At what point is it ok for countries to get into other country's bussiness?

[EvanR12]

Your the least informed dude on here.

Being white has nothing to do per se, but being a white, young, and ill informed is a heads up to let people know what they are dealing with.

Your a first rate fool, you speak of something you have no knowledge of, to say everyone knows ,such and such is typical white privilege propaganda. You think just because you spout some unsubstantiated bull shit that it holds weight. Try again youngin. It's not contradictory. It is only contradictory to those who don't understand the principle of Justice. Which unfortunately, your people have very little concept of. Women are respected way more over seas than here. You all parade your woman around like whores half naked, battered and brutalize them, rape them. Impregnate them and skate responsibility. White boy, you have no moral authority to judge any nations doing until you first clean up your own house. More rapes, unwed mothers, battered woman shelters in the US than in all Muslim Nations combined.

Captial punishment is a principle practiced in the US. The mode of death may change but the end is the same. Savage? Savage means someone who has no knowledge of himself and is living an animal existence. Faggots, pornography, murder, rape, stealing, etc are the order of the day in a savage nation. Which nations lead in these categories?

There is jurisprudence in those countries. They just don't drag things out so lawyers, judges, bail bondsman, cops, and others tied to the criminal justice system can wax rich.

Present the facts, verdict, chop the head off, and a big ass hole to dump your monkey ass in.

Its a fact that rape is legal in alot of those countries and they consider the woman property................... The police do the raping.

"White privelage propaganda" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ha

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Its a fact that rape is legal in alot of those countries and they consider the woman property................... The police do the raping.

"White privelage propaganda" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ha

You sounds like a news station. Do you work for CNN?

 

[The True Flesh]

And Step = The only one in this thread who has any understanding on this topic.

The rest of you sound like blundering idiots.......especially the T/S

PEACE

 

[Chike]

Your the least informed dude on here.

Being white has nothing to do per se, but being a white, young, and ill informed is a heads up to let people know what they are dealing with.

Your a first rate fool, you speak of something you have no knowledge of, to say everyone knows ,such and such is typical white privilege propaganda. You think just because you spout some unsubstantiated bull shit that it holds weight. Try again youngin. It's not contradictory. It is only contradictory to those who don't understand the principle of Justice. Which unfortunately, your people have very little concept of. Women are respected way more over seas than here. You all parade your woman around like whores half naked, battered and brutalize them, rape them. Impregnate them and skate responsibility. White boy, you have no moral authority to judge any nations doing until you first clean up your own house. More rapes, unwed mothers, battered woman shelters in the US than in all Muslim Nations combined.

Captial punishment is a principle practiced in the US. The mode of death may change but the end is the same. Savage? Savage means someone who has no knowledge of himself and is living an animal existence. Faggots, pornography, murder, rape, stealing, etc are the order of the day in a savage nation. Which nations lead in these categories?

There is jurisprudence in those countries. They just don't drag things out so lawyers, judges, bail bondsman, cops, and others tied to the criminal justice system can wax rich.

Present the facts, verdict, chop the head off, and a big ass hole to dump your monkey ass in.

Damn, step. Be easy on him, he's just a little boy. lol

 

[EvanR12]

I am the only one who just states facts. I dont understand are you guys denying that rape is legal in iran? Rape is legal in iran. And step said the U.S. has more rapes than anywhere on earth. Rape is illegal in this country and you are punished if you rape someone because we protect justice. In Iran, rape is perfectly OK, it is legal. The woman are treated as property, and men are allowed to rape their "wives". simple as that. I state the facts that rape is legal in iran and you guys just go off and wander around the issue, while trying to stir up hatred for white people like you always do. If you are going to argue this please begin with the statement "rape is illegal in Iran" just so i know you are wrong. I just thought you guys were sooo against all forms of slavery. And Step thinks woman have it worse in the U.S. than in Iran lol thats all i need to say

http://www.mererhetoric.com/2007/01...escent-girls-they-call-it-temporary-marriage/

 

[Chike]

I am the only one who just states facts. I dont understand are you guys denying that rape is legal in iran? Rape is legal in iran. And step said the U.S. has more rapes than anywhere on earth. Rape is illegal in this country and you are punished if you rape someone because we protect justice. In Iran, rape is perfectly OK, it is legal. The woman are treated as property, and men are allowed to rape their "wives". simple as that. I state the facts that rape is legal in iran and you guys just go off and wander around the issue, while trying to stir up hatred for white people like you always do. If you are going to argue this please begin with the statement "rape is illegal in Iran" just so i know you are wrong. I just thought you guys were sooo against all forms of slavery. And Step thinks woman have it worse in the U.S. than in Iran lol thats all i need to say

http://www.mererhetoric.com/2007/01...escent-girls-they-call-it-temporary-marriage/

I think this kid got all his information about the middle east from watching Aladdin.

 

[EvanR12]

and step said if you rape woman overseas(which is stupid anyway because which country are you talking about?) you are punished. not only are you not punished but the actual government and authorities of Iran are the ones who rape and torture everyone while they are in custody, because theyr families will not accept them back into their home because i was also right about how badly homosexuallity is condemned in that culture. There are maaany countries over seas where rape is legal. Its not an opinion. Woman get the most respect and rights in our country, select parts of Europe, and Canada. And Step is wrong.

"Not just murder, but the rape of young men and women also is on the shameless roster of the Islamic Republic. After years of sporadic charges and troubling rumors, finally a courageous cleric has put a stamp of public recognition on atrocious practices in the theocratic state.

Mehdi Karrubi -- one of the revolutionary founders of the Islamic Republic, a high-ranking cleric, a presidential candidate, a former speaker of the house and now a widely popular political activist -- has published a letter, addressing it to the former president and current head of the Expediency Council Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. He accuses the security officers of the Islamic Republic of repeatedly and violently raping young women and men while they are in custody.

Since the publication of this letter, a massive outpouring of testimony and reports has come out, corroborating Karrubi's charges that rapes of young women and men are a widespread, common practice in the Islamic Republic.

These are not light charges for any state, for any republic, let alone for an Islamic Republic. "

-CNN

You guys are mad at white people because other white people had slaves generations ago, and you deny and have no problem with the modern day slavery and abuse that occurs.Thats why i dont trust many of you. check the last link i posted also

 

[And Step]

and step said if you rape woman overseas(which is stupid anyway because which country are you talking about?) you are punished. not only are you not punished but the actual government and authorities of Iran are the ones who rape and torture everyone while they are in custody, because theyr families will not accept them back into their home because i was also right about how badly homosexuallity is condemned in that culture. There are maaany countries over seas where rape is legal. Its not an opinion. Woman get the most respect and rights in our country, select parts of Europe, and Canada. And Step is wrong.

"Not just murder, but the rape of young men and women also is on the shameless roster of the Islamic Republic. After years of sporadic charges and troubling rumors, finally a courageous cleric has put a stamp of public recognition on atrocious practices in the theocratic state.

Mehdi Karrubi -- one of the revolutionary founders of the Islamic Republic, a high-ranking cleric, a presidential candidate, a former speaker of the house and now a widely popular political activist -- has published a letter, addressing it to the former president and current head of the Expediency Council Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. He accuses the security officers of the Islamic Republic of repeatedly and violently raping young women and men while they are in custody.

Since the publication of this letter, a massive outpouring of testimony and reports has come out, corroborating Karrubi's charges that rapes of young women and men are a widespread, common practice in the Islamic Republic.

These are not light charges for any state, for any republic, let alone for an Islamic Republic. "

-CNN

You guys are mad at white people because other white people had slaves generations ago, and you deny and have no problem with the modern day slavery and abuse that occurs.Thats why i dont trust many of you. check the last link i posted also

You haven't been outside your neighborhood, little boy. CNN? Baaaahhhhhh.

Normally, I would ether posters like you, but you are so horrendously misinformed, I will let you take on the duties.

 

[Chike]

and step said if you rape woman overseas(which is stupid anyway because which country are you talking about?) you are punished. not only are you not punished but the actual government and authorities of Iran are the ones who rape and torture everyone while they are in custody, because theyr families will not accept them back into their home because i was also right about how badly homosexuallity is condemned in that culture. There are maaany countries over seas where rape is legal. Its not an opinion. Woman get the most respect and rights in our country, select parts of Europe, and Canada. And Step is wrong.

"Not just murder, but the rape of young men and women also is on the shameless roster of the Islamic Republic. After years of sporadic charges and troubling rumors, finally a courageous cleric has put a stamp of public recognition on atrocious practices in the theocratic state.

Mehdi Karrubi -- one of the revolutionary founders of the Islamic Republic, a high-ranking cleric, a presidential candidate, a former speaker of the house and now a widely popular political activist -- has published a letter, addressing it to the former president and current head of the Expediency Council Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. He accuses the security officers of the Islamic Republic of repeatedly and violently raping young women and men while they are in custody.

Since the publication of this letter, a massive outpouring of testimony and reports has come out, corroborating Karrubi's charges that rapes of young women and men are a widespread, common practice in the Islamic Republic.

These are not light charges for any state, for any republic, let alone for an Islamic Republic. "

-CNN

You guys are mad at white people because other white people had slaves generations ago, and you deny and have no problem with the modern day slavery and abuse that occurs.Thats why i dont trust many of you. check the last link i posted also

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[And Step]

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Where did you get that gif from and what are they laughing at.

 

[janklow]

Simply put, We need to fix our problems at home first before we keep jumping in to save other nations.

jumping in or being asked in? and again, why do we presume that ANYTHING done outside of the US isn't any of the US' business?

Its a fact we have alternate sources for energy that would work just fine, we dont need that oil anymore.

now, or in 1991?

 

[Chike]

Where did you get that gif from and what are they laughing at.

I have no clue what they're laughing at. I can't remember where I found it either.

 

[FrozenMind]

Where did you get that gif from and what are they laughing at.

2 girls an a cup?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

jumping in or being asked in? and again, why do we presume that ANYTHING done outside of the US isn't any of the US' business?

now, or in 1991?

Jumping in, if we're asked in fine lend support to your allies. But if you are asked to help, dont expend all of our money, troops, and resources. I think when we help we use way to much and put to much into it when we really dont have to. If we are asked to help, dont stay there 10 years after the war and keep pouring money into rebuilding, its the allie who's war it originally was to do that not the backup. And I presume anything we do outside of here isnt our business because the good majority isnt.

Now more than anything. In 91 we had alternate sources but I dont think it could have been as effective as what we can do today. Not neccasarily us in Iraq for oil but in other countries as well still. Our foreign dependence on oil should not be.

 

[shootemwon]

jumping in or being asked in? and again, why do we presume that ANYTHING done outside of the US isn't any of the US' business?

We do have an international role. Isolationism won't work in 2010. But in the same sentiment, unless we are directly defending ourselves, there is no reason why we should be in other countries unilaterally. If there's not a strong international coalition willing to get involved in another countries problems, then it's a good sign that we're overstating the case for our own involvement. Not to mention, there's no reason for the US to carry the burden of "saving the world" alone. The Unipolar Age has ended. This is a multipolar world. Everyone has a stake and we all must do our part.

 

[janklow]

Jumping in, if we're asked in fine lend support to your allies. But if you are asked to help, dont expend all of our money, troops, and resources.

in fairness, though, that's more of a complaint about HOW we help than the concept of helping at all, and the latter's what it seems to be when we talk about minding our own business. the thing is, though, some of what you're saying (..."dont stay there 10 years after the war and keep pouring money into rebuilding, its the allie who's war it originally was to do that not the backup"...) simply doesn't apply to the 1991 circumstance, so either you ARE arguing against every last overseas event or this is more being stuck on the current ones (which is okay if we're just discussing them, i guess).

Our foreign dependence on oil should not be.

it probably shouldn't be, but i think it's unrealistic to pretend there's an easy, quick fix for that (if only because of the infrastructure and people who rely on oil in their daily lives) from "alternate sources"

We do have an international role. Isolationism won't work in 2010. But in the same sentiment, unless we are directly defending ourselves, there is no reason why we should be in other countries unilaterally. If there's not a strong international coalition willing to get involved in another countries problems, then it's a good sign that we're overstating the case for our own involvement. Not to mention, there's no reason for the US to carry the burden of "saving the world" alone. The Unipolar Age has ended. This is a multipolar world. Everyone has a stake and we all must do our part.

this is all well and good; i'm not really trying to argue that the US should jump into EVERY conflict, ignore consequences, ignore allies, and so on. my objection is more to the notion that anything the US does overseas can be dismissed with the label "not our business."

 

[ThaChozenWun]

it probably shouldn't be, but i think it's unrealistic to pretend there's an easy, quick fix for that (if only because of the infrastructure and people who rely on oil in their daily lives) from "alternate sources"

Point is we had alternative energy in as far back as the 50s. We have people who have created engines to run on things outside of fossil fuels. They never get patents, they decided they cant make as much money on other sources of energy, and they will milk the oil cow until its dry. Easy fix, no. But it's not an extremely difficult task. It may take 10-15 years to get housing switched over, or even better, use wind and hydro power to built new plants that will feed the electric through the wires we already have set up. And the car shit is not hard at all to switch over. Guys have created hydro powered cars, electric cars, solar cars etc... Instead of us giving billions to these car companies so they can supplying gas powered cars, we should have made them convert to a different type that wasnt gas powered. I dont see it as a extremely hard or impossible task to change. It would take a little bit of time but the more and more we get done the less and less were damaging the atmosphere during the process. Id rather us die or go broke trying to save the Earth rather than sit back and allow it to end because we were too lazy and greedy to stop it. We are too fuckin intelligent to allow it to happen.

 

[janklow]

Easy fix, no. But it's not an extremely difficult task. It may take 10-15 years to get housing switched over, or even better, use wind and hydro power to built new plants that will feed the electric through the wires we already have set up.

well, i don't think wind and hydro power are going to be the game-changers you think; honestly, i think nuclear power would have had been success in this "let's do something aside from coal/gas" field, but people get emotional about the word nuclear. either way, i think we just don't agree on how "easy" this fix/transition would be. yeah, oil companies have a financial interest in selling oil. but they'd probably sell any fuel that was profitable.

And the car shit is not hard at all to switch over. Guys have created hydro powered cars, electric cars, solar cars etc... Instead of us giving billions to these car companies so they can supplying gas powered cars, we should have made them convert to a different type that wasnt gas powered. I dont see it as a extremely hard or impossible task to change

consider that part of the difficulty is not so much replacing the car part of the equation as it is replacing the gas station part of the equation.