Are Jay-Z and Nas responsible for the current state of hip-hop

[skpjr78]

LOL. Their music was ass tho.

i think gay-z and wu tang music is ass. whats ur point?

 

[Stew]

Not all of it

Well since they put out 1561818 albums, your right not all of it.

i think gay-z and wu tang music is ass. whats ur point?

No point. Just my 2 cents

 

[stealthbomber]

well if yall tryna get real deep the majors are responsible for all of it. major labels are the money hungry sniveling muthafuckas who ruined our culture for the benefit of their wallets. they put lil jon on, they continue to let wack rappers into a game thats meant for only the best of the best.

charlagmange said it best, 90s hip hop was like the nba, technically sound and professional. since 03-04 its become and 1, niggas off the streets get a chance to do something that a practiced lyricist should be doing, some are good while most are pretty bad.

 

[Stew]

well if yall tryna get real deep the majors are responsible for all of it. major labels are the money hungry sniveling muthafuckas who ruined our culture for the benefit of their wallets. they put lil jon on, they continue to let wack rappers into a game thats meant for only the best of the best.

charlagmange said it best, 90s hip hop was like the nba, technically sound and professional. since 03-04 its become and 1, niggas off the streets get a chance to do something that a practiced lyricist should be doing, some are good while most are pretty bad.

Lets not forget about these fans who are buying and participating in the faggotry going on.

 

[stealthbomber]

Lets not forget about these fans who are buying and participating in the faggotry going on.

lol well damn its everybodys fault. the artists created it, the majors pushed it, and we (hip hop fans as a whole) bought it.

 

[skpjr78]

Well since they put out 1561818 albums, your right not all of it.

thats the point hater. master p had the freedom to put out as many records as he wanted. p said he could drop a record when ever he wanted and put as many tracks on it as he pleased. he didnt need jimmy iovines blessing. can diddy, 50, nas or any of these other commercialized ass niggas say that? i think not.

if niggas wouldnt spend so much time hating maybe they could learn from each other instead of trying to tear each other down. instead of learning from business men percy miller niggas is so full of envy they would rather tear him down, settle for 10-15 points and let whites/jews who couldnt rap a dr. seus book get 85%-90% of the money. crab ass niggas. smh at niggas crabbing on mlk day

 

[And_So_It_Burns]

damn homie who the fuck are you to take shots at no limit and cash money. master p built a company like no other in the history of the rap game before or since. p had complete control and ownership of no limit. when everyone else has happy to get a production deal with a major and taking upfront cash p took the longterm view, turned down upfront bonuses, and had 100% control of no limit records. while niggas like puff was washing andre harrell's car and happy to be arista/clive davis hip hop nigga child p stood on his own and pocketed every dime that no limit ever made. he had a pure distribution deal and no white man touched a dime of master p's money.

i cant understand these fake ass east coast hip hop purist ass niggas who talk shit about cash money records and ride gay-z and diddy's dick like these corny ass comericialized ass niggas didnt spend a decade plus rapping about cars hoes and clothes. fucking hatin ass hypocrites. smh

U mad?

Master P gave a lane for wack ass artist to make noise and started the general decline of hip hop.

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

2004, right? That was the last year that The East Coast made noise. That was right after Jay retired and everyone tried to get the King of NY, back when it mattered.

Nas

Ghostface

Fab

Jada

Cam Ron

Jim Jones

Cormega

Banks

50

Ma$e

Ja Rule (lol)

all them dudes battled it out for the crown, 50 took advantage of it and divided NY Hip Hop, and the South completely taken over in Summer 2005 with Jeezy.

Also don't forget how Fat Joe/Terror Squad had everybody in the summer of '04 goin crzy wit Lean Back

 

[Stew]

thats the point hater. master p had the freedom to put out as many records as he wanted. p said he could drop a record when ever he wanted and put as many tracks on it as he pleased. he didnt need jimmy iovines blessing. can diddy, 50, nas or any of these other commercialized ass niggas say that? i think not.

if niggas wouldnt spend so much time hating maybe they could learn from each other instead of trying to tear each other down. instead of learning from business men percy miller niggas is so full of envy they would rather tear him down, settle for 10-15 points and let whites/jews who couldnt rap a dr. seus book get 85%-90% of the money. crab ass niggas. smh at niggas crabbing on mlk day

I hate the Cowboys and Yankees not No Limit. There music was simply not appealing to me.

 

[Wild Self]

Also don't forget how Fat Joe/Terror Squad had everybody in the summer of '04 goin crzy wit Lean Back

That too. Those were the times when that transitional phase made dudes act outta pocket.

 

[skpjr78]

U mad?

Master P gave a lane for wack ass artist to make noise and started the general decline of hip hop.

the whole puff daddy/gay-z jiggy era killed hip-hop. they made it safe for commercial ass niggas to feel free to say nothing. they purposely made corporate white ppl approved music and were paid handsomely to the ssafe negroes. after seeing the firestorm that pac caused and how gimmickyand superficial these commercial jiggy niggas like gay-z and puff was corporations lined to pay them niggas to sell out. all them corny ass jiggy niggas rapped about was clubs, clothes, hoes, and champagne. after that any cultural relevence in hip hop was as dead as pac.

 

[skpjr78]

I hate the Cowboys and Yankees not No Limit. There music was simply not appealing to me.

i hate the patriots, celtics, and bad boy records. big was the only relevent artist puff ever had. the rest of them niggas was commericialized, corny, white ppl approved bullshit. the lox was the only other decent group but they had to start a street petition to leave that bullshit factory. gay-z and his camp wasnt much better

 

[Wild Self]

the whole puff daddy/gay-z jiggy era killed hip-hop. they made it safe for commercial ass niggas to feel free to say nothing. they purposely made corporate white ppl approved music and were paid handsomely to the ssafe negroes. after seeing the firestorm that pac caused and how gimmickyand superficial these commercial jiggy niggas like gay-z and puff was corporations lined to pay them niggas to sell out. all them corny ass jiggy niggas rapped about was clubs, clothes, hoes, and champagne. after that any cultural relevence in hip hop was as dead as pac.

Trust me, there was a lot of gangsta shit going on back then as well. DMX was making millions while barking like a dog n making tracks that make today's trap rappers look soft. I said before that Kanye basically opened the floodgates for homo friendly behavior in this rap shit. His first 2 albums are classic, though.

 

[skpjr78]

we went from this....
[video=youtube;CWaBPvslYD8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWaBPvslYD8[/video]

to this...
[video=youtube;TxUoySP9zqg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxUoySP9zqg[/video]

to this......
[video=youtube;dKSJN3WWR3E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKSJN3WWR3E[/video]

all in 3 short years. still not sure who killed the game??????

 

[Niggas back]

skpjr78, u seem mad as fuck

 

[skpjr78]

skpjr78, u seem mad as fuck

not mad just allergic to bullshittin ass niggas. besides somebodys gotta tell the truth. if every1 went along with this hypocritical 1 sided bullshit the kids wouldnt know whats really going on & would be just as fucked up as these following ass niggas out here. truth matters & most niggas dont like it *shrugs shoulders and walks off the stage giving even less of a fuck*

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Sean Combs 'jiggy era' was responsible..skpjr78 you're not the only one who thinks this.

 

['nino'jacob]

not mad just allergic to bullshittin ass niggas. besides somebodys gotta tell the truth. if every1 went along with this hypocritical 1 sided bullshit the kids wouldnt know whats really going on & would be just as fucked up as these following ass niggas out here. truth matters & most niggas dont like it *shrugs shoulders and walks off the stage giving even less of a fuck*

Pac had his own gimmicks.

you just seem like a miserable lame who can't enjoy anything without a pro-black message.

 

[skpjr78]

[QUOTE='nino'jacob;4084467]Pac had his own gimmicks.

you just seem like a miserable lame who can't enjoy anything without a pro-black message.[/QUOTE]

you wanna talk about gimmicks and miserable lames how about this for a gimmick.

[video=youtube;tOrvbs6EGJI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOrvbs6EGJI[/video]
^^^Real Shit

[video=youtube;dw-ldo8sTkc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw-ldo8sTkc[/video]
^^^Gimmick Shit

you wanna talk about miserable lames? this bullshit takes the fucking cake. then niggas will dick ride this fake shit and have the nerve to talk down on rappers who be on real sshit. smh @ fake ass commercial dick ridin ass niggas who blame every1 but themselves for killing the game.

 

[blackrain]

well yeah obviously but did they lead us in the right direction. There was a huge void after Pac and B.I died people looked up to them for guidence. The reason why I ask this is because some people say No Limit/Cash Money etc would have never started if Pac and Big were alive

The southern region on it's own is too damn big to say that if Pac/Big were alive they would have never started...especially given that both Pac and Big openly fucked with southern music and southern rappers...