Are blacks too inclusive?

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I don't think black people are any more or less inclusive than anyone else.

Muhannad;7700831 said:
'We' let anyone claim black. We the only people that accept halfbreeds if you look at it. A halfbreed can grow up with only his 'white' side, look like Blake Griffin, but will still be seen as a black by these whites. They even refer to theirn own flesh as "black" eventhough technically they are mixed and not black.

Obama is cool but if we look at the facts, he grew up with his white mom, her Asian man and her white family. Nothing Kenyan about this dude. He never had a black woman prior to Michelle. If you look at his old pics you never see him with blacks. Michelle was the first black person he associated with, according to people who knew him growing up. He still got that 'black pass', just off the strength of him being half Kenyan and having a black wife. No other race would accept him as easily as blacks did...

Not trying to be an a*shole about this but accepting halfbreeds leaves you open to infiltration. That's why nobody does it, but the race that lacks racial selfworth.

Compare this racial stratification sh*t to any organization that aims to be and stay successful. What component do they all have? Exclusivity. Not anybody can join them and you gotta earn your keeps. You gotta show 'em that you'll be an asset to that organization. You'll get vetted, background checks and all. Just wanna be down and being respectful ain't enough. Whether it's fraternities, criminal outfits, jobs,

No offense but f*ck that onedrop rule. Slavery been done and in my country the racial stratification was different anyway. Just cuz you have some black ancestry or share some of the same characteristics with us, don't make you one of us. F*ck these turncoats that wanna claim black when it's convenient for 'em.

Have you read Dreams From My Father?

 
S2J;7700573 said:
Wholeheartedly agree. Great observation.

Small scale example i always find amusing is the 'white guy dancing in the club'. That mfer becomes a sensation.

Let yo ass be the ONLY black person in a white spot. Them white boys look at you like 'why are you here'

NAW, LET YOU BE IN THAT SITUATION AND "WHOOP THERE IT IS, OR BABY GOT BACK COMES ON"... ALLLLLL OF THEM ARE GONE TURN TO YOU TO SEE WHAT MOVE YOU GONE BUST...
 
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?
 
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

It starts at home, I wanna switch lanes for a sec...you can see how these universities are getting the top players, I once heard that the top players were attending the HBCU schools, what happened?? why isn't the number one recruit in the nation trying to break his neck to go to these HBCU schools instead of the white institutions. The player doesn't even have 1 HBCU school on his list to go and visit but the crazy part about this is, his/her parents and grandparents etc all attended and grew up on HBCU?

And the sad part about when I see the dude press conference or coverage on what school he or she will pick his parents are skinning and grinning about his pick..I mean why not send our kids to the black schools...that's what making these networks and institutions rich..
 
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Knock_Twice;7703161 said:
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

It starts at home, I wanna switch lanes for a sec...you can see how these universities are getting the top players, I once was heard that the top players were attending the HBCU schools, what happened?? why isn't the number one recruit in the nation trying to break his neck to go to these HBCU schools instead of the white institutions. The player doesn't even have 1 HBCU school on his list to go and visit but the crazy part about this is, is parents and grandparents etc all attended and grew up on HBCU?

And the sad part about when I see the dude press conference or coverage on what school he or she will pick his parents are skinning and grinning about his pick..I mean why not send our kids to the black schools...that's what making these networks and institutions rich..

They aint listening family.

 
Kwan Dai;7703251 said:
Knock_Twice;7703161 said:
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

It starts at home, I wanna switch lanes for a sec...you can see how these universities are getting the top players, I once was heard that the top players were attending the HBCU schools, what happened?? why isn't the number one recruit in the nation trying to break his neck to go to these HBCU schools instead of the white institutions. The player doesn't even have 1 HBCU school on his list to go and visit but the crazy part about this is, is parents and grandparents etc all attended and grew up on HBCU?

And the sad part about when I see the dude press conference or coverage on what school he or she will pick his parents are skinning and grinning about his pick..I mean why not send our kids to the black schools...that's what making these networks and institutions rich..

They aint listening family.

It's sad folk

and the crazy part about this whole system, when that player is through with his 4 years, he's either picking up your trash from your driveway or policing your neighborhood, or either he or his parents asking you to hook him up with some type of position at your company/job..That school that he went to for 4 years don't/can't get him a nice job in Corporate America all those fans 60k-100k that cheered for him on Saturday can't/wont throw him a bone..so why even waste your time supporting that institution when at the end of the day you're most likely won't have shit to show but to say you went to said school..

I don't get it, but the parents (black) ones that come/and went to these HBCUs schools are who I blame..every black parent wanna bank on their kid making it to the NBA/NFL..
 
Knock_Twice;7703271 said:
Kwan Dai;7703251 said:
Knock_Twice;7703161 said:
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

It starts at home, I wanna switch lanes for a sec...you can see how these universities are getting the top players, I once was heard that the top players were attending the HBCU schools, what happened?? why isn't the number one recruit in the nation trying to break his neck to go to these HBCU schools instead of the white institutions. The player doesn't even have 1 HBCU school on his list to go and visit but the crazy part about this is, is parents and grandparents etc all attended and grew up on HBCU?

And the sad part about when I see the dude press conference or coverage on what school he or she will pick his parents are skinning and grinning about his pick..I mean why not send our kids to the black schools...that's what making these networks and institutions rich..

They aint listening family.

It's sad folk

and the crazy part about this whole system, when that player is through with his 4 years, he's either picking up your trash from your driveway or policing your neighborhood, or either he or his parents asking you to hook him up with some type of position at your company/job..That school that he went to for 4 years don't/can't get him a nice job in Corporate America all those fans 60k-100k that cheered for him on Saturday can't/wont throw him a bone..so why even waste your time supporting that institution when at the end of the day you're most likely won't have shit to show but to say you went to said school..

I don't get it, but the parents (black) ones that come/and went to these HBCUs schools are who I blame..every black parent wanna bank on their kid making it to the NBA/NFL..

I live in the A, so I know this all to well.

The other factor here is, alot of these kids end being raised or heavily influenced by White Men via coaching.

 
We should never stop being inclusive, but we should def put ourselves first.

We are too inclusive / supportive of other races, all while not showing our own the same love.
 
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

Blacks ain't that forgiving towards eachother though. That forgiveness is only reserved for outsiders. That forgiveness you're talking about is just fear and cowardice.

That 'acceptance' is blacks putting everybody else before themselves cuz deep down they don't like to be black. They don't accept themselves evidenced by the fact they like non-black features and such more than their own. Who get more love in the black community? Nappy headed, darkskinned blacks or mixed breeds? Nuff said...

Blacks run away from they blackness while trying to associate themselves with anyone else.

 
Muhannad;7703491 said:
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

Blacks ain't that forgiving towards eachother though. That forgiveness is only reserved for outsiders. That forgiveness you're talking about is just fear and cowardice.

That 'acceptance' is blacks putting everybody else before themselves cuz deep down they don't like to be black. They don't accept themselves evidenced by the fact they like non-black features and such more than their own. Who get more love in the black community? Nappy headed, darkskinned blacks or mixed breeds? Nuff said...

Blacks run away from they blackness while trying to associate themselves with anyone else.

You're partially agreeing with me. I already said that we aren't extending the same courtesies inward. I disagree that Black forgiveness and acceptance is fear and cowardice. I've never seen anyone forgive anyone out of fear. That doesn't really even make sense. If you fear someone, you'd be more incline not to forgive or forget the shit they've done to you. And I don't really see how accepting anyone is cowardice. It ain't like people of other races, make us accept them.

 
People said Matt was a good poster on here for years just to try to look like they were smarter than they really were soooo....
 
Will Munny;7703867 said:
People said Matt was a good poster on here for years just to try to look like they were smarter than they really were soooo....

If this isnt the realest statement ever...smh And it took a white guy to say it. Smmfh

If i had a dollar for every 'Yo Matt is hilarious/funny/a troll/a good poster'. Fukin faggots.

 
Muhannad;7703491 said:
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

Blacks ain't that forgiving towards eachother though. That forgiveness is only reserved for outsiders. That forgiveness you're talking about is just fear and cowardice.

That 'acceptance' is blacks putting everybody else before themselves cuz deep down they don't like to be black. They don't accept themselves evidenced by the fact they like non-black features and such more than their own. Who get more love in the black community? Nappy headed, darkskinned blacks or mixed breeds? Nuff said...

Blacks run away from they blackness while trying to associate themselves with anyone else.

Where are you getting this stuff?
 
S2J;7703880 said:
Will Munny;7703867 said:
People said Matt was a good poster on here for years just to try to look like they were smarter than they really were soooo....

Hi Ki

If this isnt the realest statement ever...smh And it took a white guy to say it. Smmfh

If i had a dollar for every 'Yo Matt is hilarious/funny/a troll/a good poster'. Fukin faggots.

Buut hiw do we apply this scenario to reality? I dint c him sayin the shit he said, among black groups in reality...and if u do i need to know where ur from

thats non transferable Internet shit, like most shit on this site

And on top of that, y do we ...er....yall assume everyone who cosigned him, hell everyone on this site period, is black? Cause i aint seein it

 
The Lonious Monk;7703636 said:
Muhannad;7703491 said:
The Lonious Monk;7703132 said:
R0mp;7703081 said:
As said before, we are an accepting and forgiving bunch, to a fault. Perhaps this is a result of the exclusion we've faced over the years--whatever the reason may be, everyone isn't your friend nor should they be.

I don't know. I disagree with this. I think our acceptance and forgiveness is a strength. The people we accept and forgive usually aren't the ones that fuck us over. Our problem is less with how we treat outsiders and more with how we treat our own. Accepting and/or forgiving people who are worthy of that is fine, but we are nearly that understanding when it comes out our own people. That's the problem. Nothing wrong with supporting the Asian store in the hood, but how come when a black person tries to get something similar off the ground and running, they can't get any support?

Blacks ain't that forgiving towards eachother though. That forgiveness is only reserved for outsiders. That forgiveness you're talking about is just fear and cowardice.

That 'acceptance' is blacks putting everybody else before themselves cuz deep down they don't like to be black. They don't accept themselves evidenced by the fact they like non-black features and such more than their own. Who get more love in the black community? Nappy headed, darkskinned blacks or mixed breeds? Nuff said...

Blacks run away from they blackness while trying to associate themselves with anyone else.

You're partially agreeing with me. I already said that we aren't extending the same courtesies inward. I disagree that Black forgiveness and acceptance is fear and cowardice. I've never seen anyone forgive anyone out of fear. That doesn't really even make sense. If you fear someone, you'd be more incline not to forgive or forget the shit they've done to you. And I don't really see how accepting anyone is cowardice. It ain't like people of other races, make us accept them.

I labeled it fear and cowardice because these blacks that I'm referring to are scared to retaliate when an outsider does them wrong. It's easier to act like you are 'taking the highroad' than to get off your behind and retaliate. Especially when your foe is stronger/ better organized/ bigger etc.

The cowardice part was for the forgiveness, not acceptance. That black acceptance was more a lack of selflove/ low racial self esteem than anything else IMO.
 
Ain't Matt that whiteboy that posted in Cheap Seats? I ain't really see him post too much in other rooms. Was he taken seriously? Thought he was Bilfiger status...
 
Muhannad;7703979 said:
I labeled it fear and cowardice because these blacks that I'm referring to are scared to retaliate when an outsider does them wrong. It's easier to act like you are 'taking the highroad' than to get off your behind and retaliate. Especially when your foe is stronger/ better organized/ bigger etc.

The cowardice part was for the forgiveness, not acceptance. That black acceptance was more a lack of selflove/ low racial self esteem than anything else IMO.

Got ya. I can cosign that to a degree. I still think you're being a little go general in assessments you're making though.
 

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