Aj Styles >>>HBK Appreciation Thread

[blu197]

When you factor charisma, mic skills, look, impact on the industry, storylines etc AJ is not even top 30 All Time, the only thing he does above average is his in ring work and even that isn't Top 10 All Time great...

I don't even consider AJ better than Punk All Time and Punk wasn't even all that to me..

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

What makes aj great in ring is the athleticism (not down playing other factors but that's his best)

What makes hbk great in ring us the storytelling which is what wwe does (again not downplaying other factors but...)

Imo the storytelling of hbk greatest matches give him the edge over aj best matches, now aj may b more technically sound than hbk but imo (n I may b reaching with this comparison but bare with me) Nas is more technically sound than Jay, but what makes Jay better is being slightly better at the overall game, I think that's how I'd put it with this.

And as u see, aj addin in the wwe storytelling and improved mic work n he's having arguably a career year

All said and done aj prolly top 5 but idk if I could unseat hbk from position 1 b just yet personally

 

[jono]

AJ needed this WWE run to show off his personality. His personality has always been hidden by all the flippy shit and the gymnastics.

In WWE hia push has been because he brought it from a character perspective. He's raising the bar.

I'll still take HBK at 39 vs Styles at 39 but Styles is awesome and I think he is climbing up the GOAT ladder. I want him to main event WM and he will be even closer to GOAT levels.

 

[Max.]

I wana see hbk in wwe ring talkn(interview like he did with seth) n aj come out n stare at each other nh..diss lines

Just for a fan moment

 

[DOPEdweebz]

This reeks of folks saying aj is better cuz he flippity flops more

And i love flips but... mane...

What's next, Kobe >>mj?

Lol HBK being MJ

 

[DOPEdweebz]

When you factor charisma, mic skills, look, impact on the industry, storylines etc AJ is not even top 30 All Time, the only thing he does above average is his in ring work and even that isn't Top 10 All Time great...

I don't even consider AJ better than Punk All Time and Punk wasn't even all that to me..

AJ Bullet Club, AJ vs Nakamura single handleedly put both in WWE RIGHT NOW. AJ being the "Sting" of TNA has arguably skyrockted ever since leaving in a shorter amount of time.

Yall need to step out the WWE bubble and recognize the wrestling bubble.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

It's cause a lot of ppl are WWE fans more than wrestling fans but I agree. His TNA run was more impressive than HBK. His feud and faction with Flair was more impressive than HBK. His in-ring ability is more impressive than HBK. He adapts really well to every industry and storyline he's been in. HBK can't do that. He's WWE only. Their style is more slow paced.

#facts n AJ is a better winner

What does that mean? Being a better winner?

Been the man longer, more championships in more places, plus when HBK was a babyface champ in 96 that was considered a failure, and he wasnt moving merchandise like that as a top guy period. Ratings werent going through the roof until guys like Austin and The Rock developed into their characters. They were megastars not HBK.

DX was his peak marketability -and even then it was more of 2 man or 3 persons group working off each other.

HBK has meant alot mostly to WWE, AJ has meant alot to pro-wrestling period.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

But AJ has never been as big as HBK either so that's not really helping your last post

 

[blu197]

When you factor charisma, mic skills, look, impact on the industry, storylines etc AJ is not even top 30 All Time, the only thing he does above average is his in ring work and even that isn't Top 10 All Time great...

I don't even consider AJ better than Punk All Time and Punk wasn't even all that to me..

AJ Bullet Club, AJ vs Nakamura single handleedly put both in WWE RIGHT NOW. AJ being the "Sting" of TNA has arguably skyrockted ever since leaving in a shorter amount of time.

Yall need to step out the WWE bubble and recognize the wrestling bubble.

The Club was Finns shit, not AJ. AJ vs Nakamura? A match nobody with a life saw when it happened in Japan and nobody will ever look up so who cares, literally ZERO impact on the industry. AJ the "Sting of TNA"? Gtfoh, Sting was the Sting of TNA.

AJ good in the ring but he's average to ass at everything else, he's not even better than RVD All Time.

 

[blu197]

It's cause a lot of ppl are WWE fans more than wrestling fans but I agree. His TNA run was more impressive than HBK. His feud and faction with Flair was more impressive than HBK. His in-ring ability is more impressive than HBK. He adapts really well to every industry and storyline he's been in. HBK can't do that. He's WWE only. Their style is more slow paced.

#facts n AJ is a better winner

What does that mean? Being a better winner?

Been the man longer, more championships in more places

You're dumb af, if AJ was "the man" for WCW in 90s (you know a company that actually drew money and was known across the globe) then just maybe you'd have a point, but he was "the man" for companies majority of the population doesn't even know exist that a mid carder from the E can be "the man" of, basically AJ was the man of irrelevance..

Those "more Titles" he won in the indies don't matter, just a fact, by your logic that makes AJ better Rock or Stone Cold, like i said a mid carder like Del Rio can be the top guy at TNA, Japan etc

 

[DOPEdweebz]

It's cause a lot of ppl are WWE fans more than wrestling fans but I agree. His TNA run was more impressive than HBK. His feud and faction with Flair was more impressive than HBK. His in-ring ability is more impressive than HBK. He adapts really well to every industry and storyline he's been in. HBK can't do that. He's WWE only. Their style is more slow paced.

#facts n AJ is a better winner

What does that mean? Being a better winner?

Been the man longer, more championships in more places

You're dumb af, if AJ was "the man" for WCW in 90s (you know a company that actually drew money and was known across the globe) then just maybe you'd have a point, but he was "the man" for companies majority of the population doesn't even know exist that a mid carder from the E can be "the man" of, basically AJ was the man of irrelevance..

Those "more Titles" he won in the indies don't matter, just a fact, by your logic that makes AJ better Rock or Stone Cold, like i said a mid carder like Del Rio can be the top guy at TNA, Japan etc

I never mentioned WCW or WWE Velocity, you dumb AF and in your feelings for mention the former, and hes the face that runs the place sooo... So much for being irrelevant!

 

[DOPEdweebz]

But AJ has never been as big as HBK either so that's not really helping your last post

What about the other 10 posts?

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Lol an hbk only meaning a lot to wwe, he's probably the reason aj is a wrestler bruh. I know u don't like wwe but ur making this comparison more ridiculous than it should b

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Lol an hbk only meaning a lot to wwe, he's probably the reason aj is a wrestler bruh. I know u don't like wwe but ur making this comparison more ridiculous than it should b

I love WWE Im a Bret Hart fan. You see your assumption is wrong @Peezy_Jenkins

 

[BangEm_Bart]

I disagree with HBK birthing AJ Styles. Two completely different styles of wrestling but there were wrestlers that birthed HBK.

I also disagree with one point in blu's statement because AJ was way too young to carry an impact on WCW at that time plus HBK didn't become popular til he broke free from Marty Jannety. The rest is strictly opinions which entirely is debatable.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I can argue for most of their singles career Bret overshadowed HBK ijs

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I disagree with HBK birthing AJ Styles. To completely different styles of wrestling but there were wrestlers that birthed HBK.

I also disagree with one point in blu's statement because AJ was way too young to carry an impact on WCW at that time plus HBK didn't become popular til he broke free from Marty Jannety. The rest is strictly opinions which entirely debatable.

AJ styles who was Air Styles and member of Air Raid with Air Paris was only on Nitro for a month before that shit went down. Being in ROH and TNA at the same time is what really birthed AJ Styels career

 

[DOPEdweebz]

When you factor charisma, mic skills, look, impact on the industry, storylines etc AJ is not even top 30 All Time, the only thing he does above average is his in ring work and even that isn't Top 10 All Time great...

I don't even consider AJ better than Punk All Time and Punk wasn't even all that to me..

AJ Bullet Club, AJ vs Nakamura single handleedly put both in WWE RIGHT NOW. AJ being the "Sting" of TNA has arguably skyrockted ever since leaving in a shorter amount of time.

Yall need to step out the WWE bubble and recognize the wrestling bubble.

The Club was Finns shit, not AJ. AJ vs Nakamura? A match nobody with a life saw when it happened in Japan and nobody will ever look up so who cares, literally ZERO impact on the industry. AJ the "Sting of TNA"? Gtfoh, Sting was the Sting of TNA.

AJ good in the ring but he's average to ass at everything else, he's not even better than RVD All Time.

Your first line proves your a WWE zombie bro. He was never Finn with the Bullet Club, he was Prince Devitt, two you can argue Bullet Club was bigger with AJ Styles in it than when Prince Devitt was in it. I dont think you even watched that.

Yes AJ was the young star building the biggest competitor to WWE/F in wrestling aka Sting, while Jarrett was the older vet Flair. An already made15 -20 year older Sting isnt the same as a younger beach blonde way more athletic who everyone almost singularly attached to the brand.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

I think if u asked aj he'd prolly say hbk was an inspiration.

I think I'll just leave this thread alone tho cuz it's starting to come off as down playing hbk to boost aj which is highly unnecessary

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Btw you say nobody saw AJ vs Nakamura (which shows what kind of WWE mark you are), I bet you the dude who helped sign Nakamura and AJ Styles saw that