Arrow (CW)

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SuperManuel;c-9627424 said:
i'm missed last night but i'm binge watching on Netflix. I think the show needs to go back to being just arrow and diggle. the only character I like is ragman mad dog and mr terrific are useless. the only show that should have a team presence is legends. to many heroes cheapens it. kid flash and vibe are cool though. I wish red arrow(roy) would come back.

Only thing is ragman just be at the base chatty patting with Felicity like he her girlfriend lol

I agree with everything else though. DC shows all have the same formula and I seen Jimmy on Super Girl fighting crime now in some generic costume lol. Each show needs it's own vibe (no) pun and formula, like Flash and Arrow had the first seasons. All 4 shows seem like one show now.
 
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VulcanRaven;c-9627458 said:
SuperManuel;c-9627424 said:
i'm missed last night but i'm binge watching on Netflix. I think the show needs to go back to being just arrow and diggle. the only character I like is ragman mad dog and mr terrific are useless. the only show that should have a team presence is legends. to many heroes cheapens it. kid flash and vibe are cool though. I wish red arrow(roy) would come back.

Only thing is ragman just be at the base chatty patting with Felicity like he her girlfriend lol

I agree with everything else though. DC sgiws all have tge same formula and I seen Jimmy on Super Girl fighting crime now in some generic costume lol. Each show needs it's own vibe (no) pun and formula, like Flash and Arrow had the first seasons. All 4 shows seem like one show now.

I guess they just want to build a cw verse with a lot of heroes honestly I thought legends would be the tip of the iceberg. the opening scene with the justice society fighting those Nazi's and jsa vs legends was dope. what I like about ragman is his power and the way they use it in fight scenens
 
My main issue is they are making it seem like anyone can just be a crime fighter. Shit hurts the actual heroes.

With kid flash and other speedsters, Barry loses his uniqueness. Arrow doesn't look impressive with people like Curtis (though he gets his ass beat) and Mad Dog just being able to run along side him like Diggle did.

Super Girl's power looks weaker when she needs Mon-El to help when previously she fought more powerful enemies by herself outside of when kryptonite was used.

These extra characters don't add anything of value. Ragman has different abilities, but he is kept in the base. They are not fully developed on screen like their comic counter parts.

Thea and Roy actually had character and training development and now everything seems rushed.
 
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VulcanRaven;c-9627600 said:
My main issue is they are making it seem like anyone can just be a crime fighter. Shit hurts the actual heroes.

With kid flash and other speedsters, Barry loses his uniqueness. Arrow doesn't look impressive with people like Curtis (though he gets his ass beat) and Mad Dog just being able to run along side him like Diggle did.

Super Girl's power looks weaker when she needs Mon-El to help when previously she fought more powerful enemies by herself outside of when kryptonite was used.

These extra characters don't add anything of value. Ragman has different abilities, but he is kept in the base. They are not fully developed on screen like their comic counter parts.

Thea and Roy actually had character and training development and now everything seems rushed.

What I don't like is how ragman was beating everybody ass with ease when he first showed up but now he needs them for what, exactly??
 
TheBossman;c-9627377 said:
I'm thinking prometheus is talia....?

But that episode was good. Great action scenes.

im rewatching the episode now...they have the same dialect and she been keeping watch over Ollie ever since he been on that island .... I gotta second that assumption
 
Yeah I hate mr fag and wild dog

Ragman is cool, think ill like the new canary too
 
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I'm guessing Wild dog shoot non lethal rounds but then that just makes him another Diggle. Mr Turrible just another felicity

I agree that they should go back to just arrow and diggle, too many useless ppl on the team
 
texasdaking88;c-9627721 said:
VulcanRaven;c-9627600 said:
My main issue is they are making it seem like anyone can just be a crime fighter. Shit hurts the actual heroes.

With kid flash and other speedsters, Barry loses his uniqueness. Arrow doesn't look impressive with people like Curtis (though he gets his ass beat) and Mad Dog just being able to run along side him like Diggle did.

Super Girl's power looks weaker when she needs Mon-El to help when previously she fought more powerful enemies by herself outside of when kryptonite was used.

These extra characters don't add anything of value. Ragman has different abilities, but he is kept in the base. They are not fully developed on screen like their comic counter parts.

Thea and Roy actually had character and training development and now everything seems rushed.

What I don't like is how ragman was beating everybody ass with ease when he first showed up but now he needs them for what, exactly??

lol Right. He came in like Kane and then got dumbed down
 
The show needs to be consistent with the storylines too.

If Talia trained Ollie, he shouldn't have gotten destroyed by Ra's Al Ghul the first time they fought.

Only thing that would make sense was if Ra's recognized all of his moves because he taught them to Talia, but that season it was made to seem like Ollie was no match for Ra's because he didn't have any League training.

However, none of that makes sense anymore if Talia trained Ollie to fight.

But yeah, I agree with everyone else here.

This Team Arrow with the rookies is bringing down the quality of the show.

It should either be just Ollie and Diggle...........or Ollie, Diggle, Thea, and Roy.

Still never understood why Curtis is even in the field when his main strength is tech support......not fighting.
 
deadeye;c-9636108 said:
The show needs to be consistent with the storylines too.

If Talia trained Ollie, he shouldn't have gotten destroyed by Ra's Al Ghul the first time they fought.

Only thing that would make sense was if Ra's recognized all of his moves because he taught them to Talia, but that season it was made to seem like Ollie was no match for Ra's because he didn't have any League training.

However, none of that makes sense anymore if Talia trained Ollie to fight.



But yeah, I agree with everyone else here.

This Team Arrow with the rookies is bringing down the quality of the show.

It should either be just Ollie and Diggle...........or Ollie, Diggle, Thea, and Roy.

Still never understood why Curtis is even in the field when his main strength is tech support......not fighting.

I didn't even remember that. You are right. These flashbacks just keep adding plot holes instead of something useful. every season they show Ollie's past where he was i an impossible situation but managed to make it out without having McGuyver's wit lol. I don't even pay attention to the flashbacks anymore so I am not even understanding this whole Bratva shit. What value would Talia see on Ollie anyway?
 
VulcanRaven;c-9636178 said:
deadeye;c-9636108 said:
The show needs to be consistent with the storylines too.

If Talia trained Ollie, he shouldn't have gotten destroyed by Ra's Al Ghul the first time they fought.

Only thing that would make sense was if Ra's recognized all of his moves because he taught them to Talia, but that season it was made to seem like Ollie was no match for Ra's because he didn't have any League training.

However, none of that makes sense anymore if Talia trained Ollie to fight.



But yeah, I agree with everyone else here.

This Team Arrow with the rookies is bringing down the quality of the show.

It should either be just Ollie and Diggle...........or Ollie, Diggle, Thea, and Roy.

Still never understood why Curtis is even in the field when his main strength is tech support......not fighting.

I didn't even remember that. You are right. These flashbacks just keep adding plot holes instead of something useful. every season they show Ollie's past where he was i an impossible situation but managed to make it out without having McGuyver's wit lol. I don't even pay attention to the flashbacks anymore so I am not even understanding this whole Bratva shit. What value would Talia see on Ollie anyway?

Pretty much the same as Batman a future leader for The League.
 

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