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JokerzWyld;3333441 said:He did kind of blackball himself. He threatened to leak one of Dre's songs from Detox via twitter when Jimmy Iovine wouldn't release his album, which is an in-house/interscope feud. Dr. Dre is cool with Game again which kind of shows he picked sides between Game & 50. Em is doing tracks with Wayne who dissed and was dissed by 50 Cent. Em also signed Slaughterhouse who's member and creator Joe Budden once beefed with 50 Cent.
That's just the in-house interscope rift that can possibly impede 50 Cent. His beef with rappers like Jay-Z (who Em has also worked with recently), The Lox, Nas(who's worked with Mobb Deep), Dipset (who's members have worked with Lloyd Banks), Lil Kim, AZ, Talib Kwli, Rick Ross, Rap-a-lot, and once again Lil Wayne (who has two of the most popular rappers in the game on his label) . 50 is going to need some big named features for his next album because that's how interscope's formula works, just look at Eminem who worked with Wayne & Rihanna on Recovery. Look at Game's last album, it was loaded with features. Who would feature on a 50 Cent album besides G-Unit and some R&B chicks? I remember reading that he was open to work with Kanye West but why would/should Kanye agree to do that with 50's serpentine reputation?
Who knows maybe 50 can prove us all wrong, but the fact is that everybody falls off eventually. 50 Cent had a good run and milked it for everything he could at that time.
tompetrez3;3333528 said:fuck jay z and fuck every nigga thats co signing this bullshit line. jay z can fuck around and throw pussy sublims all he want. we all know what happened 10 years ago when we thought this other queens rapper was down and out and jay z decided to get bold and diss him. niggas are actually in here co signing what females do in nail shops.LMAO fuck yall. 50 is a disrespectful nigga just like game. he got a point a prove and a chip on his shoulder. Jay Z dont want it with 50. this aint baby money wayne. 50 paper just as long as Jay Z. 50 like bush he dont mind spending money in a war. wins or losses look at his smear campaigns in war. this nigga can find niggas kindergarten teachers and shit. this nigga will spend tens of thousands to make his enemies look like shit. Jay Z dont want to hear about Beyonce sony years from the mouth of 50. you seen how Camron flipped the shit back on the coward. Jay Z aint ready to see/hear LYDELL right now talking about his wife. smh @ jay z thinking he the first that got that slut preggos. 50 is gloves off with this beef shit like game. Jay Z cant handle that aggression. he cant even handle wayne threating to kidnap his bitch. first it was baby money now the nigga is silent. rihanna supposed to be his bitch and kanye big sister but kanye up there suckin CB dick coppin pleas holding gaga hand hopin that no niggas come check on some bullshit. MTV played his sissy ass by havin wiz and amber together and unapologetic about it. ok so he dissed 50. NOW WHAT? is he ready to defend himself or is he too cool to reply
oh yeah and another thing. if jay z is so above all these "irrelevant" niggas why do he feel a need to diss them or mention them in the first place? yall talk all that he's a boss shit. why in the fuck would a boss worth half a billion even worry about baby money or 50 antics. the reason is because he is an insecure faggot with tons of issues.
boss jay;3333596 said:He also dissed Wayne for the How 2 Love trash..
"Tattoos in my face, rag in my pocket, Im just looking for love (all his public relationships), I know somebody got it..
boss jay;3333642 said:already...I think alot of niggaz sleep on Jigga's entrees and meta4s
sionb55;3333678 said:Lets dooooo it lololol !!!!
So to sum up what u wrote - basically 50 Cent fell off b/c he beefed with niggas he didnt NEED to use to sell well, made a 100 million dollars, he can't get a release date and in the past 2 years hasn't done anything productive ? alright champ LOLOL.
First off - Joe, Jada, Buck, Shyne, Cam'ron, Nas & Game haven't been productive AT ALL since their feud (maybe Game but the rest are laughable), show me one album from those 2 AFTER the beef that went on to show at least moderate success or charted well dont worry Ill wait. So making the assertion that 50 Cent (if he hadnt beefed with them) would be further today than he is if he used their help is useless. Eminem has never had to go outside the Shady camp & look at his success - same formula with Fif and he too has done extremely well everytime.
He made a 100 million dollars & doesnt control it ? Warren Buffett owns 8.8 billion dollars of Wells Fargo which translates into about 8 or 9% of the best bank in the world but he doesnt control it either I guess that makes them losers then lolol cuz owning 10% of a 4 billion dollar business now owned by a great american company is a loss. Matter of fact Buffett also owns 10% of the company that bought Vitamin Water/Glaceau (Coca Cola).
He can't get a release date u say ?
Wats this then -
"Initially, 50 Cent announced that the release of the album would be delayed until 2012 due to disagreements with Interscope Records: In a series of tweets, 50 Cent explained that Interscope Records were disputing with him over how the album should be released, and claimed he would delay the album's release until the dispute was resolved.[1] However, 50 Cent later announced that the album would be in fact be released in November 2011: currently, he plans to release the album in conjunction with his headphone line Sleek by 50.[11]" - this is from wikipedia btw
^^^^
but somehow Fif's not in control of his situation or being an artist ? LOLOL Jay-Z can't diss anyone anymore b/c he has corporate sponsors & a diff't demographic who will pull out hence why he does subliminals & cant battle wayne. Fif has all that & didnt even need to compromise his artistic integrity. A feet only accomplished by Ice Cube till now. I dont even think 50 Cent is signed to Interscope anymore as a managed artist I think he just has this last album to fulfill with them and hes a free agent OR if he wanted to he could prolly buy himself out like Jay did w/ blueprint 3 & def jam.
this was a much better argument I like how u operate....
@ first paragraph.... him & dre are cool, and if u remember Snoop & Bishop Lamont threatened something similar too. Either way it wasnt for the release of his album he was trying to get interscope back behind his project 100% - its a business too at the end of the day & they have many projects they want to put out as well. Em signing Slaughterhouse doesnt hurt Fif anyways, they also did interviews for thisis50.com (joe budden got several matter of fact), if ur using Joey to say that he couldve helped Fif - buddens hasnt put out anything since then that has generated the commercial interest or sales like that that couldve been helpful to Fif. Also Dre is 50 Cent's boss Fif doesnt tell him what to do or who to work with. Game went at 50 Cent b/c he wanted HIS position & felt that the only way he could get that was by goin at him. Dre wanted to use Fif's success to propel game to great stardom & possibly carry Detox but unfortunately that relationship didnt work out. Game later wanted out of the co-venture he had with G-Unit & Aftermath so he went to Geffen.
@ 2nd paragraph...... him & Jay are cool tho, they just send shots at each other every now and then, Lox & Fif are cool (in fact they also have an interview on thisis50.com w/ jack thriller & styles is shouting out fif), Nas hasnt done anything in a long time but besides that Mobb Deep go waaay back with Nas and u gotta understand the Infamous didnt sell over 10 million twice so they would need a co-sign from Nas or a big artist to keep their names hot. Dipset, Lil Kim, Talib & Wayne are cool wit Fif too. 50 Cent doesnt need those cats in order to create the hype around his album to sell well he can do that on his own - whether its thru beefing, whether its thru selling a movie or saying something on Twitter he doesnt have to do that in order to sell well or make money. He's self sufficient in that area - thats rare. Michael Jackson (& no im not saying theyre the same), James Brown, Nirvana, The Cure, and others never needed to go outside their camp to sell well.
I respect what ur saying but I dont think the interscope engine works like that for everybody tho, Game is diff't cuz hes not that nigga anymore & isnt self sufficient to where he can create that type of hype around himself to sell an album (one week its fuck u tonya the next week its i love u tonya) and he never was thats why in every interview he name drops in hopes that the interviewer or some1 will ask that artist about him & theyll mention him and keep his star shining. Eminem when u take a closer look only had 1 rap feature on his album & that was Lil Wayne.... Rihanna is an RnB singer & the only reason why he used her for the record is cuz she could sell the theme of the record they made far better than anyone else b/c she was a domestic abuse victim after the Chris Brown shit. Shady & Aftermath artists never really went outside the camp & thats just their thing. Him & Kanye never had no beef & as far as serpentine look no further than Yeezy's boss.
I'll agree with the last sentence, everyone's star power does wane at some point but others find ways to reinvent themselves & continue to thrive. To add on to what u said I think these days everybody want an entertainer to be in their face 24/7 & as soon as they decide to chill we call them "irrelevant". The only reason why I think 50 Cent aint come with an album yet or put the energy into his music this year is b/c of all the movies he did this year. That fool got a 200 million dollar deal for 20 films.... & this year he filmed 5 movies this year alone. Its hard to balance that with studio time. But yeah well see what happens when this 5th album comes out.
FoolTime;3333652 said:what song that is tho
usmarin3;3332552 said:Negro the song isn't just about murder it's about that crab in the barrel mentality too. Fuck, did you even listen to the lyrics.
sionb55;3333678 said:this was a much better argument I like how u operate....
@ first paragraph.... him & dre are cool, and if u remember Snoop & Bishop Lamont threatened something similar too. Either way it wasnt for the release of his album he was trying to get interscope back behind his project 100% - its a business too at the end of the day & they have many projects they want to put out as well. Em signing Slaughterhouse doesnt hurt Fif anyways, they also did interviews for thisis50.com (joe budden got several matter of fact), if ur using Joey to say that he couldve helped Fif - buddens hasnt put out anything since then that has generated the commercial interest or sales like that that couldve been helpful to Fif. Also Dre is 50 Cent's boss Fif doesnt tell him what to do or who to work with. Game went at 50 Cent b/c he wanted HIS position & felt that the only way he could get that was by goin at him. Dre wanted to use Fif's success to propel game to great stardom & possibly carry Detox but unfortunately that relationship didnt work out. Game later wanted out of the co-venture he had with G-Unit & Aftermath so he went to Geffen.
@ 2nd paragraph...... nah him & Jay are cool tho, they just send shots at each other every now and then, Lox & Fif are cool (in fact they also have an interview on thisis50.com w/ jack thriller & styles is shouting out fif), Nas hasnt done anything in a long time but besides that Mobb Deep go waaay back with Nas and u gotta understand the Infamous didnt sell over 10 million twice so they would need a co-sign from Nas or a big artist to keep their names hot. Dipset, Lil Kim, Talib & Wayne are cool wit Fif too. 50 Cent doesnt need those cats in order to create the hype around his album to sell well he can do that on his own - whether its thru beefing, whether its thru selling a movie or saying something on Twitter he doesnt have to do that in order to sell well or make money. He's self sufficient in that area - thats rare. Michael Jackson (& no im not saying theyre the same), James Brown, Nirvana, The Cure, and others never needed to go outside their camp to sell well. When I think of blackballed I think of Dame Dash or Jerry Heller. Them dudes SHITTED on execs and EVERYBODY even the nobodies & were just unscrupulous (this goes for Heller). Notice how no one helped Dame out ? Niggas still doing songs with Fif and investors gave that nigga a bucket of money to go invest in artists like Shawty Lo's record label. Thats some serious pull when u can be ahem "blackballed" and still get a some hedge fund investors who prolly dont even listen to hiphop to give u 9 figure money to invest in a nigga theyve prolly never heard of from Atlanta.
I respect what ur saying but I dont think the interscope engine works like that for everybody tho, Game is diff't cuz hes not that nigga anymore & isnt self sufficient to where he can create that type of hype around himself to sell an album (one week its fuck u tonya the next week its i love u tonya) and he never was thats why in every interview he name drops in hopes that the interviewer or some1 will ask that artist about him & theyll mention him and keep his star shining. Eminem when u take a closer look only had 1 rap feature on his album & that was Lil Wayne.... Rihanna is an RnB singer & the only reason why he used her for the record is cuz she could sell the theme of the record they made far better than anyone else b/c she was a domestic abuse victim after the Chris Brown shit. Shady & Aftermath artists never really went outside the camp & thats just their thing. Him & Kanye never had no beef & as far as serpentine look no further than Yeezy's boss.
I'll agree with the last sentence, everyone's star power does wane at some point but others find ways to reinvent themselves & continue to thrive. To add on to what u said I think these days everybody want an entertainer to be in their face 24/7 & as soon as they decide to chill we call them "irrelevant". The only reason why I think 50 Cent aint come with an album yet or put the energy into his music this year is b/c of all the movies he did this year. That fool got a 200 million dollar deal for 20 films.... & this year he filmed 5 movies this year alone. Its hard to balance that with studio time. But yeah well see what happens when this 5th album comes out.
H-Rap 180;3332082 said:Great drop from a quality poster.
I agree 100% with those lyrical gems, it's not the first time a respected emcee has called out 50-cent for his "Crab" mentality and divisive behaviors.
Most recently Diddy called him a "hating ass CRAB", and Fabolous shared similar setiments.
...the line is almost a double-entrende because "crab" is also used as a disrespectful word for Crips (Cuzz).
sionb55;3333816 said:Unfortunately you missed the point I made - 50 Cent doesnt need those artists to make a hit. Ross needs it b/c his lyrics are weak so he relies on a great beat & a feature to carry his records (look at all his major records these past few years his biggest records have features on them), DJ Khaled has NEVER sold well & is irrelevant to this discussion b/c he is not a rapper hes a DJ and he relies on Wayne & Drake to carry him. Jay-Z is Jay-Z so he can as he pleases b/c no one's his boss. The rest of them niggas u named he simply dont need them to make a hit & his past albums prove that. HFM2 sold well on the independent tip, he still outsold Rick Ross AND Meek Millz so I dont know where u getting at & if we use ur logic if Ross is soooo hot rite now explain why he along with 5 not just 1 but FIVE features who are some of the hottest talent out now couldn't sell more than 50k in their first week versus Lloyd Banks who is just one man and didnt even have 50 Cent on his album.
50 Cent is all over Forbes, still has 5 million followers on Twitter, classic albums, movies, the sales, the merchandise u name it. If he was sooo irrelevant then legendary actors like Sharon Stone, Val Kilmer, Al Pacino, Robert Dinero & them wouldnt be tryna make movies with him. Face it 50 Cent never went anywhere and he's done extremely well this year & last year despite not even putting an album out. He may be under Interscope but unlike the niggas u named off he doesn't 101 features on his album to sell or keep his name hot. U really think its a good investment if a nigga like Ross or Wayne needs aaalll them niggas to keep them hot ? What happens when they decide to sit down & enjoy the money and have to come back to music ? Wayne will thrive cuz he speaks to the new generation but Ross ? LOLOLOL. T
Try again fam I got u beat LOLOL. If the best thing u can come up with is that niggas need to collab then u need to log off, think about what you're gonna type & regurgitate that. It's not 2003 but its not the end of his career either. I dont understand how u say a nigga with a 200 million dollar movie deal is finished. When hes done making his movies hell poor his energy into music & drop a dope album.
c.b.b.;3333952 said:When was this? It's seems as if 50 has calmed down with the hating now that he realized that it just alienated him
tompetrez3;3333528 said:fuck jay z and fuck every nigga thats co signing this bullshit line. jay z can fuck around and throw pussy sublims all he want. we all know what happened 10 years ago when we thought this other queens rapper was down and out and jay z decided to get bold and diss him. niggas are actually in here co signing what females do in nail shops.LMAO fuck yall. 50 is a disrespectful nigga just like game. he got a point a prove and a chip on his shoulder. Jay Z dont want it with 50. this aint baby money wayne. 50 paper just as long as Jay Z. 50 like bush he dont mind spending money in a war. wins or losses look at his smear campaigns in war. this nigga can find niggas kindergarten teachers and shit. this nigga will spend tens of thousands to make his enemies look like shit. Jay Z dont want to hear about Beyonce sony years from the mouth of 50. you seen how Camron flipped the shit back on the coward. Jay Z aint ready to see/hear LYDELL right now talking about his wife. smh @ jay z thinking he the first that got that slut preggos. 50 is gloves off with this beef shit like game. Jay Z cant handle that aggression. he cant even handle wayne threating to kidnap his bitch. first it was baby money now the nigga is silent. rihanna supposed to be his bitch and kanye big sister but kanye up there suckin CB dick coppin pleas holding gaga hand hopin that no niggas come check on some bullshit. MTV played his sissy ass by havin wiz and amber together and unapologetic about it. ok so he dissed 50. NOW WHAT? is he ready to defend himself or is he too cool to reply
oh yeah and another thing. if jay z is so above all these "irrelevant" niggas why do he feel a need to diss them or mention them in the first place? yall talk all that he's a boss shit. why in the fuck would a boss worth half a billion even worry about baby money or 50 antics. the reason is because he is an insecure faggot with tons of issues.
tompetrez3;3333528 said:fuck jay z and fuck every nigga thats co signing this bullshit line. jay z can fuck around and throw pussy sublims all he want. we all know what happened 10 years ago when we thought this other queens rapper was down and out and jay z decided to get bold and diss him. niggas are actually in here co signing what females do in nail shops.LMAO fuck yall. 50 is a disrespectful nigga just like game. he got a point a prove and a chip on his shoulder. Jay Z dont want it with 50. this aint baby money wayne. 50 paper just as long as Jay Z. 50 like bush he dont mind spending money in a war. wins or losses look at his smear campaigns in war. this nigga can find niggas kindergarten teachers and shit. this nigga will spend tens of thousands to make his enemies look like shit. Jay Z dont want to hear about Beyonce sony years from the mouth of 50. you seen how Camron flipped the shit back on the coward. Jay Z aint ready to see/hear LYDELL right now talking about his wife. smh @ jay z thinking he the first that got that slut preggos. 50 is gloves off with this beef shit like game. Jay Z cant handle that aggression. he cant even handle wayne threating to kidnap his bitch. first it was baby money now the nigga is silent. rihanna supposed to be his bitch and kanye big sister but kanye up there suckin CB dick coppin pleas holding gaga hand hopin that no niggas come check on some bullshit. MTV played his sissy ass by havin wiz and amber together and unapologetic about it. ok so he dissed 50. NOW WHAT? is he ready to defend himself or is he too cool to reply
oh yeah and another thing. if jay z is so above all these "irrelevant" niggas why do he feel a need to diss them or mention them in the first place? yall talk all that he's a boss shit. why in the fuck would a boss worth half a billion even worry about baby money or 50 antics. the reason is because he is an insecure faggot with tons of issues.
