Arrow (CW)

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VulcanRaven;c-9627600 said:
My main issue is they are making it seem like anyone can just be a crime fighter. Shit hurts the actual heroes.

With kid flash and other speedsters, Barry loses his uniqueness. Arrow doesn't look impressive with people like Curtis (though he gets his ass beat) and Mad Dog just being able to run along side him like Diggle did.

Super Girl's power looks weaker when she needs Mon-El to help when previously she fought more powerful enemies by herself outside of when kryptonite was used.

These extra characters don't add anything of value. Ragman has different abilities, but he is kept in the base. They are not fully developed on screen like their comic counter parts.

Thea and Roy actually had character and training development and now everything seems rushed.

At least these dc shows haven't jump the shark yet by making somebody like Iris a crime fighter ...I guess they learned their lesson after how badly the Laurel Lance character became the black canary and mess things up with that

 
VulcanRaven;c-9636178 said:
deadeye;c-9636108 said:
The show needs to be consistent with the storylines too.

If Talia trained Ollie, he shouldn't have gotten destroyed by Ra's Al Ghul the first time they fought.

Only thing that would make sense was if Ra's recognized all of his moves because he taught them to Talia, but that season it was made to seem like Ollie was no match for Ra's because he didn't have any League training.

However, none of that makes sense anymore if Talia trained Ollie to fight.



But yeah, I agree with everyone else here.

This Team Arrow with the rookies is bringing down the quality of the show.

It should either be just Ollie and Diggle...........or Ollie, Diggle, Thea, and Roy.

Still never understood why Curtis is even in the field when his main strength is tech support......not fighting.

I didn't even remember that. You are right. These flashbacks just keep adding plot holes instead of something useful. every season they show Ollie's past where he was i an impossible situation but managed to make it out without having McGuyver's wit lol. I don't even pay attention to the flashbacks anymore so I am not even understanding this whole Bratva shit. What value would Talia see on Ollie anyway?

usually the past shit ties into the present so prometheus probably got something to do with the Bratva.

 
VulcanRaven;c-9636178 said:
deadeye;c-9636108 said:
The show needs to be consistent with the storylines too.

If Talia trained Ollie, he shouldn't have gotten destroyed by Ra's Al Ghul the first time they fought.

Only thing that would make sense was if Ra's recognized all of his moves because he taught them to Talia, but that season it was made to seem like Ollie was no match for Ra's because he didn't have any League training.

However, none of that makes sense anymore if Talia trained Ollie to fight.



But yeah, I agree with everyone else here.

This Team Arrow with the rookies is bringing down the quality of the show.

It should either be just Ollie and Diggle...........or Ollie, Diggle, Thea, and Roy.

Still never understood why Curtis is even in the field when his main strength is tech support......not fighting.

I didn't even remember that. You are right. These flashbacks just keep adding plot holes instead of something useful. every season they show Ollie's past where he was i an impossible situation but managed to make it out without having McGuyver's wit lol. I don't even pay attention to the flashbacks anymore so I am not even understanding this whole Bratva shit. What value would Talia see on Ollie anyway?

The flashbacks have actually gotten better this year......a lot better than they've been the past couple of seasons.

Talia tracked Ollie because the old asian guy from the island of the first Season was one of her students.

Guess we'll find out more as the season goes along.
 
lord nemesis;c-9636891 said:
Did this nigga just absorb a nuclear blast?

The rags are magic. Speaking of which the show needs a Ragman/Constantine team up.

I'm feeling Black Canary. For the first time in the history of this show the character feels right. She's supposed to be Ollie's rock not his damsel in distress.
 
texasdaking88;c-9638115 said:
lord nemesis;c-9636891 said:
Did this nigga just absorb a nuclear blast?

Another reason to ask.... Why does he need them again??

He always works with the batfamily in the comics. I guess it's too pay tribute to that since this Green Arrow is really just surrogate Batman.
 
Broddie;c-9639448 said:
texasdaking88;c-9638115 said:
lord nemesis;c-9636891 said:
Did this nigga just absorb a nuclear blast?

Another reason to ask.... Why does he need them again??

He always works with the batfamily in the comics. I guess it's too pay tribute to that since this Green Arrow is really just surrogate Batman.

This the feeling I get. None of Batman's strengths and tons of weakness. How is GA in the comics compared to this show?

 
VulcanRaven;c-9639876 said:
Broddie;c-9639448 said:
texasdaking88;c-9638115 said:
lord nemesis;c-9636891 said:
Did this nigga just absorb a nuclear blast?

Another reason to ask.... Why does he need them again??

He always works with the batfamily in the comics. I guess it's too pay tribute to that since this Green Arrow is really just surrogate Batman.

This the feeling I get. None of Batman's strengths and tons of weakness. How is GA in the comics compared to this show?

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He not the detective or hand to hand fighter as Bats, truth is Black Canary is better hand to hand fighter, they never got her right though Sara was close. This new Canary if she can up her fight skills maybe fuller package.

He's a Social Justice Warrior who kills. His origins have been done many times but most follow same premise. Honestly he is like Bats in certain respects..Had an Arrow Cave, Arrow Car and decent number of folks in the arrow family Roy Harper, Connor Hawke, Mia aka Speedy, Emiko Queen, John Diggle..

Imo there a reason Season 1 & 2 of Arrow still best seasons lots of influences of Mike Grell green arrow.

Though Mike Grell Green Arrow run had nudity, curse words, racial issues, police brutality issues etc not suitable for CW.

CW pretty much replaced Green Lantern Hal Jordan with Barry Allen Flash in terms of friendships and teaming up.
 
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