Ayo Lets Keep It Trill: How You Hating On Ross If You Never Did Time In The Feds?

[gee757]

I aint care that Ross lied, its just that it hurts his crediabilty to the masses.

When it comes to Em, What he said was unforgivable, but in my eyes a true racist wouldn't want to make his millions off black music, even if he had the capability to rap better than any black rapper.

but i dont get that if a cracka like feminem can lie about bein RACIST & his crediablility wasnt hurt n BLK MUSIK y is da BLK MAN takin mo heat fa lyin about a TEEN CO GIG fa 18monthz? that shit just showz hiphop is no longER BLK MUSIK,...

 

[booggiiee]

I dont rock with ross musically because for one he just came out of now where and had a hit record thats suspect. He started doing mixtapes after he got on, who does that. You cant deny he has an ear for beats but bottom line it comes down to what you except and i dont except fake. Just cause you not a street dude dosent mean you should execpt fakeness. Real recognize real whether your on the block or in the boradroom. The world in general excepts anything now thats why we have all the bs we have. Real talk he is Ross Brasco!!!!! Feelings gonna be caught when it comes out.

 

[DatNiggaB1]

but i dont get that if a cracka like feminem can lie about bein RACIST & his crediablility wasnt hurt n BLK MUSIK y is da BLK MAN takin mo heat fa lyin about a TEEN CO GIG fa 18monthz? that shit just showz hiphop is no longER BLK MUSIK,...

The difference is that as black people it was not a massive shock that a white persons history involved racism.

But it was a shock that a rapper came out wid a smash like Hustling, told all these coke stories and then of all the jobs he could of had it turns out he was a C.O. Then after that he still lied until photographic evidence was produced.

Blacks still bump the hell out of Ross so in the big picture it makes no difference.

 

[thehonorable]

I dont rock with ross musically because for one he just came out of now where and had a hit record thats suspect. He started doing mixtapes after he got on, who does that. You cant deny he has an ear for beats but bottom line it comes down to what you except and i dont except fake. Just cause you not a street dude dosent mean you should execpt fakeness. Real recognize real whether your on the block or in the boradroom. The world in general excepts anything now thats why we have all the bs we have. Real talk he is Ross Brasco!!!!! Feelings gonna be caught when it comes out.

Ross been in the game since 99 or so. He paid his dues. Youre talking out of your ass.

 

[H-Rap 180]

The same could be said about 50 Cent who Sigel once was a toy soldier for and wanted to sign with and Eminem who you and gee call a racist,but gets co signed by every rapper in the industry.KRS-One once told Lil Wayne that he was the best rapper alive,so KRS is more credible than any Reason nerd who thinks they know who's nice and who isn't.The list can go on and on,but no one you named are relevant them selves.None of those people even knew Rick Ross before music.

The same can't be said for 50-Cent because he has been disrespected by rappers from the streets of every region, from C-Bo, to Fat Joe, to Z-Ro....he has been literally stabbed with a shank by another rapper (Black Child) had his chain-snatched and been dissed by former members of his own crew and G-Unit......50 gets less respect in the industry than Kreayshawn.

Of course KRSONE said Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive because Krs-one is a humanist now and that's his system.

People might say Emenim is awesome but it's mostly political-correctness spoken for the biggest selling artist with the biggest fan base.

I didn't name people based on relevance I named rappers from the streets who have been in the system and are highly respected in and out of the industry. real recognize real.

I like Ross's beats and delivery too but the fact that artist cosign Rick doesn't mean much. Hip Hop is business so it's in their best interest to cosign Rick, have you ever seen a rapper that was "hot" who didn't get cosigned by a majority of the industry? Rappers were co-signing Em after those racist tapes came out, rappers cosign wayne after he was seen kissing Baby on the lips in 6 different videos....and the girl pants, rappers cosign Justin Bieber, the whole industry was cosigning Soulja Boy at one point.

Why would it be within a street rappers "best interest" to associate with a rapper that people like you consider "fake"?

Wouldnt that undermine their own authenticity and street-cred with their fans??

.......or do these rappers from the streets with thorough pedigrees understand something that outsiders don't understand??

 

[Me1971]

The same can't be said for 50-Cent because he has been disrespected by rappers from the streets of every region, from C-Bo, to Fat Joe, to Z-Ro....he has been literally stabbed with a shank by another rapper (Black Child) had his chain-snatched and been dissed by former members of his own crew and G-Unit......50 gets less respect in the industry than Kreayshawn.Of course KRSONE said Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive because Krs-one is a humanist now and that's his system.

People might say Emenim is awesome but it's mostly political-correctness spoken for the biggest selling artist with the biggest fan base.

I didn't name people based on relevance I named rappers from the streets who have been in the system and are highly respected in and out of the industry. real recognize real.

Why would it be within a street rappers "best interest" to associate with a rapper that people like you consider "fake"?

Wouldnt that undermine their own authenticity and street-cred with their fans??

.......or do these rappers from the streets with thorough pedigrees understand something that outsiders don't understand??

Ross gets disrespected too, I assume Trick Daddy is very respected and credible but he's the one who pulled Rick's card and exposed him.

And 50 atually gets respect from alot of people including his enemies, getting stabbed doesn't mean you're not genrally respected, if that was the case then Rich Porter (got killed), Tookie Williams (was once shot) or other infamous street figure who was a victim were not respected. There's a difference between dislike and disrespect. Black Child didn't initially try to stab 50, someone in the room turned out the lights and Black Child was scared that someone was gonna start bussin so he basically just starting wiling, he didn't know he stabbed 50 until the lights came back on. Didn't he get his chain snatched when he was in Africa but jumped in the crowd and got it back? Game apologized to 50 and their beef was really over ego's clashing. You already know the Buck situation. Fat Joe liked 50 until 50 started coming at him cause he collabed with his enemy Ja Rule. And 50 was another who was co-signed by the whole industry from 03-05 when he was on top of the game, people co-signed him to the point of even helping him with his Ja Rule beef, they even let him be an editor of XXL magazine in 03 when he was still a freshman artist.

Exactly, thats what made me truly realize that it's all business. I know you're cool with his past but why wasn't Rick?

 

[gee757]

The difference is that as black people it was not a massive shock that a white persons history involved racism.

But it was a shock that a rapper came out wid a smash like Hustling, told all these coke stories and then of all the jobs he could of had it turns out he was a C.O. Then after that he still lied until photographic evidence was produced.

Blacks still bump the hell out of Ross so in the big picture it makes no difference.

HUH? thatz backwardz cuz blk people should b mo shock;d about a white cracka lyin about bein RACIST n BLK MUSIK then a blk man lyin about a TEEN CO JOB if wat ya sayin is tru blk folkz is stupid,,,smh

Ross gets disrespected too, I assume Trick Daddy is very respected and credible but he's the one who pulled Rick's card and exposed him.

And 50 atually gets respect from alot of people including his enemies, getting stabbed doesn't mean you're not genrally respected, if that was the case then Rich Porter (got killed), Tookie Williams (was once shot) or other infamous street figure who was a victim were not respected. There's a difference between dislike and disrespect. Black Child didn't initially try to stab 50, someone in the room turned out the lights and Black Child was scared that someone was gonna start bussin so he basically just starting wiling, he didn't know he stabbed 50 until the lights came back on. Didn't he get his chain snatched when he was in Africa but jumped in the crowd and got it back? Game apologized to 50 and their beef was really over ego's clashing. You already know the Buck situation. Fat Joe liked 50 until 50 started coming at him cause he collabed with his enemy Ja Rule. And 50 was another who was co-signed by the whole industry from 03-05 when he was on top of the game, people co-signed him to the point of even helping him with his Ja Rule beef, they even let him be an editor of XXL magazine in 03 when he was still a freshman artist.

Exactly, thats what made me truly realize that it's all business. I know you're cool with his past but why wasn't Rick?

u r delusional ja rule aint even been diss;d as many timez as woodface woodface has been diss;d by da majority of da game imean damn who aint diss;d woodface? thatz y his muuuunkee azz is stuck n a BOX now ross aint had a million diss trax, mixtapez, albumz & dvdz shittin on him like WOODFACE smh

 

[H-Rap 180]

Ross gets disrespected too, I assume Trick Daddy is very respected and credible but he's the one who pulled Rick's card and exposed him.

And 50 atually gets respect from alot of people including his enemies, getting stabbed doesn't mean you're not genrally respected, if that was the case then Rich Porter (got killed), Tookie Williams (was once shot) or other infamous street figure who was a victim were not respected. There's a difference between dislike and disrespect. Black Child didn't initially try to stab 50, someone in the room turned out the lights and Black Child was scared that someone was gonna start bussin so he basically just starting wiling, he didn't know he stabbed 50 until the lights came back on. Didn't he get his chain snatched when he was in Africa but jumped in the crowd and got it back? Game apologized to 50 and their beef was really over ego's clashing. You already know the Buck situation. Fat Joe liked 50 until 50 started coming at him cause he collabed with his enemy Ja Rule. And 50 was another who was co-signed by the whole industry from 03-05 when he was on top of the game, people co-signed him to the point of even helping him with his Ja Rule beef, they even let him be an editor of XXL magazine in 03 when he was still a freshman artist.

Exactly, thats what made me truly realize that it's all business. I know you're cool with his past but why wasn't Rick?

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You undermine your own argument because Trick Daddy was rolling with Ross for years and never pulled his card or exposed him and you can't provide any evidence to prove he has.

I dont remember 50-Cent ever being co-signed by all of the industry from 03-05 because he was beefing with so many respected artists who didn't respect him.

The reason why 50 had beef with two of the former members of G-Unit is because they both didn't respect him after being around him and knowing him personally.

 

[Me1971]

HUH? thatz backwardz cuz blk people should b mo shock;d about a white cracka lyin about bein RACIST n BLK MUSIK then a blk man lyin about a TEEN CO JOB if wat ya sayin is tru blk folkz is stupid,,,smh

u r delusional ja rule aint even been diss;d as many timez as woodface woodface has been diss;d by da majority of da game imean damn who aint diss;d woodface? thatz y his muuuunkee azz is stuck n a BOX now ross aint had a million diss trax, mixtapez, albumz & dvdz shittin on him like WOODFACE smh

DMX dissed him, Busta Rhymes dissed him, Jay stopped messing with him around that time, of course D-12, Em, and Dre got on it too. 50 was only dissed because he dissed them first. For example, Jay and 50 was cool in 2003, they even did a commercial together but after 05 their relationship became strained when 50 started dissing him, that's why Jay started going at him in interviews and Kingdom Come. They've always had a weird relationship though going back to like 1999. Nas was once cool with 50, even bringing him on tour during his early days. Jada admitted that he loved Get Rich or Die Trying...but when 50 dissed him he had to strike back.

 

[Me1971]

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You undermine your own argument because Trick Daddy was rolling with Ross for years and never pulled his card or exposed him and you can't provide any evidence to prove he has.

I dont remember 50-Cent ever being co-signed by all of the industry from 03-05 because he was beefing with so many respected artists who didn't respect him.

The reason why 50 had beef with two of the former members of G-Unit is because they both didn't respect him after being around him and knowing him personally.

My bad, I always thought it was Trick that exposed him. If it wasn't Trick then who was it?

The fallout between 50 and the former two group members isn't as cut and dry as you make it seem, and Game actually said he was open to working with 50 again, plus he apologized. Game is known to switch stances often, and didn't Young Buck have a bad drug habbit while blowing his money but kept asking for more money and 50 even helped Buck with some money even after he left the group. I think you're just seeing the fact that they left without looking at the fallout from both sides.

Ross has really loyal [diehard] fans though, they're more comfortable about his past than he is.

 

[ustreet_monsta]

He is making the best albums out sonically today.His lyricisim is improving with each outing.

How does being a CO really bother you if you never handled drugs or served time in the feds? Like everyone else ain't lying on records?

Pac was a ballarina B.

So if I sold drugs I can criticize freely?

 

[Knives Amilli]

c/s the thread premise.

Who really gives a fuck about his life and past outside off and before his rap career?

 

[gee757]

My bad, I always thought it was Trick that exposed him. If it wasn't Trick then who was it?

The fallout between 50 and the former two group members isn't as cut and dry as you make it seem, and Game actually said he was open to working with 50 again, plus he apologized. Game is known to switch stances often, and didn't Young Buck have a bad drug habbit while blowing his money but kept asking for more money and 50 even helped Buck with some money even after he left the group. I think you're just seeing the fact that they left without looking at the fallout from both sides.

Ross has really loyal [diehard] fans though, they're more comfortable about his past than he is.

if a SNITCH can make a song like WANKSTA then a former teen CO can make a song like HUSTLIN lol

 

[Me1971]

if a SNITCH can make a song like WANKSTA then a former teen CO can make a song like HUSTLIN lol

lol I don't like 50 either, not for any personal reasons but because I was never able to vibe with his music like that but the whole "snitching" thing just seems like speculation because there's no solid proof about that. Overall Ross makes good music but it's just odd that he goes so hard at glorifying a life that he probably didn't live, similiar to Plies. I can see if his music was balanced but outside of Mafia Music 2, he almost never warns of the negatives that come with that lifestyle like Jay, Big, or Clipse.

 

[gee757]

lol I don't like 50 either, not for any personal reasons but because I was never able to vibe with his music like that but the whole "snitching" thing just seems like speculation because there's no solid proof about that. Overall Ross makes good music but it's just odd that he goes so hard at glorifying a life that he probably didn't live, similiar to Plies. I can see if his music was balanced but outside of Mafia Music 2, he almost never warns of the negatives that come with that lifestyle like Jay, Big, or Clipse.

FALSE watch da SUPREME AMERICAN GANGSTA cuz woodface was makin FED statementz & this is wat i dont get so ross neva sold drugz cuz he was a teen co fa 18monthz? do people really think like that? & this is hiphop who n da world aint tellin fairytalez & promotin negative imagez n they rapz all this shit is ENTERTAINMENT! lol

 

[H-Rap 180]

My bad, I always thought it was Trick that exposed him. If it wasn't Trick then who was it?

The fallout between 50 and the former two group members isn't as cut and dry as you make it seem, and Game actually said he was open to working with 50 again, plus he apologized. Game is known to switch stances often, and didn't Young Buck have a bad drug habbit while blowing his money but kept asking for more money and 50 even helped Buck with some money even after he left the group. I think you're just seeing the fact that they left without looking at the fallout from both sides.

Ross has really loyal [diehard] fans though, they're more comfortable about his past than he is.

You undermine the premise of your argument, why would Trick share the info about Ross working for a year as a C.O. when he was 19 when people from that area already knew?? Plus they rolled together for years.

Magazine editor of Don Diva Sam Ferguson was rumored to have shared the story with people on a national level and he was subsequently murdered DJ Vladimir ran with the story and also paid a terrible price.

Yeah Game and Young Buck dissed 50-Cent without fear after knowing him personally, and they both lost fans by associating with 50-cent....maybe this is why 50-Cent retired from rap.

Fans of Ross music are typically people who focus more on music than living-out their ghetto-fantasies through a Black rapper.

 

[Me1971]

You undermine the premise of your argument, why would Trick share the info about Ross working for a year as a C.O. when he was 19 when people from that area already knew?? Plus they rolled together for years.

Magazine editor of Don Diva Sam Ferguson was rumored to have shared the story with people on a national level and he was subsequently murdered DJ Vladimir ran with the story and also paid a terrible price.

Yeah Game and Young Buck dissed 50-Cent without fear after knowing him personally, and they both lost fans by associating with 50-cent....maybe this is why 50-Cent retired from rap.

Fans of Ross music are typically people who focus more on music than living-out their ghetto-fantasies through a Black rapper.

I don't know the full of extent of Trick and Rick's relationship other than the fact that Ross did alot of work for Slip N Slide. Im a fan of Ross's music too but I'm still allowed to see it objectvely, I'm from south Philly so I see it from a different perspective than someone who grew up in the suburbs or never saw the negatives to the lifesyle he glamorizes. I'm a little bit older and I remember the 80's crack era, there was nothing glamorous about it, most of the young bol's out there didn't want to sell crack, it just seemed like one of the few options they had, alot of them got trapped in the life, some made it, some didn't. What does Game and Buck dissing him without fear have to do with anything? Did you hear both sides of the story from 50/Game and 50/Buck? The most success that Game and Buck had was with 50. Buck had more fans with G-Unit than he did when he was with Juvenile, Game's highest selling album was when he was associated with 50, his biggest hit was How We Do and Hate it or Love It, they both featured 50.

 

[ratchet bity]

Ross rolled.wid trick.fo.years thats.why its hard to believe ross was heavily involved wid boobie boys.cause da nigga boobie killd trick.brother hollywood n mac a zoe said he fake so he fake

 

[StillDreaming]

So if I sold drugs I can criticize freely?

If you ain't bout that life yourself then you have no right to criticize anybody for being fake.

 

[Bigavelli]

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