As long as the VILLIAN wins.

[zombie]

The Bible God is a very evil upset man. He gets mad at his creation. A Perfect God that cannot seem to create a perfect species. He failed with the Angels. he failed with humans. And he failed with he himself as his son.

He creates man then man fucks up he kills man. Over and Over.

It makes you wonder what lucifer found out about God and why God never killed lucifer. Humans do not need a devil to be evil so lucifer/Satan/the devil is useless.

In the old testament God order all the killings all the evil shit. Not once did a Satan/lucifer/devil act alone without the consent of the Bible God.

You are confused. All the god ordered old testament killing were good all of them. it is because we were originally made perfect that we fell into sin it is the reason why lucifer fell into it as well. freewill is part of that perfection free will creates the chance of sin and the result of sin is death. You cannot blame god for destroying men who sin it's like being mad at the water for being wet.

Made perfect yet fell into sin? That's not perfect. And you can blame when he's suppose to be omniscient omnipotent omnipresent.

If the Bible God is real then that means EVERYTHING came from him. The evil shit too. Lucifer was his idea and he created humans just watch them suffer.

Can lucifer/Satan/devil quit?

Your meaning of perfection is wrong, we have choice that was part of our original design without it we would be like animals, slaves to our instincts and unthinking about them. Lucifer was god's idea but god did not make lucifer evil. Good and evil are not rocks metals or even fire, things that can be created, but states of being that a created thing can exist in.

Like the angels, man has the choice to remain in God's presence, to remain good this is illustrated by the adam and eve story. Unlike the angels, man has the choice to switch back and forth between good and evil until the end of his life. unlike angels we are not eternally damned. The tree is allegory for the conscious decision made by man to remain in the state of good, or to leave God's presence and change states to evil. man, can be good at times and evil at times. Once we leave this temporary existence we can no longer change states back and forth. We either are good for all eternity in the presence of god in Heaven or we are evil for all eternity in Hell away from the presence of god. The eternal decision made by man as to be in Heaven or Hell is made while he is still mortal. Once we become immortal, we can no longer change our state.

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

we have choice that was part of our original design

According to the bible this is false. Either you haven't read the book or your doing like everyone else and altering it to fit your own ideas and agenda. According to the book had it not been for the serpent man would not have any knowledge of good or evil. Man was meant to be sheep.

Where is the scripture that supports all of that BS you posted?

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

 

[zombie]

we have choice that was part of our original design

According to the bible this is false. Either you haven't read the book or your doing like everyone else and altering it to fit your own ideas and agenda. According to the book had it not been for the serpent man would not have any knowledge of good or evil. Man was meant to be sheep.

Where is the scripture that supports all of that BS you posted?

No that is your misunderstanding of the book.

Man has always had the ability to choose between good and evil Man was placed in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:15). God also placed the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden (Genesis 2:9). God commanded man not to eat from this tree (Genesis 2:17). This was the choice that man had to make: be good and not eat from the tree or be evil and eat from the tree. The choice was always there, ONCE AGAIN FREEWILL. This was before they ate the apple freewill existed in and after eden. eve did not have to obey the serpent she chose too.

In Genesis 1:4, "God saw that the light was good." In verse 10, "God called the dry land 'earth' and the mass of waters 'seas,' and God saw that it was good." In verse 12, "The earth produced vegetation: plants bearing seed in their several kinds, and trees bearing fruit with their seed inside in there several kinds. God saw that is was good." In verses 18, 21, and 25, God repeatedly declares what he created "was good." Verse 31 goes further to say that all that God created "was very good." As well, 1 Timothy 4:4 says, "Everything God has created is good." Nowhere in Scripture does it say that God created good, only that what God created "was good" or "is good." What God created was good, but good itself was not created. Only god is good and god was not created. Mark 10:18. Do you understand ? No where in the bible does an angel change from good to bad and then back to good again. only we do that.

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

They had no knowledge of good or bad before eating from the tree. Like animals, they just did shit.

This new found knowledge scared God so he kicked them out before they could eat from the tree of life and become gods like him/them.

 

[zombie]

They had no knowledge of good or bad before eating from the tree. Like animals, they just did shit.

This new found knowledge scared God so he kicked them out before they could eat from the tree of life and become gods like him/them.

You are wrong to not obey god is evil i quoted the bible for you and explained it and you still go on in your willfull misunderstanding. Adam and eve had a nature in which they had a choice to sin or not too ,after the fall we now live in a nature where it is almost impossible not to sin. Christ makes us clean after sin, so god in essence gave us soap so we can clean ourselves so that the normal result of sin which is death does not fall on us. Nothing scares god you can anger him but never scare him. You don't know what the hell you are talking about and the hate you have for the concept god is based on ignorance. Your argument is getting weaker and weaker.

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

And I quote God (not give my personal opinion)

Genesis 3:22

22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Key words: HAS NOW BECOME

Your God has spoken.

 

[CockMcStuffins]

Ezekiel 23:20 NASB

She lusted after their paramours, whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys and whose issue is like the issue of horses.

Pause at telling niggas "give me my issue" back in the day

 

[unRealLady1]

see god knew that some of you would sell your soul for the winning side. He knew that some of you didnt love him, you only loved god because you thought he was the winner. so he allows evil to look like the winner to capture all the fakes that will sell their soul because it looks like evil is winning. Evil is not winning, it's television programing thats deluding you to think so.

See what happens to every messiah is that they are zealous to save souls, until they see that the people want to be evil, so then they stop sending the message because they realize they are talking to dry bones. This is when the ones like yourself think the messiah has turned his back on his ppl. It’s not that.... it’s that the messiah turns his back on those who turn evil. The messiah realizes that because the people do not want to be saved they will only make him loose his soul. He gets smarter, and realize that the message is only for those who want to hear the truth. & then the messiah realizes he can’t really save anyone, because everyone is here to save themselves!

 

[zombie]

And I quote God (not give my personal opinion)

Genesis 3:22

22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Key words: HAS NOW BECOME

Your God has spoken.

Yes god has spoken but you have not understood

Before the apple adam and eve knew about evil only by way of warning not to eat. If someone told you not to eat shit because it taste bad, that would form one understanding in your mind, if you went ahead and ate shit you would have a deeper understanding in mind (as well as suffer the effects). They did not understand cause and effect they just knew what was good and what was bad and there was only one thing that was bad eating the apple.They chose to do it anyway. Thus declaring what is good and evil for themselves, rather than acknowledging God, adama and eve made themselves as God, being the measure of all things, deciding for themselves all things. When we make the rules for ourselves rather than listen to what God says, we commit the same sin adam and eve did.

What it's saying is that Adam and Eve rejected God's autonomy when it comes to declaring what is right and wrong, good and evil. Adam and Eve set themselves up as their own little gods, essentially saying, we're going to decide what is right and wrong, good and evil. That is only gods job. You have to put the words in context

They only knew right from wrong as what was told to them, the apple let them decide for themselves. Once you can do decided what is wrong you become like god.

I gave you lots of quotes you should try reading them.

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

And I quote God (not give my personal opinion)

Genesis 3:22

22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Key words: HAS NOW BECOME

Your God has spoken.

Yes god has spoken but you have not understood

Before the apple adam and eve knew about evil only by way of warning not to eat. If someone told you not to eat shit because it taste bad, that would form one understanding in your mind, if you went ahead and ate shit you would have a deeper understanding in mind (as well as suffer the effects). They did not understand cause and effect they just knew what was good and what was bad and there was only one thing that was bad eating the apple.They chose to do it anyway. Thus declaring what is good and evil for themselves, rather than acknowledging God, adama and eve made themselves as God, being the measure of all things, deciding for themselves all things. When we make the rules for ourselves rather than listen to what God says, we commit the same sin adam and eve did.

What it's saying is that Adam and Eve rejected God's autonomy when it comes to declaring what is right and wrong, good and evil. Adam and Eve set themselves up as their own little gods, essentially saying, we're going to decide what is right and wrong, good and evil. That is only gods job. You have to put the words in context

They only knew right from wrong as what was told to them, the apple let them decide for themselves. Once you can do decided what is wrong you become like god.

I gave you lots of quotes you should try reading them.

Your not debate me, your debating your gods word.

It clearly showed that they had no knowledge of good or evil. They didn't know if the serpent was good or evil either. They was not at fault and a superior god should have understood that.

 

[zombie]

And I quote God (not give my personal opinion)

Genesis 3:22

22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Key words: HAS NOW BECOME

Your God has spoken.

Yes god has spoken but you have not understood

Before the apple adam and eve knew about evil only by way of warning not to eat. If someone told you not to eat shit because it taste bad, that would form one understanding in your mind, if you went ahead and ate shit you would have a deeper understanding in mind (as well as suffer the effects). They did not understand cause and effect they just knew what was good and what was bad and there was only one thing that was bad eating the apple.They chose to do it anyway. Thus declaring what is good and evil for themselves, rather than acknowledging God, adama and eve made themselves as God, being the measure of all things, deciding for themselves all things. When we make the rules for ourselves rather than listen to what God says, we commit the same sin adam and eve did.

What it's saying is that Adam and Eve rejected God's autonomy when it comes to declaring what is right and wrong, good and evil. Adam and Eve set themselves up as their own little gods, essentially saying, we're going to decide what is right and wrong, good and evil. That is only gods job. You have to put the words in context

They only knew right from wrong as what was told to them, the apple let them decide for themselves. Once you can do decided what is wrong you become like god.

I gave you lots of quotes you should try reading them.

Your not debate me, your debating your gods word.

It clearly showed that they had no knowledge of good or evil. They didn't know if the serpent was good or evil either. They was not at fault and a superior god should have understood that.

I understand my gods word you do not you are the one with the problem. The serpent being evil or not is irrevelent god told them not to do something and they still chose not to obey. So they knew beforehand it was wrong. Why don't you simply admit you have no idea what I'm saying?

I realize you think that the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge was some kind of magic "pill of knowing all things good and all things evil", which in a way it actually is in that the only discriminator between good and evil is whether one acts with or against the instructions of God, but the simple fact is that Eve and Adam had a full understanding of good and evil before they partook of the fruit, but they hadn't EXPERIENCED the KNOWLEDGE ("knowledge" in the biblical sense of "being with" or "experiencing" as a man has "knowledge" of a woman) of evil yet, which they suddenly experienced (knew) upon "eating of the fruit", whereby they also suddenly "knew" what good was in contrast to their new found evil behavior.

Your rather juvenile view that they were little "kids" is utterly baseless, and makes sense only promoting your view that God is an idiot. Of course, your god would LOVE to have people think God is an idiot. They knew obey or die. GEN 2: 15-17, God told them. Once they disobeyed, then they knew DEATH

 

[zombie]

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[zombie]

I understand my gods word you do not you are the one with the problem. The serpent being evil or not is irrevelent god told them not to do something and they still chose not to obey. So they knew beforehand it was wrong. Why don't you simply admit you have no idea what I'm saying?

I realize you think that the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge was some kind of magic "pill of knowing all things good and all things evil", which in a way it actually is in that the only discriminator between good and evil is whether one acts with or against the instructions of God, but the simple fact is that Eve and Adam had a full understanding of good and evil before they partook of the fruit, but they hadn't EXPERIENCED the KNOWLEDGE ("knowledge" in the biblical sense of "being with" or "experiencing" as a man has "knowledge" of a woman) of evil yet, which they suddenly experienced (knew) upon "eating of the fruit", whereby they also suddenly "knew" what good was in contrast to their new found evil behavior.

Your rather juvenile view that they were little "kids" is utterly baseless, and makes sense only promoting your view that God is an idiot. Of course, your god would LOVE to have people think God is an idiot. They knew obey or die. GEN 2: 15-17, God told them. Once they disobeyed, then they knew DEATH. I HAVE USED scripture to prove my point you have not proven yours. You don't read the bible enough to have an intelligent debate with me

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

They couldn't have know it was wrong. They didn't have the knowledge to determine that. The scripture clear states that. They didn't know to not obey was wrong.

 

[zombie]

And I quote God (not give my personal opinion)

Genesis 3:22

22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Key words: HAS NOW BECOME

Your God has spoken.

Yes god has spoken but you have not understood

Before the apple adam and eve knew about evil only by way of warning not to eat. If someone told you not to eat shit because it taste bad, that would form one understanding in your mind, if you went ahead and ate shit you would have a deeper understanding in mind (as well as suffer the effects). They did not understand cause and effect they just knew what was good and what was bad and there was only one thing that was bad eating the apple.They chose to do it anyway. Thus declaring what is good and evil for themselves, rather than acknowledging God, adama and eve made themselves as God, being the measure of all things, deciding for themselves all things. When we make the rules for ourselves rather than listen to what God says, we commit the same sin adam and eve did.

What it's saying is that Adam and Eve rejected God's autonomy when it comes to declaring what is right and wrong, good and evil. Adam and Eve set themselves up as their own little gods, essentially saying, we're going to decide what is right and wrong, good and evil. That is only gods job. You have to put the words in context

They only knew right from wrong as what was told to them, the apple let them decide for themselves. Once you can do decided what is wrong you become like god.

I gave you lots of quotes you should try reading them.

Your not debate me, your debating your gods word.

It clearly showed that they had no knowledge of good or evil. They didn't know if the serpent was good or evil either. They was not at fault and a superior god should have understood that.

The tree was named the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil, where "knowledge" means "experience of".

Before the fall, man knew what good was, because it was simply the environment he existed in. He also knew, abstractly, what evil was because he knew that evil must be something that isn't good, as God made it known to man that evil existed in contradistinction to good when He said "..the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil you shall not eat.." (which specifically counterposed good with evil).

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

GEN 2: 15-17, God told them. Once they disobeyed, then they knew DEATH

But they didn't die until 100s of years later and it wasn't like they was going to live forever prior to eating the fruit.

 

[zombie]

GEN 2: 15-17, God told them. Once they disobeyed, then they knew DEATH

But they didn't die until 100s of years later and it wasn't like they was going to live forever prior to eating the fruit.

You simple mined child it does not matter when they died they died and that is the point. They did not die instantly because god has mercy. YES THEY WOULD HAVE LIVED FOREVER. Death only came to man because of sin.

romans 5: 12

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

Not they would not have lived forever! Same verse

Genesis 3:22

22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Had they eating from the tree of life then yes they would have lived forever.

So with knowledge of good and evil and immortality man could've been Gods.

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]