I realized Matthew was right – Adam Dunn very well may end up in Cooperstown if he can stay healthy.
Career HR totals are definitely one of the magic numbers that get voters attention. The guaranteed entry barrier used to be 500 before the offensive explosion of the 1990s. Only 25 guys in history have ever hit 500+ home runs, and almost all of them are or will be in the Hall of Fame. Now that non-superstars like Gary Sheffield and Rafael Palmeiro have joined the list, its exclusivity has been diminished, but it’s still the kind of number that will draw notice, especially for a guy who has never been linked to PEDs.
Well, Adam Dunn is only 149 home runs away from 500, and he’s averaged 35 HR per 600 PA in his career so far. Barring injury or a very early collapse of his skills, 500 homers seems like a very easy target for Dunn. That’s averaging just under 30 homers a year for the next five seasons, and the last time he hit fewer than 30 long balls in a year was 2003. His bat may begin to slow down, but he’s got enough power that he can lose some and still crank out that piece with relative ease.
Given just how bad defensively he was in the outfield, however, he’ll almost certainly be the worst player ever to reach that milestone. Even with the power, his offensive production has always been just good, not great, and he’s one of the worst defenders and baserunners of his generation. In terms of actual value, there’s almost no way Dunn will deserve to go into the Hall, but I’m not sure that will matter.
If he hits 500 homers, and is presumed to have done so while “clean”, there will be support for his candidacy, especially if he’s going up against other guys who have tested positive or been linked to steroids. If he gets anywhere near 600 and keeps away from scandal, he’s a mortal lock, and it’s not impossible to see Dunn launching 250 homers over the remainder of his career.
So, I have to conclude that Matthew is right – Adam Dunn is a “maybe” Hall of Famer. If he stays healthy for the next 5 to 10 years, he’s got a pretty decent chance at putting up the kinds of numbers that voters will take notice of. He won’t deserve to go in based on total value, but the sexy numbers just may be enough. He does the things that voters like, and the aspects where he fails, there is little emphasis. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but there’s a decent chance that my kids might walk past Dunn’s plaque in Cooperstown some day.
basically adam dunn will be a HOFer bc his home run totals. anybody who has watched him knows he's not HOF material. your thoughts?
In his post about Jason Heyward yesterday, Matthew Carruth referred to Adam Dunn as a “maybe” Hall-of-Famer. When I read that, I assumed Matthew had taken leave of his senses, or was making some kind of joke that I didn’t quite get. After all, Dunn has a career +27.7 WAR through age 30, and the established bubble for HOF players is currently about +60 WAR. It is highly unlikely that Dunn will be able to double his value in the second half of his career, especially given his skillset.
But, the more I thought about it, the more I realized Matthew was right – Adam Dunn very well may end up in Cooperstown if he can stay healthy.
Career HR totals are definitely one of the magic numbers that get voters attention. The guaranteed entry barrier used to be 500 before the offensive explosion of the 1990s. Only 25 guys in history have ever hit 500+ home runs, and almost all of them are or will be in the Hall of Fame. Now that non-superstars like Gary Sheffield and Rafael Palmeiro have joined the list, its exclusivity has been diminished, but it’s still the kind of number that will draw notice, especially for a guy who has never been linked to PEDs.
Well, Adam Dunn is only 149 home runs away from 500, and he’s averaged 35 HR per 600 PA in his career so far. Barring injury or a very early collapse of his skills, 500 homers seems like a very easy target for Dunn. That’s averaging just under 30 homers a year for the next five seasons, and the last time he hit fewer than 30 long balls in a year was 2003. His bat may begin to slow down, but he’s got enough power that he can lose some and still crank out that piece with relative ease.
Given just how bad defensively he was in the outfield, however, he’ll almost certainly be the worst player ever to reach that milestone. Even with the power, his offensive production has always been just good, not great, and he’s one of the worst defenders and baserunners of his generation. In terms of actual value, there’s almost no way Dunn will deserve to go into the Hall, but I’m not sure that will matter.
If he hits 500 homers, and is presumed to have done so while “clean”, there will be support for his candidacy, especially if he’s going up against other guys who have tested positive or been linked to steroids. If he gets anywhere near 600 and keeps away from scandal, he’s a mortal lock, and it’s not impossible to see Dunn launching 250 homers over the remainder of his career.
So, I have to conclude that Matthew is right – Adam Dunn is a “maybe” Hall of Famer. If he stays healthy for the next 5 to 10 years, he’s got a pretty decent chance at putting up the kinds of numbers that voters will take notice of. He won’t deserve to go in based on total value, but the sexy numbers just may be enough. He does the things that voters like, and the aspects where he fails, there is little emphasis. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but there’s a decent chance that my kids might walk past Dunn’s plaque in Cooperstown some day.
basically adam dunn will be a HOFer bc his home run totals. anybody who has watched him knows he's not HOF material. your thoughts?
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Shouts to the twins for completely crushin and destroyin the white sox swept em right out the way 11 game lead
and most importantly winnin me 250 bucks + 7 free meals from portillos
and most importantly winnin me 250 bucks + 7 free meals from portillos
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Chi-Town Bully
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Tommy Billfiger;1323006 said:Shouts to the twins for completely crushin and destroyin the white sox swept em right out the way 11 game lead
and most importantly winnin me 250 bucks + 7 free meals from portillos
Its been over for the Sox for weeks
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how bout those Reds?
i dont know. ive never seen a national team play except in the world series.
cincy better than the tribe right?
go reds.
i dont know. ive never seen a national team play except in the world series.
cincy better than the tribe right?
go reds.
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KeepOnPushing
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<<<<< Said the Phillies Would Catch the Braves a Long Time ago in the Cheap Seats
i remember some dude in here was trying to argue with me a few months back about how the Braves would hold the lead and phillies wouldnt make it and braves going to the world series...
When the Phillies had injuries at the time (jimmy rollins , Chase utley, Brad Lidge) and they weren't clicking yet...told him Braves have a Playoff team and nothing more that team aint nothing Special the braves got...
i remember some dude in here was trying to argue with me a few months back about how the Braves would hold the lead and phillies wouldnt make it and braves going to the world series...
When the Phillies had injuries at the time (jimmy rollins , Chase utley, Brad Lidge) and they weren't clicking yet...told him Braves have a Playoff team and nothing more that team aint nothing Special the braves got...
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KeepOnPushing
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Dick Shitman;1317393 said:
Adam Dunn??? LMAO Fuck no.....smh ....Lol at Adam Dunn being in the Hall Of Fame
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Dick Shitman;1317393 said:
If they basing it off just homeruns yeah . He kinda reminds me of Jim Thome terrible defense, hits for power to left, right,center, strikes out too much just like Thome eventually he'll be a DH but he wanna play the field too , whether it's in left field or first base he can't field his position. If he stays healthy and get his numbers up to where Thome will have 600 plus homers when he retire, and also play for a winning organization then I think he will be in that convo for The Hall.
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KeepOnPushing
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SMH at a Career .250 Hitter with 1,614 Career Strikeouts and Counting being in the Hall Of Fame....
Dude is Gonna Eventually Reach 2,000 + Strikeouts when his Career is Over...if he plays 3 more years he'll def. reach that cuz she he strikes out 170+ times a year
Dude is Gonna Eventually Reach 2,000 + Strikeouts when his Career is Over...if he plays 3 more years he'll def. reach that cuz she he strikes out 170+ times a year
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