Assault weapons ban now highly unlikely: Senate Democrats won’t even include it in their bill

[Drew_Ali]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America................

Has to do with what Harry Belafonte said.............

"The rivers of blood that wash the streets of our nation flow mostly from the bodies of our black children. Yet, as the great debate emerges on the question of the gun, white America discusses the constitutional issues of ownership while no one speaks to the consequences of our racial carnage."

 

[blakfyahking]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America................

Has to do with what Harry Belafonte said.............

"The rivers of blood that wash the streets of our nation flow mostly from the bodies of our black children. Yet, as the great debate emerges on the question of the gun, white America discusses the constitutional issues of ownership while no one speaks to the consequences of our racial carnage."

so you believe legislation is what will reduce gun violence in America?

our black children are more under threat from the violent collective mindset that is shared in our culture

vs. focusing on one inanimate object that is seldom misused by law-abiding citizens

those who continue to not give a damn about the black community while expecting to be sheltered just because they were born in it are more of a threat to black children being murdered

we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions

instead of hoping outside groups who've already been known to vicitimize us will one day grow a heart and save us from ourselves SMH

 

[Drew_Ali]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America................

Has to do with what Harry Belafonte said.............

"The rivers of blood that wash the streets of our nation flow mostly from the bodies of our black children. Yet, as the great debate emerges on the question of the gun, white America discusses the constitutional issues of ownership while no one speaks to the consequences of our racial carnage."

so you believe legislation is what will reduce gun violence in America?

our black children are more under threat from the violent collective mindset that is shared in our culture

vs. focusing on one inanimate object that is seldom misused by law-abiding citizens

those who continue to not give a damn about the black community while expecting to be sheltered just because they were born in it are more of a threat to black children being murdered

we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions

instead of hoping outside groups who've already been known to vicitimize us will one day grow a heart and save us from ourselves SMH

I agree with most of what you said............

However......

Legislation favoring gun restrictions is not looking to an outside group for help...........

Theoretically, American people have local, state and national representatives.........

Seeking change through your legislators is not seeking help from outsiders........

Although it might seem that way..............

Most African Americans (the ones that shoot people) don't get guns from gun stores.........

These weapons are placed strategically in "minority" neighborhoods in order to continue violence..........

(Similar to Iran-Contra)

And yes......

Just legislation will reduce gun violence.............

 

[WhiteShoesATL]

we need to ban all guns and make ninja swords mandatory for all 20 year olds n up

...bring back the art.

 

[I Self Lord & Master]

with america producing arms like them shits is going out of style, a "ban" of any kind would be asinine

them shits will always hit the streets...they are already there. are we really gonna trust that these gun manufacturers all around the countries arent gonna have guns walking out? really?.......i mean REALLY? FUCK THAT

and anyone looking to the government & america's citizens to favor gun banning to help black people are out of touch w/ reality & need to get their heads out there asses. The fucking image of black men is one of the cornerstones of what sells guns out here & the whole pro gun rights rhetoric period. Help aint coming from no where else and the sooner we realize that, the better

 

[blakfyahking]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America................

Has to do with what Harry Belafonte said.............

"The rivers of blood that wash the streets of our nation flow mostly from the bodies of our black children. Yet, as the great debate emerges on the question of the gun, white America discusses the constitutional issues of ownership while no one speaks to the consequences of our racial carnage."

so you believe legislation is what will reduce gun violence in America?

our black children are more under threat from the violent collective mindset that is shared in our culture

vs. focusing on one inanimate object that is seldom misused by law-abiding citizens

those who continue to not give a damn about the black community while expecting to be sheltered just because they were born in it are more of a threat to black children being murdered

we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions

instead of hoping outside groups who've already been known to vicitimize us will one day grow a heart and save us from ourselves SMH

I agree with most of what you said............

However......

Legislation favoring gun restrictions is not looking to an outside group for help...........

Theoretically, American people have local, state and national representatives.........

Seeking change through your legislators is not seeking help from outsiders........

Although it might seem that way..............

Most African Americans (the ones that shoot people) don't get guns from gun stores.........

These weapons are placed strategically in "minority" neighborhoods in order to continue violence..........

(Similar to Iran-Contra)

And yes......

Just legislation will reduce gun violence.............

you are correct @ the bolded/underlined...........but just going to your legislator isn't really enough without also considering that other legislators representing other groups have to vote in favor of these bills too

legislators representing those other constituents who don't give a damn about what's happening in the black community are the same ones that black folks hope will all of a sudden be sympathetic to the black experience

that is a weak solution to depend on, cause we see how it's worked so far

and @ the bolded............how do you not see the gap in your logic?

if most guns that kill people don't come from gun stores or places that perform background checks

what is passing a law that criminalizes responsible owners really going to do but make us all even more vulnerable?

it makes no sense to be in another thread talking about police brutality

but then in another thread we are advocating taking away legal firearms to make us even more reliant on the same govt systems that already don't protect us

Chicago is a perfect example of gun control legislation at work..........yet rational folks can never explain how that situation is really benefiting the black community

would you prefer they start the controversial "stop and frisk" policy in Chicago as well too?

 

[Maximus Rex]

would you prefer they start the controversial "stop and frisk" policy in Chicago as well too?

There's nothing wrong with "stop-and-frisk," per se, however, there's something very wrong when "stop-and-frisk," is used as a means to meet quotas as measurement of police officers production. As far as Chicago goes, those niggas out there are out of control and short of black people collectively having a paradigm shift as far as the way they conduct and live their lives coupled with what they'll tolerate are the only things that will change the situation. Extreme times calls for extreme measures and extreme shit is going on in the Chi.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

lol even with the bill passing.. people will still get guns. and the assault rifles that are sold to the public only let out 3 rounds each shot or something like that. ain't really a gun pro. but Chicago has the toughest gun laws... and look what that did to us...

 

[Drew_Ali]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America................

Has to do with what Harry Belafonte said.............

"The rivers of blood that wash the streets of our nation flow mostly from the bodies of our black children. Yet, as the great debate emerges on the question of the gun, white America discusses the constitutional issues of ownership while no one speaks to the consequences of our racial carnage."

so you believe legislation is what will reduce gun violence in America?

our black children are more under threat from the violent collective mindset that is shared in our culture

vs. focusing on one inanimate object that is seldom misused by law-abiding citizens

those who continue to not give a damn about the black community while expecting to be sheltered just because they were born in it are more of a threat to black children being murdered

we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions

instead of hoping outside groups who've already been known to vicitimize us will one day grow a heart and save us from ourselves SMH

I agree with most of what you said............

However......

Legislation favoring gun restrictions is not looking to an outside group for help...........

Theoretically, American people have local, state and national representatives.........

Seeking change through your legislators is not seeking help from outsiders........

Although it might seem that way..............

Most African Americans (the ones that shoot people) don't get guns from gun stores.........

These weapons are placed strategically in "minority" neighborhoods in order to continue violence..........

(Similar to Iran-Contra)

And yes......

Just legislation will reduce gun violence.............

you are correct @ the bolded/underlined...........but just going to your legislator isn't really enough without also considering that other legislators representing other groups have to vote in favor of these bills too

legislators representing those other constituents who don't give a damn about what's happening in the black community are the same ones that black folks hope will all of a sudden be sympathetic to the black experience

that is a weak solution to depend on, cause we see how it's worked so far

and @ the bolded............how do you not see the gap in your logic?

if most guns that kill people don't come from gun stores or places that perform background checks

what is passing a law that criminalizes responsible owners really going to do but make us all even more vulnerable?

it makes no sense to be in another thread talking about police brutality

but then in another thread we are advocating taking away legal firearms to make us even more reliant on the same govt systems that already don't protect us

Chicago is a perfect example of gun control legislation at work..........yet rational folks can never explain how that situation is really benefiting the black community

would you prefer they start the controversial "stop and frisk" policy in Chicago as well too?

Nah brother........

I am not on it like that..........

I am a gun owner and don't want my rights interfered on either.....

Legislation that I support goes beyond background checks and targets manufacturing and distribution........

Also the control of guns confiscated by law enforcement agencies......

Remember "Fast & Furious".......

They have been doing that shit in our hoods for decades............

You right about facing the opposition of big money lobbyists and such......

However......

As you stated earlier....... "we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions"......

When this happens our legislators have to pay more attention........

 

[Swiffness!]

meanwhile......

Politicians in Washington are pushing to curb violent video games after a Daily News report revealed Newtown killer Adam Lanza’s lust for slaughter jumped from his TV screen to real life.

A day after columnist Mike Lupica broke the story on the violent video game obsession that apparently prompted Lanza to try to “score” a high body count in the Connecticut shooting rampage, politicians were moving to stop the madness.

Read more:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-lanza-report-article-1.1292402#ixzz2OB24HU00

 

[janklow]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America...

mostly i enjoy police officers declaring how they've reduced crime heavily while simultaneously declaring we need to ban guns because they face an explosive of violence

the ACTUAL legislation that will address this? END THE FUCKING DRUG WAR

and the assault rifles that are sold to the public only let out 3 rounds each shot or something like that.

"assault rifles" sold to the public are strictly semi-automatic. no select-fire options

i mean, we can go down the rabbit hole here and discuss the specifics of the way select-fire firearms are regulated in the US if people REALLY want to, but the preceding statement covers it

 

[blakfyahking]

would you prefer they start the controversial "stop and frisk" policy in Chicago as well too?

There's nothing wrong with "stop-and-frisk," per se, however, there's something very wrong when "stop-and-frisk," is used as a means to meet quotas as measurement of police officers production. As far as Chicago goes, those niggas out there are out of control and short of black people collectively having a paradigm shift as far as the way they conduct and live their lives coupled with what they'll tolerate are the only things that will change the situation. Extreme times calls for extreme measures and extreme shit is going on in the Chi.

bruh are you serious?

you don't see nothing wrong with police having the right to just stop you and search/question you without a legitimate reason to believe you might have participated in/committed a crime?

so you cool with walking out with your fam and just having cops walk up on you expecting you to explain yourself for no reason?

I agree that there needs to be a collective mindset of change in the black community............but I'm not willing to cosign stop and frisk as a policy just because I live as a law abiding citizen

cause where do we draw the line to where cops have to remember that they work for the citizens and not the other way around?

 

[blakfyahking]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America................

Has to do with what Harry Belafonte said.............

"The rivers of blood that wash the streets of our nation flow mostly from the bodies of our black children. Yet, as the great debate emerges on the question of the gun, white America discusses the constitutional issues of ownership while no one speaks to the consequences of our racial carnage."

so you believe legislation is what will reduce gun violence in America?

our black children are more under threat from the violent collective mindset that is shared in our culture

vs. focusing on one inanimate object that is seldom misused by law-abiding citizens

those who continue to not give a damn about the black community while expecting to be sheltered just because they were born in it are more of a threat to black children being murdered

we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions

instead of hoping outside groups who've already been known to vicitimize us will one day grow a heart and save us from ourselves SMH

I agree with most of what you said............

However......

Legislation favoring gun restrictions is not looking to an outside group for help...........

Theoretically, American people have local, state and national representatives.........

Seeking change through your legislators is not seeking help from outsiders........

Although it might seem that way..............

Most African Americans (the ones that shoot people) don't get guns from gun stores.........

These weapons are placed strategically in "minority" neighborhoods in order to continue violence..........

(Similar to Iran-Contra)

And yes......

Just legislation will reduce gun violence.............

you are correct @ the bolded/underlined...........but just going to your legislator isn't really enough without also considering that other legislators representing other groups have to vote in favor of these bills too

legislators representing those other constituents who don't give a damn about what's happening in the black community are the same ones that black folks hope will all of a sudden be sympathetic to the black experience

that is a weak solution to depend on, cause we see how it's worked so far

and @ the bolded............how do you not see the gap in your logic?

if most guns that kill people don't come from gun stores or places that perform background checks

what is passing a law that criminalizes responsible owners really going to do but make us all even more vulnerable?

it makes no sense to be in another thread talking about police brutality

but then in another thread we are advocating taking away legal firearms to make us even more reliant on the same govt systems that already don't protect us

Chicago is a perfect example of gun control legislation at work..........yet rational folks can never explain how that situation is really benefiting the black community

would you prefer they start the controversial "stop and frisk" policy in Chicago as well too?

Nah brother........

I am not on it like that..........

I am a gun owner and don't want my rights interfered on either.....

Legislation that I support goes beyond background checks and targets manufacturing and distribution........

Also the control of guns confiscated by law enforcement agencies......

Remember "Fast & Furious".......

They have been doing that shit in our hoods for decades............

You right about facing the opposition of big money lobbyists and such......

However......

As you stated earlier....... "we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions"......

When this happens our legislators have to pay more attention........

I agree that the bolded has made a negative impact in our community

but legislation still isn't going to stop that

the problem isn't the supply of guns

the problem is that we turn and use them on each other...........cause the minute we start using them shits to protect ourselves from outsiders, then it will be a real problem haha

 

[janklow]

you don't see nothing wrong with police having the right to just stop you and search/question you without a legitimate reason to believe you might have participated in/committed a crime?

i THINK --and Maximus Rex can correct me-- that what he's trying to say is that if it's done properly by someone without ill intentions, it would be fine, so presumably cases where you do have a legitimate reason to stop someone?

...but then even communism works in theory

 

[Maximus Rex]

would you prefer they start the controversial "stop and frisk" policy in Chicago as well too?

There's nothing wrong with "stop-and-frisk," per se, however, there's something very wrong when "stop-and-frisk," is used as a means to meet quotas as measurement of police officers production. As far as Chicago goes, those niggas out there are out of control and short of black people collectively having a paradigm shift as far as the way they conduct and live their lives coupled with what they'll tolerate are the only things that will change the situation. Extreme times calls for extreme measures and extreme shit is going on in the Chi.

bruh are you serious?

you don't see nothing wrong with police having the right to just stop you and search/question you without a legitimate reason to believe you might have participated in/committed a crime?

so you cool with walking out with your fam and just having cops walk up on you expecting you to explain yourself for no reason?

I agree that there needs to be a collective mindset of change in the black community............but I'm willing to cosign stop and frisk as a policy just because I live as a law abiding citizen

cause where do we draw the line to where cops have to remember that work for the citizens and not the other way around?

you don't see nothing wrong with police having the right to just stop you and search/question you without a legitimate reason to believe you might have participated in/committed a crime?

i THINK --and Maximus Rex can correct me-- that what he's trying to say is that if it's done properly by someone without ill intentions, it would be fine, so presumably cases where you do have a legitimate reason to stop someone?

...but then even communism works in theory

^^^^ What dude said. Knowing how y'all niggas don't like to read, I'll try and be as brief as possible. Contrary to popular belief, it's unconstitutional for the police to stop and you. They have to have "reasonable suspicion." This precedent was established under Terry v Ohio. Where NYPD got into trouble is that they have "production numbers," i.e. quotas. they have to produce every month to show that they're doing something when they're out on patrol. This causes a problem for us, because it's in our communities where the crime is taking place and it goes back to my original argument, if crime is greatly reduced in our neighborhoods, then we can ask, why are the police there if the crime rate is low?

When profiling is used in conjunction with other crime fighting techniques, it can be quite effective, the FBI does it

all the time, but when profiling and stop-and-frisk is used solely as a means to prove that you're being productive on the street, that's when the problems incur.

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

both sides of this debate are fucked up. The liberal legislators who wanna cover their ass by passing some bill as a result of some tragedy to make it seem like it will do shit is wrong. The gun ho NRA is wrong cause they do whatever it takes to spread fear into gunaholics like the government is going to take away their guns in the middle of the night.

All i know is ain't no bushmasters killing niggas in chiraq so banning assault weapons wont do shit. I know niggas who are from newtown and my church held a funeral for Ana Marquez-Greene who died shit was terrible. But as a country we need to think of real solutions that aren't words in a law book but actions that will change things. Im not entirely sure what those actions are but we need to continue to look deeper from all sides.

 

[Maximus Rex]

The gun ho NRA is wrong cause they do whatever it takes to spread fear into gunaholics like the government is going to take away their guns in the middle of the night.

The government will take your guns, that's why I'm so proud of those NRA niggas. Instead of bitchin' out they dug in their heels, stood firm, and killed this bullshit. I always used the analogy of smoking in public places. At first smoking bans started off as "common sense," legislation, now you have a situation (e.g. New York City,) where a nigga can't smoke in the park or on the beach. Some places like Oakland are really doing the fool, you can't smoke at ANYWHERE in public. The NRA knows this, they know if they give one issue, (no matter how sensible it may be,) it will only encourage the opposition to press forward on other gun control measures which will eventually lead to the Second Amendment being overturned.

 

[kingblaze84]

These niggas have no intention to reduce gun violence in America................

Has to do with what Harry Belafonte said.............

"The rivers of blood that wash the streets of our nation flow mostly from the bodies of our black children. Yet, as the great debate emerges on the question of the gun, white America discusses the constitutional issues of ownership while no one speaks to the consequences of our racial carnage."

so you believe legislation is what will reduce gun violence in America?

our black children are more under threat from the violent collective mindset that is shared in our culture

vs. focusing on one inanimate object that is seldom misused by law-abiding citizens

those who continue to not give a damn about the black community while expecting to be sheltered just because they were born in it are more of a threat to black children being murdered

we need to start holding ourselves accountable/and find our own solutions

instead of hoping outside groups who've already been known to vicitimize us will one day grow a heart and save us from ourselves SMH

BAM!!!! Black people have to stop whining and crying about outside groups who don't care what happens in the Black community. When we learn to take responsibility for our own communities, outside people will take us more seriously. Banning assault weapons will only make it easier for outside groups that hate Black people to harm us.

 

[kingblaze84]

The gun ho NRA is wrong cause they do whatever it takes to spread fear into gunaholics like the government is going to take away their guns in the middle of the night.

The government will take your guns, that's why I'm so proud of those NRA niggas. Instead of bitchin' out they dug in their heels, stood firm, and killed this bullshit. I always used the analogy of smoking in public places. At first smoking bans started off as "common sense," legislation, now you have a situation (e.g. New York City,) where a nigga can't smoke in the park or on the beach. Some places like Oakland are really doing the fool, you can't smoke at ANYWHERE in public. The NRA knows this, they know if they give one issue, (no matter how sensible it may be,) it will only encourage the opposition to press forward on other gun control measures which will eventually lead to the Second Amendment being overturned.

Amen brotha.....I gained a lot of respect for the NRA this month

 

[loch121]

I was trying to get rid of some old TVs and some other shit I didn't need so I figured I'd try to pawn it b4 I threw it away.

I go in this pawn shop that looked like where Marsellus Washington got raped

they told me the didn't need my shit.They all strapped w/ guns on the waist ban like cowboys.Straight rednecks w/ a pawn shop in the hood.

They got this 40 that looks like a chopper.I was asking what it was and he said it was a 40 and said "but there about to go up in price because of goddamn Obama and them"

they were salty and ready to shoot me and any nigga