Ayo Lets Keep It Trill: How You Hating On Ross If You Never Did Time In The Feds?

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Because rappers don't create an image and use lyrics to tell stories

They keep it all the one hunnid

Duh

But for real

Cats are so used to garbage on the lyrical side and so out of touch with hiphop roots

They just don't know that story telling is like the whole fucking point
 
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H-Rap 180;3370538 said:
Ask a Street dude or an industry dude you get one answer
ask a E-poster or a suburbanite dude you get one answer

....I tend to respect the opinions of credible people from the streets, and the majority of them support Rick Ross while the majority of anonymous avatars on the Internet don't.

Who's opinion holds more weight: Project Pat or the Internet Mod Jamacia??

An unknown alias or Gillie??

An invisible-Avatar or Bleu Davinchi??

I have respect for Beanie Sigel, Reakwon, and E-40 so when they co-signed Ross I saw there co-signs were more valuable and meaningful than the unknown-identities on the Internet who have Zero credibility and don't know anything abou the streets.

Argumentum ad populum

Edit: and a bit of fallacious appeal to authority
 
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antarticp;3367444 said:
what u fail to realize is ... its not the lie he was hiding ... it was the fact that he was lieing ... he could of been rapping about working @ mcdz but was really a drug dealer ... we wouldnt fuck wit him ..... once your asked something keep it 100 or prepared to be burned for it later ..... it is what it is .......

That's what they don't get.Ross also stole the Real Rick Ross' identity and that shit is weak no matter what walk of life you live.If you are a man and cannot understand that then you need to hand in your man card.he can rap about whatever the fuck he wants to and even if he is cool with CCCs or whatever,he is still a fraud and is not who he said he is.People like to call other rappers fake and question Jay-Z's street cred when even his enemies say he got down and then people call 50 a snitch when there is no proof of him snitching.Yet the fake Rick Ross get's a hall pass? Fuck out of here b.
 
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H-Rap 180;3370538 said:
Ask a Street dude or an industry dude you get one answer

ask a E-poster or a suburbanite dude you get one answer

....I tend to respect the opinions of credible people from the streets, and the majority of them support Rick Ross while the majority of anonymous avatars on the Internet don't.

Who's opinion holds more weight Project Pat or the Internet Mod Jamacia??

An unknown alias or Gillie??

An invisible-Avatar or Bleu Davinchi??

I have respect for Beanie Sigel, Reakwon, and E-40 so when they co-signed Ross I saw there co-songs were more valuable and meaningful than the unknown-identities on the Internet who have Zero credibility and don't know anything abou the streets.

I like Ross's beats and delivery too but the fact that artist cosign Rick doesn't mean much. Hip Hop is business so it's in their best interest to cosign Rick, have you ever seen a rapper that was "hot" who didn't get cosigned by a majority of the industry? Rappers were co-signing Em after those racist tapes came out, rappers cosign wayne after he was seen kissing Baby on the lips in 6 different videos....and the girl pants, rappers cosign Justin Bieber, the whole industry was cosigning Soulja Boy at one point.
 
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H-Rap 180;3370538 said:
Ask a Street dude or an industry dude you get one answer
ask a E-poster or a suburbanite dude you get one answer

....I tend to respect the opinions of credible people from the streets, and the majority of them support Rick Ross while the majority of anonymous avatars on the Internet don't.

Who's opinion holds more weight: Project Pat or the Internet Mod Jamacia??

An unknown alias or Gillie??

An invisible-Avatar or Bleu Davinchi??

I have respect for Beanie Sigel, Reakwon, and E-40 so when they co-signed Ross I saw that their co-signs were more valuable and meaningful than the unknown-identities on the Internet who have Zero credibility and don't know anything abou the streets.

The same could be said about 50 Cent who Sigel once was a toy soldier for and wanted to sign with and Eminem who you and gee call a racist,but gets co signed by every rapper in the industry.KRS-One once told Lil Wayne that he was the best rapper alive,so KRS is more credible than any Reason nerd who thinks they know who's nice and who isn't.The list can go on and on,but no one you named are relevant them selves.None of those people even knew Rick Ross before music.
 
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Jonas.dini;3370596 said:
Argumentum ad populum

But it's a twist.

I'm a Black man with the streets in my pedigree so when I listen to Ross music I do it based on the sound quality...other people who lack the proper pedigree listen to rap-music so they can live out their ghetto-fantasies from the suburbs, that's why they focus on the genocide a rapper can authenticate instead of the actual music.

Just look at the difference with how the streets respond to Ross compared to the Internet....the thing that makes me extra appreciate Ross is that whites and squares automatically dismiss him based on their warped perception of the streets and corny idea of credibility....it gives his music an extra appeal for people like G-Rap, Slim Thug, Bun B and myself who like to mock and laugh at people who pretend to know things they will never understand. :p
 
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H-Rap 180;3370666 said:
But it's a twist.

I'm a Black man with the streets in my pedigree so when I listen to Ross music I do it based on the sound quality...other people who lack the proper pedigree listen to rap-music so they can live out their ghetto-fantasies from the suburbs, that's why they focus on the genocide a rapper can authenticate instead of the actual music.

Just look at the difference with how the streets respond to Ross compared to the Internet....the thing that makes me extra appreciate Ross is that whites and squares automatically dismiss him based on their warped perception of the streets and corny idea of credibility....it gives his music an extra appeal for people like G-Rap, Slim Thug, Bun B and myself who like to mock and laugh at people who pretend to know things they will never understand. :p

Once again, argumentum ad populum, and ad hominem to boot

I read Stephen Toulmin's classic Introduction to Reasoning over the weekend, so my spidey sense is catching logical fallacies left and right... Good read, a little dry but that's argument theory for ya
 
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facts:

officer william roberts II is the true definition of a coon.

1. PARENTS HAD GOOD ASS JOBS
2. GREW UP IN A UPPER MIDDLE CLASS AREA IN FLORIDA NEAR MIAMI
3. HAD 3 GOOD ASS NICE PAYING JOBS. WORKED FOR HIS FATHERS ROOFING COMPANY, PARAMEDIC, AND A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER.
4. GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE WITH HONERS
5. WENT TO ONE OF THE TOP BLACK UNIVERSITIES AND STUDIED CRIMINAL LAW
6. HAD A FOOTBALL SCHOLARSHIP AND A GOOD CHANCE TO GO TO THE N.F.L
7. HIS FIRST CAR WAS BOUGHT BY HIS PARENTS AND I THINK IT WAS A BRAND NEW BENZ OR A SIMI NEW BENTLEY.

THE COON PART

1. THREW ALL THAT AWAY TO BECOME A RAPPER
2. kNOCKED UP A WELL KNOWN HOODRAT FROM ONE OF THE WORST PROJECTS/HOODS IN MIAMI WHO ALREADY HAD 2 KIDS BY A THUG.
3. STARTED TO GET A BUNCH A TATTOOS, SMOKE WEED, AND HUNG AROUND STREET NIGGAS TO FIT IN WITH THE GANGSTA RAPPERS(LIKE MOST PRIVILEGED KIDS DO FOR SOME STRANGE REASON)
4. STARTED TO BECOME A GANGSTA RAPPER AND CHANGED HIS NAME TO A WELL KNOWN CALIFORNIA D BOY.
5. ONCE HE GOT ON HE WANTED TO BECOME A STATISTIC AND NOT TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILD AND CHEAT ON HIS WOMAN
6. HE CHEATED ON HIS WOMAN WITH A MIAMI PROSTITUTE AND KNOCKED HER UP
7. HE IS NOW LATE ON HIS CHILD SUPPORT, IS BEHIND ON HIS TAXES, OWES ON A BUNCH OF STUFF AND LIES ABOUT HIS NICE UPBRINGING.

NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL A COON!!! but he calls himself a baws though........smh
 
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Ask a Street dude or an industry dude you get one answer

ask a E-poster or a suburbanite dude you get one answer

....I tend to respect the opinions of credible people from the streets, and the majority of them support 50 Cent while the majority of anonymous avatars on the Internet don't.

Who's opinion holds more weight: Snoop Doggy Dogg or the Internet Poster H-Rap 180??

An unknown alias or Lloyd Banks??

An invisible-Avatar or Floyd Mayweather??

I have respect for Beanie Sigel, Jim Jones, and KRS One so when they co-signed 50 Cent I saw that their co-signs were more valuable and meaningful than the unknown-identities on the Internet who have Zero credibility and don't know anything abou the streets.
 
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deep east oakland p;3371150 said:
facts:

officer william roberts II is the true definition of a coon.

1. PARENTS HAD GOOD ASS JOBS
2. GREW UP IN A UPPER MIDDLE CLASS AREA IN FLORIDA NEAR MIAMI
3. HAD 3 GOOD ASS NICE PAYING JOBS. WORKED FOR HIS FATHERS ROOFING COMPANY, PARAMEDIC, AND A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER.
4. GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE WITH HONERS
5. WENT TO ONE OF THE TOP BLACK UNIVERSITIES AND STUDIED CRIMINAL LAW
6. HAD A FOOTBALL SCHOLARSHIP AND A GOOD CHANCE TO GO TO THE N.F.L
7. HIS FIRST CAR WAS BOUGHT BY HIS PARENTS AND I THINK IT WAS A BRAND NEW BENZ OR A SIMI NEW BENTLEY.

THE COON PART

1. THREW ALL THAT AWAY TO BECOME A RAPPER
2. kNOCKED UP A WELL KNOWN HOODRAT FROM ONE OF THE WORST PROJECTS/HOODS IN MIAMI WHO ALREADY HAD 2 KIDS BY A THUG.
3. STARTED TO GET A BUNCH A TATTOOS, SMOKE WEED, AND HUNG AROUND STREET NIGGAS TO FIT IN WITH THE GANGSTA RAPPERS(LIKE MOST PRIVILEGED KIDS DO FOR SOME STRANGE REASON)
4. STARTED TO BECOME A GANGSTA RAPPER AND CHANGED HIS NAME TO A WELL KNOWN CALIFORNIA D BOY.
5. ONCE HE GOT ON HE WANTED TO BECOME A STATISTIC AND NOT TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILD AND CHEAT ON HIS WOMAN
6. HE CHEATED ON HIS WOMAN WITH A MIAMI PROSTITUTE AND KNOCKED HER UP
7. HE IS NOW LATE ON HIS CHILD SUPPORT, IS BEHIND ON HIS TAXES, OWES ON A BUNCH OF STUFF AND LIES ABOUT HIS NICE UPBRINGING.

NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL A COON!!! but he calls himself a baws though........smh

Daaaamn.....lmao
 
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philly_soldier;3367010 said:
Here's how I look at it. Rick Ross does have good music, point blank otherwise he wouldn't be selling units like he does. But the fact remains that his whole rap, his whole come up was built off lies. He promotes slanging to the youth and living a drug dealer life he never lived. This nigga out there rapping to our society and our kids about how slanging cocaine is so cool when he ain't never fucked with it. That's like a female MC coming about how she sucks the best dick and handle some serious pipe and it turns out the bitch a virgin. I ain't mad at his hustle but that fat nigga fake... as long as he make good music I'll still listen but the credibility he had before the whole CO scandal came up is gone, on top of that he lied about not being one but that's his business, not mine.

now b4 i go n on u i got 2 questionz is that u n ya avi & r u white?

jamacia;3368791 said:
he denied being a co while glorifying negative stereotypes. that's the problem not to mention he's a wack ass rapper that relies on beats as a crutch

gtfoh u r a BIGGIE groupie who glorified negative stereotypez & HOMOSEXUALITY....plus that cracka FEMINEM denied bein a RACIST back n 99 while dissin a BLK WOMAN fa bein RACIST when his cracka azz was da 1 who had RACIST TAPEZ dissin BLK WOMEN..,.,

H-Rap 180;3370538 said:
Ask a Street dude or an industry dude you get one answer

ask a E-poster or a suburbanite dude you get one answer

....I tend to respect the opinions of credible people from the streets, and the majority of them support Rick Ross while the majority of anonymous avatars on the Internet don't.

Who's opinion holds more weight: Project Pat or the Internet Mod Jamacia??

An unknown alias or Gillie??

An invisible-Avatar or Bleu Davinchi??

I have respect for Beanie Sigel, Reakwon, and E-40 so when they co-signed Ross I saw that their co-signs were more valuable and meaningful than the unknown-identities on the Internet who have Zero credibility and don't know anything abou the streets.

DEAD

Me1971;3370616 said:
I like Ross's beats and delivery too but the fact that artist cosign Rick doesn't mean much. Hip Hop is business so it's in their best interest to cosign Rick, have you ever seen a rapper that was "hot" who didn't get cosigned by a majority of the industry? Rappers were co-signing Em after those racist tapes came out, rappers cosign wayne after he was seen kissing Baby on the lips in 6 different videos....and the girl pants, rappers cosign Justin Bieber, the whole industry was cosigning Soulja Boy at one point.

FALSE those blk industry rapperz kissin da cracka feminemz azz after them racist tapez was FORCED cuz they was afraid if they shit on da cracka fa bein a cracka they will lose they white fanbase thatz y i gotta SALUTE rozay fa callin da cracka a HONKEY & out sellin his pet MUUUUNKEE cuz these blk industry rapperz dont have 2 kiss ross azz ross just getz love cuz itz DEEPER THAN RAP! lol

deep east oakland p;3371150 said:
facts:

officer william roberts II is the true definition of a coon.

1. PARENTS HAD GOOD ASS JOBS

2. GREW UP IN A UPPER MIDDLE CLASS AREA IN FLORIDA NEAR MIAMI

3. HAD 3 GOOD ASS NICE PAYING JOBS. WORKED FOR HIS FATHERS ROOFING COMPANY, PARAMEDIC, AND A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER.

4. GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE WITH HONERS

5. WENT TO ONE OF THE TOP BLACK UNIVERSITIES AND STUDIED CRIMINAL LAW

6. HAD A FOOTBALL SCHOLARSHIP AND A GOOD CHANCE TO GO TO THE N.F.L

7. HIS FIRST CAR WAS BOUGHT BY HIS PARENTS AND I THINK IT WAS A BRAND NEW BENZ OR A SIMI NEW BENTLEY.

THE COON PART

1. THREW ALL THAT AWAY TO BECOME A RAPPER

2. kNOCKED UP A WELL KNOWN HOODRAT FROM ONE OF THE WORST PROJECTS/HOODS IN MIAMI WHO ALREADY HAD 2 KIDS BY A THUG.

3. STARTED TO GET A BUNCH A TATTOOS, SMOKE WEED, AND HUNG AROUND STREET NIGGAS TO FIT IN WITH THE GANGSTA RAPPERS(LIKE MOST PRIVILEGED KIDS DO FOR SOME STRANGE REASON)

4. STARTED TO BECOME A GANGSTA RAPPER AND CHANGED HIS NAME TO A WELL KNOWN CALIFORNIA D BOY.

5. ONCE HE GOT ON HE WANTED TO BECOME A STATISTIC AND NOT TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILD AND CHEAT ON HIS WOMAN

6. HE CHEATED ON HIS WOMAN WITH A MIAMI PROSTITUTE AND KNOCKED HER UP

7. HE IS NOW LATE ON HIS CHILD SUPPORT, IS BEHIND ON HIS TAXES, OWES ON A BUNCH OF STUFF AND LIES ABOUT HIS NICE UPBRINGING.

NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL A COON!!! but he calls himself a baws though........smh

FUK U NIGGA BOY & COONTOWN AKA OAKLAND DEF 2 U SLAVE & DA WHITE CRACKA MOB BITCH GO SHYNE THEM WHITE CRACKA MOB BITCHZ SHOEZ NIGGA BOY!
 
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Gee you said if Rappers diss Eminem and not praise him they will lose their white fan base

So explain how Rick Ross got 2 Gold Plaques after he dissed Eminem and called him a Honkey why didn't Rick Ross lose his white fan base after dissing Eminem yet sold Gold on both Deeper than Rap & Teflon Don?

Explain how Ja Rule sold Platinum after dissing Eminem's daughter the most cowardly and low thing a person can do yet he still sold Platinum after explain why Ja Rule never lost his white fan base after dissing Eminem?

Explain why Rakims Album Seventh Seal flopped so badly sold copper lol after Rakim said Eminem is the Mohammed Ali of Hip Hop? Rakim gave Eminem the biggest compliment you possibley could on camera yet his Album flopped so badly

Come on Gee stop with the lies and the millitant properganda and answer my questions don't go off topic
 
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jamacia;3371506 said:
Ask a Street dude or an industry dude you get one answer

ask a E-poster or a suburbanite dude you get one answer

....I tend to respect the opinions of credible people from the streets, and the majority of them support 50 Cent while the majority of anonymous avatars on the Internet don't.

Who's opinion holds more weight: Snoop Doggy Dogg or the Internet Poster H-Rap 180??

An unknown alias or Lloyd Banks??

An invisible-Avatar or Floyd Mayweather??

I have respect for Beanie Sigel, Jim Jones, and KRS One so when they co-signed 50 Cent I saw that their co-signs were more valuable and meaningful than the unknown-identities on the Internet who have Zero credibility and don't know anything abou the streets.

Yet you such a hypocrite

Who's opinion holds more weight on Eminem Rakim 1 of the greatest Lyricists and a Hip Hop legend ever or Jamaica a bafooon IC mod/avator

[video=youtube;I53vWm8dJGk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53vWm8dJGk[/video]
 
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Bigavelli;3373558 said:
Gee you said if Rappers diss Eminem and not praise him they will lose their white fan base

So explain how Rick Ross got 2 Gold Plaques after he dissed Eminem and called him a Honkey why didn't Rick Ross lose his white fan base after dissing Eminem yet sold Gold on both Deeper than Rap & Teflon Don?

Explain how Ja Rule sold Platinum after dissing Eminem's daughter the most cowardly and low thing a person can do yet he still sold Platinum after explain why Ja Rule never lost his white fan base after dissing Eminem?

Explain why Rakims Album Seventh Seal flopped so badly sold copper lol after Rakim said Eminem is the Mohammed Ali of Hip Hop? Rakim gave Eminem the biggest compliment you possibley could on camera yet his Album flopped so badly

Come on Gee stop with the lies and the millitant properganda and answer my questions don't go off topic

lol@ militant properganda...nah itz da truTH ross dont depend on a white fanbase like a WOODFACE
 
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gee757;3373606 said:
lol@ militant properganda...nah itz da truTH ross dont depend on a white fanbase like a WOODFACE

In other words i just proved you wrong and that is ya response
 
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deep east oakland p;3371150 said:
facts:

officer william roberts II is the true definition of a coon.

1. PARENTS HAD GOOD ASS JOBS
2. GREW UP IN A UPPER MIDDLE CLASS AREA IN FLORIDA NEAR MIAMI
3. HAD 3 GOOD ASS NICE PAYING JOBS. WORKED FOR HIS FATHERS ROOFING COMPANY, PARAMEDIC, AND A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER.
4. GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE WITH HONERS
5. WENT TO ONE OF THE TOP BLACK UNIVERSITIES AND STUDIED CRIMINAL LAW
6. HAD A FOOTBALL SCHOLARSHIP AND A GOOD CHANCE TO GO TO THE N.F.L
7. HIS FIRST CAR WAS BOUGHT BY HIS PARENTS AND I THINK IT WAS A BRAND NEW BENZ OR A SIMI NEW BENTLEY.

THE COON PART

1. THREW ALL THAT AWAY TO BECOME A RAPPER
2. kNOCKED UP A WELL KNOWN HOODRAT FROM ONE OF THE WORST PROJECTS/HOODS IN MIAMI WHO ALREADY HAD 2 KIDS BY A THUG.
3. STARTED TO GET A BUNCH A TATTOOS, SMOKE WEED, AND HUNG AROUND STREET NIGGAS TO FIT IN WITH THE GANGSTA RAPPERS(LIKE MOST PRIVILEGED KIDS DO FOR SOME STRANGE REASON)
4. STARTED TO BECOME A GANGSTA RAPPER AND CHANGED HIS NAME TO A WELL KNOWN CALIFORNIA D BOY.
5. ONCE HE GOT ON HE WANTED TO BECOME A STATISTIC AND NOT TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILD AND CHEAT ON HIS WOMAN
6. HE CHEATED ON HIS WOMAN WITH A MIAMI PROSTITUTE AND KNOCKED HER UP
7. HE IS NOW LATE ON HIS CHILD SUPPORT, IS BEHIND ON HIS TAXES, OWES ON A BUNCH OF STUFF AND LIES ABOUT HIS NICE UPBRINGING.

NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL A COON!!! but he calls himself a baws though........smh

Well I'll be damned ^^^ thats a lot of ether.........

But fact remains..........A C.O IS NOT A COP.

Some of the closet alies a inmate could have are prison staff.......Believe someone who knows first hand.

Ross fucked up by lying. Something that will NEVER be forgotton.
 
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DatNiggaB1;3373633 said:
Well I'll be damned ^^^ thats a lot of ether.........

But fact remains..........A C.O IS NOT A COP.

Some of the closet alies a inmate could have are prison staff.......Believe someone who knows first hand.

Ross fucked up by lying. Something that will NEVER be forgotton.

if u r blk & u can 4give a RACIST CRACKA like FEMINEm fa LYIN about bein racist wit RACIST TAPEZ then u gotta 4give rozay fa LYIN about a TEEN GIG he had fa 18 monthz or ya a straight HOUSENIGGA(B im not callin u no housenigga fam lol)
 
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gee757;3373656 said:
if u r blk & u can 4give a RACIST CRACKA like FEMINEm fa LYIN about bein racist wit RACIST TAPEZ then u gotta 4give rozay fa LYIN about a TEEN GIG he had fa 18 monthz or ya a straight HOUSENIGGA(B im not callin u no housenigga fam lol)

But Eminem didn't deny or lie as soon as the Foolish Pride tape came out Eminem straight away admitted it was him apologized and explained it in countless interviews apologized in public countless times, apologized on TV, apologized in magazine interviews not once did he deny it

Rick Ross lied about being a Correction Officer even after there was evidence even after there was a picture and documents to prove it he continued to lie

This is what you don't seem to get
 
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Bigavelli;3373717 said:
But Eminem didn't deny or lie as soon as the Foolish Pride tape came out Eminem straight away admitted it was him apologized and explained it in countless interviews apologized in public countless times, apologized on TV, apologized in magazine interviews not once did he deny it

Rick Ross lied about being a Correction Officer even after there was evidence even after there was a picture and documents to prove it he continued to lie

This is what you don't seem to get

yes that cracka did lie cuz when he diss;d lauryn hill ova a RUMOR of her bein racist n 99 he said he wasnt RACIST...

[video=youtube;kxVBGUmjAvQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxVBGUmjAvQ&feature=feedu[/video]

^ C THAT CRACKA IS A LYIN PIECE OF SHIT CUZ HE HAD RACIST TAPEZ N 99 FUK THAT RACIST CRACKA!
 
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gee757;3373656 said:
if u r blk & u can 4give a RACIST CRACKA like FEMINEm fa LYIN about bein racist wit RACIST TAPEZ then u gotta 4give rozay fa LYIN about a TEEN GIG he had fa 18 monthz or ya a straight HOUSENIGGA(B im not callin u no housenigga fam lol)

I aint care that Ross lied, its just that it hurts his crediabilty to the masses.

When it comes to Em, What he said was unforgivable, but in my eyes a true racist wouldn't want to make his millions off black music, even if he had the capability to rap better than any black rapper.

I still cant stand him, but for different reasons to you.
 
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